Re: [mailop] How to find 'low flying' spamers? (Re: outlook.com blocking reason: S3150 "network is on our block list")

2018-10-05 Thread Alessandro Vesely
On Wed 03/Oct/2018 21:38:24 +0200 Brandon Long via mailop wrote: > On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 2:17 AM Alessandro Vesely wrote: >> On Mon 01/Oct/2018 11:23:15 +0200 Benoit Panizzon wrote: >>> >>> * Keep cache history from which IP an SMTP Authentication occurred. >> >> >> I'm curious about this

Re: [mailop] How to find 'low flying' spamers? (Re: outlook.com blocking reason: S3150 "network is on our block list")

2018-10-03 Thread Brandon Long via mailop
On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 2:17 AM Alessandro Vesely wrote: > On Mon 01/Oct/2018 11:23:15 +0200 Benoit Panizzon wrote: > > > > * Keep cache history from which IP an SMTP Authentication occurred. > > > I'm curious about this technique. Currently I block by IP and whitelist by > domain, so I must be

Re: [mailop] How to find 'low flying' spamers? (Re: outlook.com blocking reason: S3150 "network is on our block list")

2018-10-03 Thread Michael Wise via mailop
rting Tool ? -Original Message- From: mailop On Behalf Of Alessandro Vesely Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2018 2:17 AM To: mailop ; Benoit Panizzon Cc: Brandon Long ; Michael Peddemors Subject: Re: [mailop] How to find 'low flying' spamers? (Re: outlook.com blocking reason: S3150 "network

Re: [mailop] How to find 'low flying' spamers? (Re: outlook.com blocking reason: S3150 "network is on our block list")

2018-10-03 Thread Alessandro Vesely
On Mon 01/Oct/2018 11:23:15 +0200 Benoit Panizzon wrote: > > * Keep cache history from which IP an SMTP Authentication occurred. I'm curious about this technique. Currently I block by IP and whitelist by domain, so I must be missing something in between :-) How long does that cache last? At

Re: [mailop] How to find 'low flying' spamers? (Re: outlook.com blocking reason: S3150 "network is on our block list")

2018-10-01 Thread John Levine
In article <28c04515-a3e2-94bc-9ed2-6505ee089...@linuxmagic.com> you write: >With all respect, if someone advertises an SPF -all we SHOULD be >honouring this.. This was the senders wishes.. Like Brandon said, if it's a plain -all meaning no mail at all, sure. Otherwise, sorry pal, you don't get

Re: [mailop] How to find 'low flying' spamers? (Re: outlook.com blocking reason: S3150 "network is on our block list")

2018-10-01 Thread Brandon Long via mailop
On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 5:09 PM Michael Peddemors wrote: > On 18-10-01 04:48 PM, Brandon Long via mailop wrote: > > Mail servers that believe SPF policies and reject messages because of it > > are really kidding themselves. > > > > This could start a whole thread on it's own.. > There have been

Re: [mailop] How to find 'low flying' spamers? (Re: outlook.com blocking reason: S3150 "network is on our block list")

2018-10-01 Thread Brandon Long via mailop
On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 4:39 PM Michael Peddemors wrote: > On 18-10-01 03:52 PM, Grant Taylor via mailop wrote: > > On 10/01/2018 03:00 PM, Brandon Long via mailop wrote: > >> We've typically recommended forwarders to not rewrite the envelope > >> sender when forwarding for this reason, but that

Re: [mailop] How to find 'low flying' spamers? (Re: outlook.com blocking reason: S3150 "network is on our block list")

2018-10-01 Thread Michael Peddemors
On 18-10-01 04:48 PM, Brandon Long via mailop wrote: Mail servers that believe SPF policies and reject messages because of it are really kidding themselves. This could start a whole thread on it's own.. With all respect, if someone advertises an SPF -all we SHOULD be honouring this.. This

Re: [mailop] How to find 'low flying' spamers? (Re: outlook.com blocking reason: S3150 "network is on our block list")

2018-10-01 Thread Brandon Long via mailop
On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 4:02 PM Grant Taylor via mailop wrote: > On 10/01/2018 03:00 PM, Brandon Long via mailop wrote: > > We've typically recommended forwarders to not rewrite the envelope > > sender when forwarding for this reason, but that was mostly pointed > > at tech folks running their

Re: [mailop] How to find 'low flying' spamers? (Re: outlook.com blocking reason: S3150 "network is on our block list")

2018-10-01 Thread Michael Peddemors
On 18-10-01 03:52 PM, Grant Taylor via mailop wrote: On 10/01/2018 03:00 PM, Brandon Long via mailop wrote: We've typically recommended forwarders to not rewrite the envelope sender when forwarding for this reason, but that was mostly pointed at tech folks running their own servers (this page

Re: [mailop] How to find 'low flying' spamers? (Re: outlook.com blocking reason: S3150 "network is on our block list")

2018-10-01 Thread Grant Taylor via mailop
On 10/01/2018 03:00 PM, Brandon Long via mailop wrote: We've typically recommended forwarders to not rewrite the envelope sender when forwarding for this reason, but that was mostly pointed at tech folks running their own servers (this page has a section for procmail

Re: [mailop] How to find 'low flying' spamers? (Re: outlook.com blocking reason: S3150 "network is on our block list")

2018-10-01 Thread Brandon Long via mailop
On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 2:35 AM Benoit Panizzon wrote: > Hi List > > Well thank you for all the hints. I also (thanks to Al) found out, that > you need to set the browser language to english, to get to the propper > help page where the delisting request form can be found. With german, > you're

Re: [mailop] How to find 'low flying' spamers? (Re: outlook.com blocking reason: S3150 "network is on our block list")

2018-10-01 Thread Rob McEwen
Sounds like you're doing MUCH correctly. Here is another suggestion: Start limiting the ability of your end users to set up forwarders for email accounts forwarding to freemail addresses. For starters, I especially highly recommend not allowing anyone to auto-forward their mail to ANY

Re: [mailop] How to find 'low flying' spamers? (Re: outlook.com blocking reason: S3150 "network is on our block list")

2018-10-01 Thread Benjamin BILLON
, 2018 11:23 Cc: mailop@mailop.org Subject: [mailop] How to find 'low flying' spamers? (Re: outlook.com blocking reason: S3150 "network is on our block list") Hi List Well thank you for all the hints. I also (thanks to Al) found out, that you need to set the browser language to engli