Re: [mailop] New method of blocking spam

2016-01-22 Thread John Levine
> What get's spammers caught is that eventually they >have to sell you something Gee, did we drop through a wormhole into 1998 or something? R's, John ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org

Re: [mailop] Spurious 'Client host [xyz] blocked using b.barracudacentral.org' replies

2016-01-22 Thread John Levine
>> Back In The Day, there was a BCP for shutting down a DNSBL that included >> running a daily check of the IP >127.0.0.1 (which should never hit), IIRC, as well as 127.0.0.2 (which should >always return a hit); and if my >memory serves, if either criteria was different (both listed or neither

Re: [mailop] New method of blocking spam

2016-01-22 Thread David Hofstee
>... What get's spammers caught is that eventually they have to sell you >something That includes all of my legitimate customers... If you want I can get you some legitimate subject lines :-). A few points: - There is a difference between 'real' companies that do stupid/illegal things and

[mailop] Yahoo issues this evening?

2016-01-22 Thread frnkblk
We saw some of this in our logs tonight: Site yahoo.com (98.136.217.203) said in response to MAIL FROM (451 4.3.2 Internal error reading data) Site yahoo.com (66.196.118.36) said in response to MAIL FROM (451 4.3.2 Internal error reading data) Site yahoo.com (66.196.118.37) said in response to

Re: [mailop] New method of blocking spam

2016-01-22 Thread Simon Lyall
On Thu, 21 Jan 2016, Marc Perkel wrote: Here is a list of 3494938 words and phrases used in the subject line of SPAM and never seen in the subject line of HAM http://www.junkemailfilter.com/data/subject-spam.txt Well besides all the other objections, I can see all sort of bugs in that

Re: [mailop] Yahoo issues this evening?

2016-01-22 Thread Chris Vervais
You're not the only one that saw it. From my perspective though it looks like it's cleared up. > On Jan 22, 2016, at 21:53, frnk...@iname.com wrote: > > We saw some of this in our logs tonight: > > Site yahoo.com (98.136.217.203) said in response to MAIL FROM (451 4.3.2 > Internal error

Re: [mailop] New method of blocking spam

2016-01-22 Thread Brielle Bruns
On 1/21/16 1:45 PM, Marc Perkel wrote: Just to follow up on this. I'm in the process of improving the filter. But I have filed my provisional patent so i'm going to give you an overview of how it works. As someone who has been involved in spam fighting stuff since 1999 or so, hate to burst

Re: [mailop] New method of blocking spam

2016-01-22 Thread Brielle Bruns
On 1/22/16 9:24 AM, Neil Jenkins wrote: On Fri, 22 Jan 2016, at 11:01 AM, Brielle Bruns wrote: I'm trying to find that checklist that the spam fighting regulars used to post whenever someone is all excited about their end-game to spam filtering... Anyone remember a URL for it?

Re: [mailop] New method of blocking spam

2016-01-22 Thread Carl Byington
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Fri, 2016-01-22 at 09:01 -0700, Brielle Bruns wrote: > I'm trying to find that checklist that the spam fighting regulars used > to post whenever someone is all excited about their end-game to spam > filtering... Anyone remember a URL for it?

Re: [mailop] New method of blocking spam

2016-01-22 Thread Neil Jenkins
On Fri, 22 Jan 2016, at 11:01 AM, Brielle Bruns wrote: > I'm trying to find that checklist that the spam fighting regulars used > to post whenever someone is all excited about their end-game to spam > filtering...   Anyone remember a URL for it? http://craphound.com/spamsolutions.txt I presume.

Re: [mailop] [C] [Fwd: SPF and MX hacks]

2016-01-22 Thread Jay Hennigan
On 1/22/16 2:49 PM, Michelle Sullivan wrote: Oh dear, oh dear... Words fail me... not just because he sent me a cease and desist... but that apparently I invented some MX hack when all I was doing was suggesting he might be infringing on the SPF prior art as well as pointing him to other docs

Re: [mailop] New method of blocking spam

2016-01-22 Thread John R Levine
What get's spammers caught is that eventually they have to sell you something Gee, did we drop through a wormhole into 1998 or something? He's missing a few somethings. Spammers might not be trying to sell you something. No kidding. The classic example is pump and dump, where they're