Re: [mailop] MailChimp and TLS

2018-12-07 Thread Luis E. Muñoz via mailop
On 7 Dec 2018, at 11:14, Ken O'Driscoll via mailop wrote: It would be super helpful if any mailbox provider here could tell me what they see with MailChimp regarding TLS. I looked at a hundred random samples dating back to mid November. I saw exactly zero that used TLS inbound. The sample

[mailop] MailChimp and TLS

2018-12-07 Thread Ken O'Driscoll via mailop
Hi everyone, I have a client who uses MailChimp. Now, I have noticed that for this particular customer's campaigns, MailChimp does not always appear to attempt to initiate (not a failed negotiation etc.) STARTTLS when talking to our mail server. It does sometimes, but not always. While I

Re: [mailop] SPF soft fail vs. hard fail

2018-12-07 Thread Ángel
On 2018-12-06 at 17:52 -0800, Autumn Tyr-Salvia wrote: > Hello Mail Operators, > My job is to help large organizations figure out their email > infrastructure and authenticate everything legitimate with the goal of > going to DMARC p=reject. A customer recently reported an issue to me > about

Re: [mailop] SPF soft fail vs. hard fail

2018-12-07 Thread Michael Peddemors
For a perspective on how we address this.. We take a middle of the road approach. For companies such as banks, paypal, and other big targets of phishing attacks, we go stronger, in some cases even rejecting on ~all, and for high volume senders with -all we also reject, right at the SMTP

Re: [mailop] SPF soft fail vs. hard fail

2018-12-07 Thread Todd Herr via mailop
"How common is it to have receiver systems set so that SPF hard fail will reject messages even if they otherwise pass DKIM and DMARC, but to accept them on the DKIM pass if the domain uses SPF soft fail?" SPF checking is/can be done at the MAIL FROM part of the conversation; it's keyed to the

Re: [mailop] SPF soft fail vs. hard fail

2018-12-07 Thread Bill Cole
On 6 Dec 2018, at 20:52, Autumn Tyr-Salvia wrote: I have a lot of experience with SPF, though admittedly, I don't have as much experience with SPF failures (I see a lot of cases of no SPF, or passing but not aligned SPF, but comparatively few actual failures), but I haven't heard this

Re: [mailop] SPF soft fail vs. hard fail

2018-12-07 Thread Vladimir Dubrovin via mailop
SPF (RFC 7208) explicitly allows recipient to block e-mail based on SPF policy in the case of the hard fail. In practice, blocking mail based on hard fail policy is rare, but not unusual. In short, there are 2 recommendations for you situation: 1. Consider implementing SRS (sender rewrite

Re: [mailop] Constant Contact now supporting deliberate, admitted spammers?

2018-12-07 Thread Laura Atkins
Have you reported it to abuse? Have they failed to act on it? laura > On 6 Dec 2018, at 20:31, Jay Hennigan wrote: > > I just received spam from jeb...@cogzentappz.com sent via Constant Contact. > Headers verify that it is indeed from Constant Contact. The spam was sent to > an address

Re: [mailop] ATT Postmaster

2018-12-07 Thread Ewald Kessler | webpower
Thanks for sharing, Michael! Ewald -- Deliverability & Abuse Management, www.webpower-group.com ewald.kess...@webpower.nl t: +31 342 423 262 li: www.linkedin.com/in/ewaldkessler On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 at 16:28, Michael E. Weisel wrote: > I just wanted to give an update on this. It seems that

Re: [mailop] SPF soft fail vs. hard fail

2018-12-07 Thread Benjamin BILLON
This behavior of respecting the published policy is the way to go, until it's not anymore. You have to be a big enough receiver for having enough complaints about unreceived legit emails without taking the time to educate/explain that an admin didn't do his job properly. And also to afford not