Re: [mailop] Report as spam and mail forwarders: best practices?

2020-06-24 Thread Leo Gaspard via mailop
Atro Tossavainen via mailop writes: >> We handle an email forwarder. Recently, we have been having more and >> more issues with people reporting forwarded emails as spam, that end up >> (probably) deteriorating the reputation of our email servers. > > You could ask the good folks at iki.fi for

Re: [mailop] Report as spam and mail forwarders: best practices?

2020-06-24 Thread Leo Gaspard via mailop
users who think the spam button is the same thing as the delete button. > > > > On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 9:16 AM Leo Gaspard via mailop > wrote: > >> Michael Peddemors via mailop writes: >> > Since every email client in the world can check multiple mailboxes, ISPs >&g

Re: [mailop] Report as spam and mail forwarders: best practices?

2020-06-19 Thread Leo Gaspard via mailop
Michael Peddemors via mailop writes: > Since every email client in the world can check multiple mailboxes, ISPs > and Telco's are starting to simply turn off 'remote forwarding', it is > an option for you of course. Unfortunately, this is not really a reasonable course of action for us: most

[mailop] Report as spam and mail forwarders: best practices?

2020-06-19 Thread Leo Gaspard via mailop
Hello all, We handle an email forwarder. Recently, we have been having more and more issues with people reporting forwarded emails as spam, that end up (probably) deteriorating the reputation of our email servers. We have already set up: - an antispam, but some emails marked as spam are even to

Re: [mailop] Howto be a good mailop (best practice / insights wanted)

2019-05-10 Thread Leo Gaspard via mailop
Steve Atkins via mailop writes: >> On May 10, 2019, at 10:50 AM, Leo Gaspard via mailop >> wrote: >> Laura Atkins via mailop writes: >>> For victims of listbombing, COI isn’t an answer. In fact, much of the >>> problem with listbombing is COI mail. &g

Re: [mailop] Howto be a good mailop (best practice / insights wanted)

2019-05-10 Thread Leo Gaspard via mailop
Laura Atkins via mailop writes: > For victims of listbombing, COI isn’t an answer. In fact, much of the problem > with listbombing is COI mail. > > How do you propose to address that issue? Captchas are a way to force the malicious subscriber to spend human or computer time breaking it (if

Re: [mailop] The utility of spam folders

2019-04-28 Thread Leo Gaspard via mailop
"Bill Cole" writes: > I know from doing it that limbo-free email can be done well enough > (minimal bad mail being delivered or good mail being rejected) that > paying users will come to prefer it over freemail-like service. That > service model lacks significant economies of scale (and arguably

Re: [mailop] GDPR and SMTP in general

2018-05-25 Thread Leo Gaspard via mailop
On 05/25/2018 12:14 PM, Rolf E. Sonneveld wrote: > Yes, dealing with exactly the same kind of problem(s). One of my > customers asks me to sign for the fact that mail is encrypted when > handling it. However, using standard MTA software, messages that are in > the queue waiting to get delivered,

Re: [mailop] DMARC with broken DKIM

2018-04-09 Thread Leo Gaspard via mailop
to happen any time soon, so… > Brandon > > On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 3:35 PM Leo Gaspard via mailop <mailop@mailop.org > <mailto:mailop@mailop.org>> wrote: > > On 04/09/2018 08:45 PM, Jesse Thompson wrote:> Kinda, yes.  Anyone > running a non-compliant l

[mailop] DMARC with broken DKIM (was: Re: DMARC p=quarantine pct=0)

2018-04-09 Thread Leo Gaspard via mailop
On 04/09/2018 08:45 PM, Jesse Thompson wrote:> Kinda, yes.  Anyone running a non-compliant list server should look to > how other list servers are making themselves compliant.  Could be... > 1) rewrite headers > 2) not break DKIM > 3) ARC? > I don't want to be overly prescriptive (no one in