Re: [mailop] Sendgrid abuse forwarding to Google - not one of your brightest ideas

2023-03-22 Thread Mickey Chandler via mailop
Eh. Sendgrid isn't a mailbox provider. Holding them to that standard of things isn't the right way of looking at it. For an Email Service Provider (like Sendgrid), the headers likely do have the information to find the outgoing job where the actual messages were built and there will be

Re: [mailop] Walled gardens

2022-02-03 Thread Mickey Chandler via mailop
On Wed, Feb 2, 2022 at 5:50 PM yuv via mailop wrote: > > > Not law, documentation. RFC5321 describes the state of SMTP, as of > > 2008, sorta. How it was working best then, to the degree that the > > editor and authors could reach consensus. The changes from 2821 to > > 5321 are clarifications,

Re: [mailop] WhatCounts/Costco silliness

2021-10-27 Thread Mickey Chandler via mailop
If you want to get THAT pedantic about it, so is sending an email. After all, I can usually get info on the person's anti-spam solution, what MUA (other than the web interface) they used, and often the IP address they used to send the message via headers. I suppose that you COULD make a case that

Re: [mailop] Got any users in Texas? Better turn off your spam filters by Dec 2

2021-09-24 Thread Mickey Chandler via mailop
I'm not going to dispute that the law is dumb (because it certainly is), but Prof. Goldman misses the mark on the spam filtering issue, I think. If he mentioned new Tex. Bus. & Comm. Code Sec. 321.054(1) ("the provider is authorized to block the transmission under Section 321.114 or other

Re: [mailop] Delisting request from sendgrid customer about ip used in recent phishing campaign.

2020-08-14 Thread Mickey Chandler via mailop
I'm going to preface this email by saying that I do, in fact, run an abuse desk. I'm the director of the policy enforcement team for my employer, an ESP that everyone knows. I'm not going to mention them by name because anything that I say here is based upon my own thoughts, opinions, and

Re: [mailop] Fake documents from Microsoft and fake voice mail from Exacttarget

2020-06-24 Thread Mickey Chandler via mailop
There's not much that I can say about this issue other than this: 1) Your second Pardot sample link gives an access denied error. 2) As in all such instances, appropriate measures have been and will be taken with regard to relevant Pardot & Salesforce policies. As much as I would love to pull an