Re: [mailop] Cloudflare not taking actions agains spamers?

2016-09-06 Thread Aaron C. de Bruyn
On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 10:19 PM, Dave Warren wrote: > There is a difference: CloudFlare serves content on behalf of the site > owner, my cache does not. > > What is your point here? > I guess I see it differently. CloudFlare is just a cache. They are a proxy service. They

Re: [mailop] Cloudflare not taking actions agains spamers?

2016-09-06 Thread Laura Atkins
> On Sep 6, 2016, at 5:14 PM, Franck Martin via mailop > wrote: > > IMHO > > It is hard to justify: take down this content because I received a bad email. > > You either ask the web content to be taken down because it is bad on its own > merit, or you ask the mail server

Re: [mailop] Cloudflare not taking actions agains spamers?

2016-09-06 Thread Franck Martin via mailop
IMHO It is hard to justify: take down this content because I received a bad email. You either ask the web content to be taken down because it is bad on its own merit, or you ask the mail server admins to not send such bad emails. To link the bad emails to a website needs a bit more work to

Re: [mailop] Cloudflare not taking actions agains spamers?

2016-09-06 Thread Bill Cole
On 6 Sep 2016, at 1:04, Aaron C. de Bruyn wrote: Anyways, I thought there was a court case back in mid-90s where Compuserve or Prodigy or something was ruled to not be responsible for content flowing through their networks as they are simply the conduit. Cubby v. CompuServe and Stratton

Re: [mailop] Cloudflare not taking actions agains spamers?

2016-09-06 Thread Dave Warren
On Mon, Sep 5, 2016, at 23:41, Benoit Panizzon wrote: > At least they could forward all spam complaints they receive to the > hoster of the origin on the content. But in my observation, they don't > do that. Truthfully, forwarding complaints is a bit of a messy business as this could easily

Re: [mailop] Cloudflare not taking actions agains spamers?

2016-09-05 Thread Jay Hennigan
On 9/5/16 10:04 PM, Aaron C. de Bruyn wrote: You're the one who said "CloudFlare will serve your website's static pages from our cache...that falls into my definition of being a host, even if it's only short term". So will your browser. /nitpick Not unless his browser cache is accessible to

Re: [mailop] Cloudflare not taking actions agains spamers?

2016-09-05 Thread James Pole
On 6/09/2016, at 4:44 PM, Aaron C. de Bruyn wrote: > >> On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 8:52 PM, Dave Warren wrote: >> They >> can yell and scream all they want about not being a host, but they also >> advertise that "CloudFlare will serve your website's static

Re: [mailop] Cloudflare not taking actions agains spamers?

2016-09-05 Thread Aaron C. de Bruyn
You're the one who said "CloudFlare will serve your website's static pages from our cache...that falls into my definition of being a host, even if it's only short term". So will your browser. /nitpick Anyways, I thought there was a court case back in mid-90s where Compuserve or Prodigy or