Re: [mailop] Enforcement of RFCs [was: GoDaddy Email admins' in the house?]

2017-02-15 Thread Brandon Long via mailop
The test was for the rbl DSN rfc clueless, they were attempting to test whether we accepted mail with an empty mail from, ie bounces, which of course we do... but their test is clueless. Brandon On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 10:11 AM, wrote: > On Wed, 15 Feb 2017 05:59:36

Re: [mailop] Enforcement of RFCs [was: GoDaddy Email admins' in the house?]

2017-02-15 Thread valdis . kletnieks
On Wed, 15 Feb 2017 05:59:36 +, Phil Pennock said: > I believe Brandon's point is that this is a probe _of_ Gmail, not _by_ > Gmail, and the service purporting to be testing RFC conformance is > instead doing a very old-style message with no headers at all. Right. The test sends something

Re: [mailop] Enforcement of RFCs [was: GoDaddy Email admins' in the house?]

2017-02-15 Thread Brian Reichert
On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 05:59:36AM +, Phil Pennock wrote: > On 2017-02-15 at 00:24 -0500, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: > > So your post un-wordraps into: > > > DATA > > 354 Go ahead d7si5125389wjc.145 - gsmtp > > Testing. . > > 550-5.7.1 [2001:4830:11aa:106:c23f:d5ff:fe67:5ce1 11] Our

Re: [mailop] Enforcement of RFCs [was: GoDaddy Email admins' in the house?]

2017-02-14 Thread Brandon Long via mailop
About 1.5y ok, we tried to start enforcing strict correctness for the HELO/EHLO argument. For whatever reason, we'd been very lenient before, to the point where I think we would accept an "empty" argument (ie, just a space after HELO), iirc. The main reason we did this was we were getting

Re: [mailop] Enforcement of RFCs [was: GoDaddy Email admins' in the house?]

2017-02-14 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 01:06:49PM -0500, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: > And where do you announce it where all the mail system administrators who > don't read the *current* BCPs will see it and act on it? I got nothin'. Seriously, I thought about this for a while, and every idea that I have

Re: [mailop] Enforcement of RFCs [was: GoDaddy Email admins' in the house?]

2017-02-13 Thread valdis . kletnieks
On Sun, 12 Feb 2017 07:52:25 -0500, Rich Kulawiec said: > On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 12:33:47PM -0800, Michael Peddemors wrote: > > More and more, if you want to deliver email in today's environments, you > > have to ensure your email servers are correctly configured. > > I think there's considerable

[mailop] Enforcement of RFCs [was: GoDaddy Email admins' in the house?]

2017-02-12 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 12:33:47PM -0800, Michael Peddemors wrote: > More and more, if you want to deliver email in today's environments, you > have to ensure your email servers are correctly configured. I think there's considerable value in slowly enforcing this in stepwise, announced fashion.