Re: [mailop] OVH Bulk Mailer? Anyone know this one?

2020-08-08 Thread Hans-Martin Mosner via mailop
Am 07.08.20 um 19:14 schrieb Alain Gaudreau via mailop: > > I disagree Hans-Martin. > I sympathize with you. Constantly fighting mail blocks is certainly as tiring as constantly fighting mail abuse. > >   > > We have been using ovh for years and years and enforce strict abuse policies > on our

Re: [mailop] OVH Bulk Mailer? Anyone know this one?

2020-08-07 Thread Hans-Martin Mosner via mailop
Am 07.08.20 um 22:54 schrieb Alain Gaudreau via mailop: > @Chris > > My vision of it is larger and includes a blacklist with the ability to > exclude and grey list certain hosts within the large blocks controlled by ovh > and the lot. I'm working on a system which may in the long run include

Re: [mailop] OVH Bulk Mailer? Anyone know this one?

2020-08-07 Thread Alain Gaudreau via mailop
Mailer? Anyone know this one? On 2020-08-07 13:14, Alain Gaudreau via mailop wrote: > Perhaps the time has come to change how we have all been doing it for > decades with the current hundreds of RBL’s and local block lists and > put in place a low cost or no cost to mailops neutral w

Re: [mailop] OVH Bulk Mailer? Anyone know this one?

2020-08-07 Thread Chris via mailop
On 2020-08-07 13:14, Alain Gaudreau via mailop wrote: Perhaps the time has come to change how we have all been doing it for decades with the current hundreds of RBL’s and local block lists and put in place a low cost or no cost to mailops neutral world wide “governing body” built on fast

Re: [mailop] OVH Bulk Mailer? Anyone know this one?

2020-08-07 Thread Alain Gaudreau via mailop
artin Mosner via mailop Sent: August 5, 2020 9:22 AM To: mailop@mailop.org Subject: Re: [mailop] OVH Bulk Mailer? Anyone know this one? Unless you or your users happen to be customers of those few mostly french companies who use OVH for customer communication, blocking them is a pretty sensible

Re: [mailop] OVH Bulk Mailer? Anyone know this one?

2020-08-07 Thread Michael Peddemors via mailop
While there are unfortunately good email operators on the OVH network, unfortunately our data shows a lot more abuse than good.. BTW, speaking of OVH, anyone know these guys? 167.114.98.1512 guesser8.wdemg4.com 167.114.98.2273 guesser1.wdemg.com

Re: [mailop] OVH Bulk Mailer? Anyone know this one?

2020-08-07 Thread Renaud Allard via mailop
On 8/5/20 2:47 PM, Otto J. Makela via mailop wrote: On 21/05/2019 12.37, Otto J. Makela via mailop wrote: Is there any point in receiving any email from any OVH space, since discussions on this list would seem to indicate they have no functioning abuse enforcement? Numerous netblocks

Re: [mailop] OVH Bulk Mailer? Anyone know this one?

2020-08-07 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop
Dnia 5.08.2020 o godz. 15:47:10 Otto J. Makela via mailop pisze: > > Is there any point in receiving any email from any OVH space, If you are interested in receiving mail from me, then there probably is... :) -- Regards, Jaroslaw Rafa r...@rafa.eu.org -- "In a million years, when kids go

Re: [mailop] OVH Bulk Mailer? Anyone know this one?

2020-08-05 Thread Hans-Martin Mosner via mailop
Unless you or your users happen to be customers of those few mostly french companies who use OVH for customer communication, blocking them is a pretty sensible thing to do. They still host spammers, they still ignore abuse reports, so nothing has changed in the last year. Cheers, Hans-Martin

Re: [mailop] OVH Bulk Mailer? Anyone know this one?

2020-08-05 Thread Otto J. Makela via mailop
On 21/05/2019 12.37, Otto J. Makela via mailop wrote: > Is there any point in receiving any email from any OVH space, > since discussions on this list would seem to indicate they have > no functioning abuse enforcement? > > Numerous netblocks registered to them [...] > seem to be permanent

Re: [mailop] OVH Bulk Mailer? Anyone know this one?

2019-05-21 Thread Michael Peddemors via mailop
Don't get me started on OVH IP Space. Aside from all the blocks delegated with no rwhois, hiding behind GDPR as an excuse not to provide information on the operator.. Aside from known spammers where the domains are so obviously used for fraud. Aside from the poor OVH abuse handling. Just

Re: [mailop] OVH Bulk Mailer? Anyone know this one?

2019-05-21 Thread Otto J. Makela via mailop
Is there any point in receiving any email from any OVH space, since discussions on this list would seem to indicate they have no functioning abuse enforcement? Numerous netblocks registered to them like 51.77.44.64-51.77.44.127 described as "Failover IPs / Legacy" seem to be permanent spammer