Re: [mailop] BGP Announcements

2018-04-09 Thread Tim Bray
On 05/04/18 19:20, Ryan Harris via mailop wrote: > If we advertised (announced) IP space with a /20 CIDR via BGP for > months, then stopped that advertisement for 7 days and re-advertised > but with 2 different /21 CIDR ranges, would this produce a negative > effect to our IPs reputation?  > > I

Re: [mailop] BGP Announcements

2018-04-06 Thread Ryan Harris via mailop
Thanks Ken and David. It's helpful to get your insight. On Fri, Apr 6, 2018 at 5:47 AM, David Hofstee wrote: > Hi Ryan, > > If spamfilters use machine learning, like the ones at Google, Microsoft, > Yahoo, Proofpoint (and Cloudmark) then they tend to have a lot of inputs. > Including "reputation

Re: [mailop] BGP Announcements

2018-04-06 Thread David Hofstee
Hi Ryan, If spamfilters use machine learning, like the ones at Google, Microsoft, Yahoo, Proofpoint (and Cloudmark) then they tend to have a lot of inputs. Including "reputation" on AS and IP which may be dependent on changes in routing. Because that is one of the tricks that spammers use. This ca

Re: [mailop] BGP Announcements

2018-04-06 Thread Ken O'Driscoll via mailop
On Thu, 2018-04-05 at 12:21 -0600, Ryan Harris via mailop wrote: > Could this cause other issues I'm not thinking of? I think you just need to make sure that whatever you're doing wouldn't look like hijacking to a (moderately intelligent) machine learning algorithm. And if you're keeping it all un

Re: [mailop] BGP Announcements

2018-04-05 Thread Ryan Harris via mailop
Forgot a key factor, after the 7 day blackout period we would re-advertise for less than a month before using IPs; hence concern over CIDR change or the lack of 90 days advertising (announcing) the /21s via BGP. On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 12:20 PM, Ryan Harris wrote: > Hi Mailop, > > If we advertise