Re: [mailop] Best strategy to prune address list

2019-11-25 Thread Jay Hennigan via mailop
On 11/23/19 13:06, Rolf E. Sonneveld via mailop wrote: Do you have some examples of reputable list cleaning services? Devlin Null does a very thorough job of removing questionable addresses. If you're considering mass email to a list of unknown or sketchy provenance, feed it to Dev. --

Re: [mailop] Best strategy to prune address list

2019-11-25 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop
Dnia 24.11.2019 o godz. 22:20:15 Michael Orlitzky via mailop pisze: > On 11/24/19 12:17 PM, Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote: > > > > Just to be precise, you should check for either MX or A/ record. > > This prevents you from eliminating a huge number of bad addresses, > though, to save a

Re: [mailop] Best strategy to prune address list

2019-11-24 Thread ml+mailop--- via mailop
On Sun, Nov 24, 2019, Michael Orlitzky via mailop wrote: > For the same reason, I would recommend verifying the addresses against a > simple regular expression to catch typos, rather than against the full > rfc5322 grammar which allows basically anything. Hopefully not the one which is used on

Re: [mailop] Best strategy to prune address list

2019-11-24 Thread Michael Orlitzky via mailop
On 11/24/19 12:17 PM, Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote: > > Just to be precise, you should check for either MX or A/ record. This prevents you from eliminating a huge number of bad addresses, though, to save a negligible amount of good ones. For the same reason, I would recommend verifying

Re: [mailop] Best strategy to prune address list

2019-11-24 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop
Dnia 24.11.2019 o godz. 17:47:43 hg user via mailop pisze: > When I had to do this kind of work on a mailing list, *more than 10 years > ago*, I started creating a list of all the unique email domains, then with > a script check if a MX record was present. Just to be precise, you should check for

Re: [mailop] Best strategy to prune address list

2019-11-24 Thread hg user via mailop
When I had to do this kind of work on a mailing list, *more than 10 years ago*, I started creating a list of all the unique email domains, then with a script check if a MX record was present. I think this method can be used today just to check how many domains are no longer active and how many

Re: [mailop] Best strategy to prune address list

2019-11-24 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop
Dnia 23.11.2019 o godz. 20:05:07 Tom Ivar Helbekkmo via mailop pisze: > In the olden days, one would simply write a script, using expect(1) or > similar, to go through the addresses, connect to the target MTAs, and do > an SMTP VRFY on the recipient address. Today, I suspect that most MTAs > will

Re: [mailop] Best strategy to prune address list

2019-11-23 Thread ml+mailop--- via mailop
On Sat, Nov 23, 2019, Tom Ivar Helbekkmo via mailop wrote: > In the olden days, one would simply write a script, using expect(1) or > similar, to go through the addresses, connect to the target MTAs, and do > an SMTP VRFY on the recipient address. Today, I suspect that most MTAs Some MTAs have

Re: [mailop] Best strategy to prune address list

2019-11-23 Thread Bill Cole via mailop
On 23 Nov 2019, at 16:06, Rolf E. Sonneveld via mailop wrote: Do you have some examples of reputable list cleaning services? No such entity can exist in the modern world. As Matt noted, without a reliable provenance and explicit permission for each and every address that might be subject to

Re: [mailop] Best strategy to prune address list

2019-11-23 Thread Matt Vernhout via mailop
There are also several legislative hurdles you’ll need to evaluate the list against. Two that come to mind are: Canada’s Anti-Spam Law has a two year expiry on implied consent. If you have addresses older than that in Canada you would likely be in violation of the law. GDPR also has some

Re: [mailop] Best strategy to prune address list

2019-11-23 Thread Rolf E. Sonneveld via mailop
Hi, Steve, On 23-11-19 20:18, Steve Atkins via mailop wrote: On 23/11/2019 19:05, Tom Ivar Helbekkmo via mailop wrote: "Rolf E. Sonneveld via mailop" writes: What would be a good strategy for this customer to update his list of contacts? If it's old enough that they're asking the

Re: [mailop] Best strategy to prune address list

2019-11-23 Thread Michael Peddemors via mailop
On 2019-11-23 11:05 a.m., Tom Ivar Helbekkmo via mailop wrote: "Rolf E. Sonneveld via mailop" writes: What would be a good strategy for this customer to update his list of contacts? In the olden days, one would simply write a script, using expect(1) or similar, to go through the addresses,

Re: [mailop] Best strategy to prune address list

2019-11-23 Thread Luis E. Muñoz via mailop
On 23 Nov 2019, at 11:05, Tom Ivar Helbekkmo via mailop wrote: > Today, I suspect that most MTAs > will refuse to service a VRFY request. > > Anyone know if that assumption is good? I would be very surprised if you were wrong. -lem ___ mailop

Re: [mailop] Best strategy to prune address list

2019-11-23 Thread Steve Atkins via mailop
On 23/11/2019 19:05, Tom Ivar Helbekkmo via mailop wrote: "Rolf E. Sonneveld via mailop" writes: What would be a good strategy for this customer to update his list of contacts? If it's old enough that they're asking the question, and are afraid of the impact of even a single "Hey, still

Re: [mailop] Best strategy to prune address list

2019-11-23 Thread Tom Ivar Helbekkmo via mailop
"Rolf E. Sonneveld via mailop" writes: > What would be a good strategy for this customer to update his list of > contacts? In the olden days, one would simply write a script, using expect(1) or similar, to go through the addresses, connect to the target MTAs, and do an SMTP VRFY on the

Re: [mailop] Best strategy to prune address list

2019-11-23 Thread Jay Hennigan via mailop
On 11/23/19 02:57, Rolf E. Sonneveld via mailop wrote: Hi, over the years, one of my customers has built up a list of contacts (mail addresses). He didn't use the list for quite some time and now he > wants to prune the list by checking the existence/validity of the addresses and remove the