Re: [mailop] Debt Collection Client Email Servers

2024-03-26 Thread Tim Starr via mailop
On Behalf Of Jay Hennigan via > mailop > Sent: Monday, March 25, 2024 1:37 PM > To: mailop@mailop.org > Subject: Re: [mailop] Debt Collection Client Email Servers > > CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not > click any links or open attachments u

Re: [mailop] Debt Collection Client Email Servers

2024-03-26 Thread Michael Irvine via mailop
Huynh via mailop Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2024 9:12 AM To: mailop@mailop.org Subject: Re: [mailop] Debt Collection Client Email Servers CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click any links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content

Re: [mailop] Debt Collection Client Email Servers

2024-03-26 Thread Chris Adams via mailop
Once upon a time, Alexander Huynh said: > Good news is there's a draft RFC presented at IETF 119 to tackle this: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-dweekly-wrong-recipient/ Good luck on the problem senders implementing it... if they cared, they'd already have something. I also get money

Re: [mailop] Debt Collection Client Email Servers

2024-03-26 Thread Alexander Huynh via mailop
On Mar 26, 2024, at 09:14, Chris Adams via mailop wrote: I recently started getting debt collection emails [...] And there's no "unsubscribe" or "this is not me"... Good news is there's a draft RFC presented at IETF 119 to tackle this:

Re: [mailop] Debt Collection Client Email Servers

2024-03-26 Thread Michael Irvine via mailop
mailop Date: 3/26/24 02:16 (GMT-06:00) To: mailop Subject: Re: [mailop] Debt Collection Client Email Servers CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click any links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Out of curiosity

Re: [mailop] Debt Collection Client Email Servers

2024-03-26 Thread Chris Adams via mailop
Once upon a time, Brielle said: > E-mail addresses aren't guaranteed to actually belong to the person you think > you are sending to. Yep - I recently started getting debt collection emails to a Gmail I don't give out (only used for Google stuff). I've had the Gmail account since the beta days,

Re: [mailop] Debt Collection Client Email Servers

2024-03-26 Thread Laura Atkins via mailop
t; Thanks, > > Michael Irvine > > -Original Message- > From: mailop On Behalf Of Jay Hennigan via mailop > Sent: Monday, March 25, 2024 1:37 PM > To: mailop@mailop.org > Subject: Re: [mailop] Debt Collection Client Email Servers > > CAUTION: This email originate

Re: [mailop] Debt Collection Client Email Servers

2024-03-26 Thread Brielle via mailop
Out of curiosity, how are your clients going to prevent sharing of information protected under the FDCPA with third parties?E-mail addresses aren't guaranteed to actually belong to the person you think you are sending to.-- Brie(She/they)The Summit Open Source Development

Re: [mailop] Debt Collection Client Email Servers

2024-03-25 Thread Michael Rathbun via mailop
On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 23:21:51 +, Matt Palmer via mailop wrote: >That's some mighty early adoption you've got there. Yeah. I'm gonna have my cataract surgery in a couple weeks. Meanwhile, the correct number is 1996. Fytu, mdr ___ mailop

Re: [mailop] Debt Collection Client Email Servers

2024-03-25 Thread Matt Palmer via mailop
On Mon, Mar 25, 2024 at 12:39:04PM -0500, Michael Rathbun via mailop wrote: > an account that I established at Yahoo! in 1986 That's some mighty early adoption you've got there. - Matt ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org

Re: [mailop] Debt Collection Client Email Servers

2024-03-25 Thread Michael Irvine via mailop
-Original Message- From: mailop On Behalf Of Jay Hennigan via mailop Sent: Monday, March 25, 2024 1:37 PM To: mailop@mailop.org Subject: Re: [mailop] Debt Collection Client Email Servers CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click any links or open attachments unless

Re: [mailop] Debt Collection Client Email Servers

2024-03-25 Thread Jay Hennigan via mailop
On 3/22/24 14:58, Michael Peddemors via mailop wrote: If they are 'dedicated', doesn't matter if they are coming from SendGrid, the PTR should reflect your clients domain. host 149.72.234.90 90.234.72.149.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer wrqvzxrx.outbound-mail.sendgrid.net. If Sendgrid

Re: [mailop] Debt Collection Client Email Servers

2024-03-25 Thread Michael Rathbun via mailop
On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 15:47:11 +, Michael Irvine via mailop wrote: >I can't say the specific lenders, but I can say that it is not just bank and >money lending. We have clients who are from the courts and other 3rd parties >that do not fully validate the email that is given to them. We still

Re: [mailop] Debt Collection Client Email Servers

2024-03-25 Thread Bill Cole via mailop
On 2024-03-25 at 12:53:31 UTC-0400 (Mon, 25 Mar 2024 17:53:31 +0100) Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop is rumored to have said: Does USA have a government-certfied platform for electronic delivery of documents Not for general use. The IRS is piloting a direct tax filing system for a small number of

Re: [mailop] Debt Collection Client Email Servers

2024-03-25 Thread John Levine via mailop
It appears that Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop said: >Does USA have a government-certfied platform for electronic delivery of >documents (like many European countries have) ... No, and given the political structure here, we never will. We do have a post office which delivers mail reliably to every

Re: [mailop] Debt Collection Client Email Servers

2024-03-25 Thread John Levine via mailop
It appears that Michael Irvine via mailop said: >I can't say the specific lenders, but I can say that it is not just bank and >money lending. We have clients who are from the courts and other 3rd parties >that do >not fully validate the email that is given to them. We still must take it as

Re: [mailop] Debt Collection Client Email Servers

2024-03-25 Thread Graeme Fowler via mailop
On 25 Mar 2024, at 16:53, Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote: > > Does USA have a government-certfied platform for electronic delivery of > documents (like many European countries have) where every person can create > a "trusted account" ("trusted" means the identity of the person is confirmed > in

Re: [mailop] Debt Collection Client Email Servers

2024-03-25 Thread Bill Cole via mailop
On 2024-03-25 at 11:47:11 UTC-0400 (Mon, 25 Mar 2024 15:47:11 +) Michael Irvine via mailop is rumored to have said: how can we guarantee it to the inbox if many of the users mark it as SPAM and potentially blocks other communication. You cannot. The fact that you have an email address is

Re: [mailop] Debt Collection Client Email Servers

2024-03-25 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop
Dnia 25.03.2024 o godz. 16:10:47 Rob Kendrick via mailop pisze: > > The problem I am trying to fix is that these are legal emails and I > > need a way to signal that to the providers. With many states and USA > > government stating that email is a legal form of communication, how > > can we

Re: [mailop] Debt Collection Client Email Servers

2024-03-25 Thread Louis Laureys via mailop
mail. > > Michael Irvine > > -Original Message- > From: mailop On Behalf > Of Richard W via mailop > Sent: Monday, March 25, 2024 10:09 > To: mailop@mailop.org [mailop@mailop.org] > Subject: Re: [mailop] Debt Collection Client Email Servers > > CAUTION: Th

Re: [mailop] Debt Collection Client Email Servers

2024-03-25 Thread Rob Kendrick via mailop
On Mon, Mar 25, 2024 at 03:47:11PM +, Michael Irvine via mailop wrote: > The problem I am trying to fix is that these are legal emails and I > need a way to signal that to the providers. With many states and USA > government stating that email is a legal form of communication, how > can we

Re: [mailop] Debt Collection Client Email Servers

2024-03-25 Thread Michael Irvine via mailop
-be-served-via-e/ - Illinois allows sending of summons via Email. Michael Irvine -Original Message- From: mailop On Behalf Of Richard W via mailop Sent: Monday, March 25, 2024 10:09 To: mailop@mailop.org Subject: Re: [mailop] Debt Collection Client Email Servers CAUTION: This email

Re: [mailop] Debt Collection Client Email Servers

2024-03-25 Thread Richard W via mailop
s. Thanks, ** *Michael Irvine * Original message From: Michael Peddemors via mailop mailto:mailop@mailop.org>> Date: 3/22/24 17:09 (GMT-06:00) To: mailop@mailop.org <mailto:mailop@mailop.org> Subject: Re: [mailop] Debt Collection Client Email Serv

Re: [mailop] Debt Collection Client Email Servers

2024-03-25 Thread Kent McGovern via mailop
gt; > Thanks, > > > > *Michael Irvine * > > > > Original message > From: Michael Peddemors via mailop > Date: 3/22/24 17:09 (GMT-06:00) > To: mailop@mailop.org > Subject: Re: [mailop] Debt Collection Client Email Servers > > CAUTION: This email origina

Re: [mailop] Debt Collection Client Email Servers

2024-03-25 Thread Marco Moock via mailop
Am 22.03.2024 um 19:07:00 Uhr schrieb Michael Irvine via mailop: > NOTE: IPs are dedicated from SendGrid Sendgrid is a company that at least doesn't care about abuse from their systems. Assume that they are listed at various dnsbl or manually blocked by postmasters. -- Gruß Marco Send

Re: [mailop] Debt Collection Client Email Servers

2024-03-24 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian via mailop
: Monday, March 25, 2024 7:47:54 AM To: Michael Peddemors ; mailop@mailop.org Subject: Re: [mailop] Debt Collection Client Email Servers Thank you. I will be opening a ticket with them to have it change. Biggest issue we have is that the number of false spam complaints due to the nature

Re: [mailop] Debt Collection Client Email Servers

2024-03-24 Thread Michael Irvine via mailop
Original message From: Michael Peddemors via mailop Date: 3/22/24 17:09 (GMT-06:00) To: mailop@mailop.org Subject: Re: [mailop] Debt Collection Client Email Servers CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click any links or open attachments unless you recognize

Re: [mailop] Debt Collection Client Email Servers

2024-03-22 Thread Michael Peddemors via mailop
If they are 'dedicated', doesn't matter if they are coming from SendGrid, the PTR should reflect your clients domain. host 149.72.234.90 90.234.72.149.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer wrqvzxrx.outbound-mail.sendgrid.net. And given the amount of abuse of SendGrid servers, anything you can do