Re: VIRGIL: Re:chiasmus vs interlocked word order

1999-02-24 Thread Timothy Mallon
Maybe it would help to explain the difference by saying that the interlocking pattern arises from propagating a pattern unit down the text, whereas chiasmus arises from propagating a reflected or inverted version of the unit: ab + ab versus ab + ab(inverted) = ab + ba Tim ...

VIRGIL: source of quotation please

1999-02-24 Thread Simon Cauchi
This is probably not Virgil, since it's clearly the second line of an elegiac couplet, but I've had no success in tracing the source of this line. Help from a classicist will be much appreciated: "Sic mihi contingat vivere sicque mori." Simon Cauchi, Freelance Editor and Indexer, Hamilton, New Zea

VIRGIL: Re:chiasmus vs interlocked word order

1999-02-24 Thread freitas
How can I fully explain the difference in chiasmus and interlocked word order? I have plenty of textbook definitions but a few of my students are bent on confusing the two (especially it seems in Ovid). Any suggestions? Thanks, Lorri --

Re: VIRGIL: pity in the Aen.

1999-02-24 Thread David Wilson-Okamura
From: "Jim O'Hara" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 10:55:49 -0500 (EST) See Christine Perkell's Georgics book, which has much on pity in Geo. and some on Aeneid; also her article in TAPA a few years ago on Eclogue 1 James J. O'Hara Jim O'Hara Profe

Re: VIRGIL: pity in the Aen.

1999-02-24 Thread David Wilson-Okamura
At 08:37 AM 2/24/99 -0600, Judy Conway wrote: >Has anyone written about pity in the Aenied. There's Nisus and Euryalus and >his mother, Dido of course, and a certain amount for Turnus. Any other >suggestions? You'll probably get a lot of advice on this, but here are a couple places to look: - H

VIRGIL: pity in the Aen.

1999-02-24 Thread David Wilson-Okamura
From: "Judy Conway" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 08:20:49 -0500 Has anyone written about pity in the Aenied. There's Nisus and Euryalus and his mother, Dido of course, and a certain amount for Turnus. Any other suggestions? Thank you Judy Conway [EMAIL PROTECTED] -

Re: VIRGIL: Re: FACETIAE VERGILIANAE & return from exile

1999-02-24 Thread Leofranc Holford-Strevens
Many thanks to Peter for that bright start to the day. I can only riposte with Porson's mnemonic for the cases of the gerund, in which too the Latin words must be pronounced as if they were English: When Dido saw Aeneas would not come, She killed herself, and then was Di do dum. Not perhaps in su

VIRGIL: Re: FACETIAE VERGILIANAE & return from exile

1999-02-24 Thread Peter Bryant
Dear Mantovani, I am back online after four very frustrating months.I missed the Virgilian discussions more than I can say. To celebrate my return from exile in the cultural wasteland