Re: VIRGIL: source of quotation please

1999-02-25 Thread RANDI C ELDEVIK
I don't have time to go through all Ovid's _Heroides_ and _Amores_ right now, but that's where I would start looking. Hope this pans out. Randi Eldevik Oklahoma State University On Thu, 25 Feb 1999, Simon Cauchi wrote: This is probably not Virgil, since it's clearly the second line of an

Re: VIRGIL: regenerate religion

1999-02-25 Thread M W Hughes
I was thinking of Austin's remark that Aeneas' vision of the gods during the Fall of Troy shows them in demonic form. There is indeed something extraordinarily shocking about seeing 'the Father himself' (l.617) so committed to destruction. Yet Aeneas and his family do not hesitate in the next

Re: VIRGIL: regenerate religion

1999-02-25 Thread David Wilson-Okamura
At 10:37 PM 2/25/99 +, Martin Hughes wrote: V does seem to agree that the religious mind is often full of terrors, and for this reason he was read as an atheist by some eighteenth century scholars (to whom I was introduced by reading Gibbon's essay on Book VI). As

Re: VIRGIL: source of quotation please

1999-02-25 Thread Dan King
I can't find it as yet, but Amores i.3.18 is rather similar, so it's probably Ovid, but I'm pretty sure it's not Amores Dan King -- From: Simon Cauchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: VIRGIL: source of quotation please Date: Thursday, February 25, 1999 4:09 AM This

Re: VIRGIL: source of quotation please

1999-02-25 Thread Leofranc Holford-Strevens
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dan King [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes I can't find it as yet, but Amores i.3.18 is rather similar, so it's probably Ovid, but I'm pretty sure it's not Amores Neither have I found it yet, but what classical author writes 'sicque'? Leofranc Holford-Strevens

Re: VIRGIL: source of quotation please

1999-02-25 Thread Simon Cauchi
Re: Sic mihi contingat vivere sicque mori. Leofranc Holford-Strevens writes: Neither have I found it yet, but what classical author writes 'sicque'? Good point. This suggests (and, sorry, I should have mentioned it) that the line may be from a neo-Latin poem. The quotation concludes the Life of

VIRGIL: Aeneid Translation

1999-02-25 Thread John Gibney
Does anyone know of any websites that help students literally translate the Aeneid? I heard rumors of websites that with the magical click of the mouse help identify odd forms and display the meaning of the words. This could be an invaluable tool in learning. Knowing the tricky grammatical

Re: VIRGIL: Aeneid Translation

1999-02-25 Thread David Wilson-Okamura
At 07:27 PM 2/25/99 PST, you wrote: Does anyone know of any websites that help students literally translate the Aeneid? I heard rumors of websites that with the magical click of the mouse help identify odd forms and display the meaning of the words. This could be an invaluable tool in