Re: VIRGIL: Re: Sortes

1999-08-04 Thread M W Hughes
I suppose that it's hard, if you regard a book as in some way a fount of wisdom, not be impressed or jolted if you open it at a passage which engages with your mood, wishes or fears. Certainly I find this. There is rather a good study of the matter in M.R.James' short story 'The Ash Tree' -

Re: VIRGIL: Re: Sortes

1999-08-04 Thread Dr Helen Conrad
James was always good with the apt biblical quote - as was Sayers. A nice ironic twist with the Stratagems - so very Jamesian. It seems from the response that the sortes have dies out - or are people to shy to discuss their present day use? Helen Conrad-O'Briain

Re: VIRGIL: Re: Sortes

1999-08-04 Thread David Wilson-Okamura
At 02:26 PM 8/4/99 +0100, Helen Conrad-O'Briain wrote: It seems from the response that the sortes have dies out - or are people to shy to discuss their present day use? The following story may be apocryphal; as I recall, it was recounted by my sixth-grade teacher as an admonition AGAINST using

Re: VIRGIL: Re: Sortes

1999-08-04 Thread Timothy Mallon
Since the subject came up ... there is the poem Sortes Vergilianae in John Ashbery's _The Double Dream of Spring_. I've never caught the connection between this poem and its title, but then, in Ashbery that relationship can be oblique.