Re: VIRGIL: (NOT) paid for propaganda?

1999-03-18 Thread parcob
Dear Professor O'Hara, Thank you very very much. Helen COB --- To leave the Mantovano mailing list at any time, do NOT hit reply. Instead, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message unsubscribe mantovano in the body

Re: VIRGIL: (NOT) paid for propaganda?

1999-03-17 Thread parcob
Richard Thomas' forthcoming book Which press? When? Helen COB --- To leave the Mantovano mailing list at any time, do NOT hit reply. Instead, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message unsubscribe mantovano in the body

Re: VIRGIL: Re: pietas and furor in the 'Aeneid'

1999-03-07 Thread parcob
Before anything else I think it is important that we recognise this as formally a type scene - the recognition of a piece of equipment re-ignites hatred and battle - the locus classicus for this in Norse and Old English is the Ingeld- Starkathr episode, this said, it is clearly up to the

Re: VIRGIL: REPLY REQUIRED: The Classics Pages Subscription Verify (fwd)

1999-03-07 Thread parcob
Yes, please, put me on the list! Helen Conrad-O'Briain --- To leave the Mantovano mailing list at any time, do NOT hit reply. Instead, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message unsubscribe mantovano in the body (omitting

Re: VIRGIL: The Fourth Eclogue and Raymond Brown

1998-12-11 Thread parcob
Dear Mr. Wiersum, I do not know to what extent your curiosity has been piqued by this material, but you may want to look at : Courcelle, Pierre, 'Les Exégèses Chrétiennes de la Quatrième Églogue,' Revue desÉtudes Anciennes 59 (1957), 294-319. The following is a brief discussion

Re: VIRGIL: sand without bottom

1998-10-26 Thread parcob
Dear David, Well Hagen and Thilo have had to go back to UCD, so all I can do is give you the places where Agrippa or sand is mentioned in Servius from Montford and Shultz, although you have probably gone through Servius already. Agrippa = G.2:162;3:29;A.1:292; 6:6128:682, 693; harena =

Re: VIRGIL: Roman Difficulty with Latin

1998-10-18 Thread parcob
Yes, please send copy! Dr. Helen Conrad-O'Briain School of English Arts Block Trinity College Dublin 2, Ireland --- To leave the Mantovano mailing list at any time, do NOT hit reply.

Re: VIRGIL: Looking for info on the language of women in Aeneid

1998-09-14 Thread parcob
Take a look at Star's article: 'Explaining Dido to Your Son: Tiberius Claudius Donatus on Vergil's Dido,' CJ 87 (1991), 25-34. H. Conrad-O'Briain --- To leave the Mantovano mailing list at any time, do NOT hit reply.

Re: VIRGIL: Jefferson's Virgil

1998-09-14 Thread parcob
Have you tried Monticello and the Library of Congress? I rather suspect that it would still be at Monticello, although he sold most of his library to Congress. Can anyone recall the article on Jefferson and Homer which was published in the last year or two - there might be some leads there - also

Re: VIRGIL: Re:VIRGIL :The sack of Rome

1998-08-18 Thread parcob
Dear Mr. Brubek, Interestingly enough in the Vita Sylvestri Rome does appear to Constantine as an old woman waiting to be renewed. I only have the Aldhelm text here at the moment from De virginitate 'apparuit ei in visione nocturna quaedam anicula satis decrepita , etiam paene mortua'

Re: VIRGIL: RE: Panegyric Re Natural Law and Law of Nations

1998-07-23 Thread parcob
I am still digesting the material which has come down the line from Leofranc et al. on this topic, but I would like to throw in one small caveat, leaving sympathy and emotion aside, there is a developing idea of natural law/justice versus custom or the law of individual nations, which I believe

Re: VIRGIL: RE: Panegyric

1998-07-16 Thread parcob
I think what we see here is the historically observable tendency for the 'leading' genre of a period to subsume roles and even other genres. Epic had a head start on this since ancient theorists apparently derived most other genres from the epic - even pastoral. HCOB

Re: VIRGIL: romanitas; colonial vs. postcolonial epic

1998-07-15 Thread parcob
I think it is worth noting that an Etruscan ancestry apparently had a certain cachet - Maecenas, as I recall, was supposedly proud of it - I think the quote is in Horace - and the Claudians were pointedly Sabine. This is slightly off the topic, but I think we should note that find fairly frequent

Re: VIRGIL: text of Virgil in the middle ages

1998-06-24 Thread parcob
I have looked at this problem while working on the Hermathena article and in connection with Aldhelm's Vergil text - on which I hope someday to publish, if I live so long - I cannot speak to the later period. I have only worked with the circle of Boniface and Aldhelm and Bede. We do not have a

Re: VIRGIL: Virgil's view of the Underworld

1998-06-22 Thread parcob
I was teaching the Aeneid in a summers session on classical literature in translation, and one of my students asked if Virgil originated his view of an Underworld that seems to contain a precursor of the Christian Hell, or if it already existed in Roman culture. Does anyone have an answer?

VIRGIL: e-mail addresses and the Harvard Servius

1998-05-27 Thread parcob
Dear List, Are there any Harvard people out there who would very kindly let me know what the present state of play is with the Harvard Servius? Does anyone have Charles Murgia's e-mail number and/or David Daintree's? Helen Conrad-O'Briain

Re: VIRGIL: Combined University Presses

1998-05-27 Thread parcob
Thank you so much - Helen Conrad-O'Briain --- To leave the Mantovano mailing list at any time, do NOT hit reply. You will just prove to everyone that you can't read directions. Instead, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the

Re: VIRGIL: web sites

1998-05-23 Thread parcob
Dear David et al. Yesterday, checking early printings of Vergil with commentary in EPB here at Trinity I spent a couple hours with a 1480 printing of Vergil plus the Vulgate Servius which was once in the collection of a Claud Gilbert. The book was in places heaviliy annotated by at least

Re: VIRGIL: Virgilio e i suoi amici

1998-05-03 Thread parcob
Dear David, If you do not have inter-library loan facilities, another route is to write the publishing institution and ask if they have off-prints for sale. While on the subject, everyone - this is something I really ought to know, but have never quite cracked - is there a equivalent for

VIRGIL: Table of Contents Vergil commetaries

1998-05-02 Thread parcob
Dear List, As promised more than a while ago here is the table of contents of my handbook on the earlier phase of the Vergilian commentaries. Please feel free to make suggestions. A Handbook of Vergillian Criticism in Manuscript with Insular Symptoms to 1000 Introduction Table of Abbreviations

Re: VIRGIL: Context of A snake lurks in the grass

1998-04-28 Thread parcob
I can't tell you much about where it comes from, but it is a fairly popular quote in the middle ages - it is even turns up in der wilde Alexander! Helen Conrad-O'Briain --- To leave the Mantovano mailing list at any time, do NOT

Re: VIRGIL: nemo Hercule, nemo

1998-04-28 Thread parcob
Randi, I have a funny feeling this is Juvenal, but I'm at home and I don't have a Juvenal - although I just bought a Leipzig Quintillian for 40p at the Trinity booksale! Looking in Lewis and Short, I see Juvenal 2.83 as well as Martial 1.40 quoted for a short o in nemo It isn't in