Re: VIRGIL: RE: Vergil's name

2002-08-06 Thread Samuel P. Cole
--- You wrote: In the case of Vergil, it seems clear (assuming we identify the person named as the poet) that Horace in Odes I.3 calls Vergil Vergil. So perhaps it is as simple a thing as what people called these writers in ancient times. I doubt that the Romans consistently called all people by

Re: VIRGIL: RE: Vergil's name

2002-08-06 Thread mykola zerov
i agree with u entirely From: Helen Conrad-O'Briain [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: VIRGIL: RE: Vergil's name Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 21:05:30 + I won't even attempt to scan Horace, but could it be a question of meter that he uses he one rather

RE: VIRGIL: RE: Vergil's name

2002-08-06 Thread Patrick Roper
Virgil was highly regarded in medieval Wales and in Welsh his name comes out as 'Pheryllt' or 'fferyll' and variants. However, the first vowel always seems to be 'e', though an 'i' is possible in Welsh. I imagine names were often recorded as heard, rather than as read, which could account for

VIRGIL: RE: Vergil's name

2002-08-05 Thread Samuel P. Cole
This one isn't quite so obscure. I believe that the i spelling came to be in the 5th century AD (http://www.bartleby.com/65/ve/Vergil.html), when the Aeneid was used as a sort of magic 8-ball. People would randomly open the Aeneid and interpret the first line upon which their eyes fell. The

Re: VIRGIL: RE: Vergil's name

2002-08-05 Thread Stuart Wheeler
I don't think there is any rhyme or reason why we use the nomen for some authors and the cognomen for others. We don't, for instance, call Ovid Naso. We don't call Horace Flaccus. And we could find any number of other instances in which this use of nomen rather than cognomen is our preferred