Hi Neil,
Thanks for the immediate comments...
The reason I am asking this question; There is a big military tender, they
actually mixed up some tender documents that defines, ESRI, Intergraph and
surprisingly GenaMap and MapInfo... So the trouble is to answer most of the
questions I need to bring in lots of add-ons (such as RouteView, RouteX, and
possible FME data translator or GeoGateway from PCI...) But still long way to
go.
But this Oracle 8i thing... Oracle Turkey is kind of "Let me send you the
brochures..." So I tought somebody might have gone through some of this before.
As you only commented on 8i - Raster Map issue; I am going on with it.
As I know Oracle can store raster easily I can't understand how MapInfo can not
address this area right away. Even PCI guys told me that they fully work with
8i, which means they can live with raster on 8i.
As this is the vacations period, I had trouble finding the right guy in Europe.
So I hope Brian or John can help us on this.
For the trial idea... yes it is certainly a way, but there is a tender I have to
catch and I can't spend that time trying to figure-out, as I am not a very good
Oracle expert. Therefore I need a product specialist, possibly from MapInfo -
Troy, just to reveal this issue..
If SpatialWare is the right answer for that, I wouldn't mind sticking with it.
So my questions are still there to be answered by me ;-))
Best Regards,
Alim.
Neil Havermale wrote:
> We have been chasing our DOD and its National Image and Mapping Agency
> (NIMA) for nearly three years.
>
> About a year ago after many months of effort we were able to essentially win
> a DOD-NIMA technology search known as Pathfinder. Pathfinder was a
> multi-million dollar hunt for spatial multimedia solutions. We did this
> with out own whit's and use of MapX technology
> (http://www.redhensystems.com/vms). MapInfo was not a great help during
> this process although several individuals in Troy encouraged our efforts -
> thanks Mike and Andy!
>
> I offer the following as a review.
>
> Recently I re-contacted MapInfo regarding our DOD and Pathfinder win. I was
> told that for any DOD/Oracle issues we needed to contact Brian Lantz. Our
> VAR manager said Brian can best assist in determining the individuals and
> resources necessary to support you and your/our opportunity. Brian has been
> with MapInfo a long time and opened MapInfo's Federal office in Washington,
> DC. Currently he is mostly dedicated to Oracle things in general and due
> his background with the Federal effort, is the right guy for any Federal or
> governmental Oracle connections. I would call him the MapInfo/Oracle
> "expediter". Another live-wire technically is John McCarthy who is a member
> of the MapInfo Oracle Team as well and is involved with most, if not all,
> NIMA opportunities.
>
> As far as I can determine 8i is very likely the only database that could
> support the massive imagery and other "raster" formats used by our DOD and
> likely NATO. The rumor we get is NIMA is a BIG Oracle 8i user. Can we
> store and recall TABed rasters in it?
>
> Dealing with Oracle is very confusing. Its such a powerful environment with
> seemingly endless add-ons and features I have yet to sort it out. And by
> the time you do sort it out the next release changes just about everything
> you learned.
>
> What I have discovered is there are 8i Enterprise Data Cartridges (index
> systems) for: images, video, audio, very large text objects, and what they
> call locator or spatial. These "objectized" cartridges revolutionize the
> traditional database. They are individually complex and are only
> integrateable via an Enterprise scale 8i. Interestingly, as of the 29th of
> July Oracle apparently includes a scaled down interMEDIA that is a
> all-in-one "Jr" version of these larger data cartridges.
>
> "Oracle interMedia, shipping with the new Oracle 8i release of the database
> server, builds on the Internet capabilities of 8i, combining the forces of
> audio, video, text, image, and locator technologies to help customers manage
> their important digital assets."
>
> For images in particular interMEDIA suggests:
>
> "Support for reading tiled TIFF images, and updated implementation of JPEG
> compression for TIFF files; and'
>
> "Enhanced JPEG support (new setProperties method support for progressively
> encoded JPEG images)"
>
> And Oracle as of 7/29/2000 says that:
>
> MapInfo Professional is a client-server solution that uses Oracle Call
> Interface to connect to Oracle 8i; an example of a traditional SQL
> connectivity used by developers who seek highly efficient connections with
> the Oracle server.
>
> Similar to MapInfo Professional, MapX uses client-server OCI connection with
> Oracle 8i to "edit and display spatial images".
>
> MapXtreme is the new generation product from MapInfo which utilizes 100%
> Java to connect to Oracle 8i. In version 1.1, MapInfo provides a snap-in
> component called a data provider which connects to database via JDBC. In
> version 2.0, the data provider module in MapXtreme will be moved into the
> database as Enterprise JavaBeans.
>
> Has this answered your questions? Not. I spent two hours digging this out
> as I too am interested in answers to your questions. As you can see there
> is no direct path - other than maybe mapinfo-l. Best might be to simply buy
> the "Evaluation" CDs for like $99 and try it yourself or maybe Brian or John
> can answer this?
>
> http://www.nima.mil/
>
> MidNight Mapper
> aka Neil
> 7/29/00
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alim Kucukpehlivan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2000 6:02 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: MI Questions for a military tender..
>
> Hi There,
>
> It had been a long time... I hope all is well..
>
> this is the first of a series of questions:
>
> 1. There is a tender for Military, I am looking for Nato Symbol libraries...
> (all kinds TTF or CAD based, or GIF)... Any hints wellcome...
>
> 2. Does anybody know that Oracle 8i Spatial can store Raster maps? or how we
> can load raster maps on Oracle and serve them to MapInfo clients, along with
> other vector files.
>
> Best Regards,
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Alim Kucukpehlivan
> Managing Director.
> MapInfo Partner in Turkey.
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