Re: fyi, branch-3.4.3

2026-01-11 Thread Istvan Toth
Thanks for clarifying this @Steve Loughran  .



On Fri, Jan 9, 2026 at 12:40 PM Steve Loughran  wrote:

> 3.4.3 fork exists and is going to be java8, and a mostly maintenance
> release, with updated dependencies
>
> I've already attempted one RC, blocked by arm builds playing up on my
> laptop. Next week I'm just going to get an arm6s4 linux VM on ec2 and do
> the docker run from inside it. If it wasn't for the npm problems, there's
> already be an RC0 out.
>
> the 3.5.0 release is going to be the one with bigger changes
>
> I'd rather that 3.4.3 goes out asap, with no more fundamental changes. And
> ideally: that to be the last of the 3.4.x line, though dependency security
> issues means that's unrealistic.
>
> -1 to this change in branch-3.4.3
> =0 to it in branch-3.4. When you backport you'll discover junit5 to 4
> migration the pain point.
>
>
> On Fri, 9 Jan 2026 at 08:02, Istvan Toth  wrote:
>
> > What's the current consensus WRT Java 25 support in 3.4.3 ?
> >
> > Spark and other downstream projects want at least the
> > SubjectInhertitingThread changes in 3.4.3 so that they can run their
> Hadoop
> > dependent
> > tests (and production) with Java 25 ASAP.
> >
> > Ideally, we'd have CI tests for Java 25 for trunk, and then backport
> > everything required for Java 25 support to branch-3.4 and add Java 25
> tests
> > there as well,
> > but that would take quite a lot of time, as we don't even have Java 25 CI
> > set up for trunk yet, and more than a dozen changes would need to be
> > backported to branch-3.4 to fix all tests and corner cases with Java 25.
> >
> > I can probably make the time to backport the SubjectInhertitingThread
> > changes next week to branch-3.4 if there is consensus on merging them
> > there.
> >
> > Istvan
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 7, 2026 at 11:53 AM Steve Loughran 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > same task, same issue.
> > >
> > > YARN-11712. Yarn-ui build fails in ARM docker looking for python2.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, 6 Jan 2026 at 02:25, Xiaoqiao He 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Steve, is this the same thread as
> > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread/1wg81psv7pbrd9l2osjv3rgp0kxqdb8n?
> > > >
> > > > Best Regards,
> > > > - He Xiaoqiao
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Jan 6, 2026 at 10:07 AM slfan1989 
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Thanks for the update.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'll give it a try and aim to fix it. That said, I need to set up
> (or
> > > get
> > > > > access to) a proper arm environment first, so it might take a few
> > days
> > > > > before I can test and push a patch.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'll try to move as quickly as possible and will keep you posted on
> > > > > progress.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hopefully it goes smoothly once I get the setup sorted!
> > > > >
> > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > Shilun Fan.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Jan 6, 2026 at 1:53 AM Steve Loughran  >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > If you can get that arm docker build working, it'd be great. I'd
> > > > thought
> > > > > > the .lock files would fix the dependencies so we wouldn't need
> > > python2
> > > > on
> > > > > > the command line, but it's come back again
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, 5 Jan 2026 at 14:37, slfan1989 
> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I hope I can be of help in assisting with the release of
> > > > Hadoop-3.4.3.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > > > Shilun Fan.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 5, 2026 at 10:32 PM Steve Loughran <
> > > [email protected]>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Branch-3.4.3 has been made, i hope to push out an RC in a few
> > > days
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I do need some help though as the arm docker build fails
> with a
> > > > > problem
> > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > had before
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/YARN-11712
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > this is npm-related. Can anyon help
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > steve
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
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> > --
> >
>


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Re: fyi, branch-3.4.3

2026-01-09 Thread Steve Loughran
3.4.3 fork exists and is going to be java8, and a mostly maintenance
release, with updated dependencies

I've already attempted one RC, blocked by arm builds playing up on my
laptop. Next week I'm just going to get an arm6s4 linux VM on ec2 and do
the docker run from inside it. If it wasn't for the npm problems, there's
already be an RC0 out.

the 3.5.0 release is going to be the one with bigger changes

I'd rather that 3.4.3 goes out asap, with no more fundamental changes. And
ideally: that to be the last of the 3.4.x line, though dependency security
issues means that's unrealistic.

-1 to this change in branch-3.4.3
=0 to it in branch-3.4. When you backport you'll discover junit5 to 4
migration the pain point.


On Fri, 9 Jan 2026 at 08:02, Istvan Toth  wrote:

> What's the current consensus WRT Java 25 support in 3.4.3 ?
>
> Spark and other downstream projects want at least the
> SubjectInhertitingThread changes in 3.4.3 so that they can run their Hadoop
> dependent
> tests (and production) with Java 25 ASAP.
>
> Ideally, we'd have CI tests for Java 25 for trunk, and then backport
> everything required for Java 25 support to branch-3.4 and add Java 25 tests
> there as well,
> but that would take quite a lot of time, as we don't even have Java 25 CI
> set up for trunk yet, and more than a dozen changes would need to be
> backported to branch-3.4 to fix all tests and corner cases with Java 25.
>
> I can probably make the time to backport the SubjectInhertitingThread
> changes next week to branch-3.4 if there is consensus on merging them
> there.
>
> Istvan
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 7, 2026 at 11:53 AM Steve Loughran 
> wrote:
>
> > same task, same issue.
> >
> > YARN-11712. Yarn-ui build fails in ARM docker looking for python2.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 6 Jan 2026 at 02:25, Xiaoqiao He  wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Steve, is this the same thread as
> > > https://lists.apache.org/thread/1wg81psv7pbrd9l2osjv3rgp0kxqdb8n?
> > >
> > > Best Regards,
> > > - He Xiaoqiao
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jan 6, 2026 at 10:07 AM slfan1989 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thanks for the update.
> > > >
> > > > I'll give it a try and aim to fix it. That said, I need to set up (or
> > get
> > > > access to) a proper arm environment first, so it might take a few
> days
> > > > before I can test and push a patch.
> > > >
> > > > I'll try to move as quickly as possible and will keep you posted on
> > > > progress.
> > > >
> > > > Hopefully it goes smoothly once I get the setup sorted!
> > > >
> > > > Best Regards,
> > > > Shilun Fan.
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Jan 6, 2026 at 1:53 AM Steve Loughran 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > If you can get that arm docker build working, it'd be great. I'd
> > > thought
> > > > > the .lock files would fix the dependencies so we wouldn't need
> > python2
> > > on
> > > > > the command line, but it's come back again
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, 5 Jan 2026 at 14:37, slfan1989 
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I hope I can be of help in assisting with the release of
> > > Hadoop-3.4.3.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > > Shilun Fan.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Jan 5, 2026 at 10:32 PM Steve Loughran <
> > [email protected]>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Branch-3.4.3 has been made, i hope to push out an RC in a few
> > days
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I do need some help though as the arm docker build fails with a
> > > > problem
> > > > > > we
> > > > > > > had before
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/YARN-11712
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > this is npm-related. Can anyon help
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > steve
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
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> *Email*: [email protected]
> cloudera.com 
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Re: fyi, branch-3.4.3

2026-01-09 Thread Istvan Toth
What's the current consensus WRT Java 25 support in 3.4.3 ?

Spark and other downstream projects want at least the
SubjectInhertitingThread changes in 3.4.3 so that they can run their Hadoop
dependent
tests (and production) with Java 25 ASAP.

Ideally, we'd have CI tests for Java 25 for trunk, and then backport
everything required for Java 25 support to branch-3.4 and add Java 25 tests
there as well,
but that would take quite a lot of time, as we don't even have Java 25 CI
set up for trunk yet, and more than a dozen changes would need to be
backported to branch-3.4 to fix all tests and corner cases with Java 25.

I can probably make the time to backport the SubjectInhertitingThread
changes next week to branch-3.4 if there is consensus on merging them there.

Istvan


On Wed, Jan 7, 2026 at 11:53 AM Steve Loughran  wrote:

> same task, same issue.
>
> YARN-11712. Yarn-ui build fails in ARM docker looking for python2.
>
>
> On Tue, 6 Jan 2026 at 02:25, Xiaoqiao He  wrote:
>
> > Hi Steve, is this the same thread as
> > https://lists.apache.org/thread/1wg81psv7pbrd9l2osjv3rgp0kxqdb8n?
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > - He Xiaoqiao
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 6, 2026 at 10:07 AM slfan1989  wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks for the update.
> > >
> > > I'll give it a try and aim to fix it. That said, I need to set up (or
> get
> > > access to) a proper arm environment first, so it might take a few days
> > > before I can test and push a patch.
> > >
> > > I'll try to move as quickly as possible and will keep you posted on
> > > progress.
> > >
> > > Hopefully it goes smoothly once I get the setup sorted!
> > >
> > > Best Regards,
> > > Shilun Fan.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jan 6, 2026 at 1:53 AM Steve Loughran 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > If you can get that arm docker build working, it'd be great. I'd
> > thought
> > > > the .lock files would fix the dependencies so we wouldn't need
> python2
> > on
> > > > the command line, but it's come back again
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 5 Jan 2026 at 14:37, slfan1989  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I hope I can be of help in assisting with the release of
> > Hadoop-3.4.3.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > Shilun Fan.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Jan 5, 2026 at 10:32 PM Steve Loughran <
> [email protected]>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Branch-3.4.3 has been made, i hope to push out an RC in a few
> days
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I do need some help though as the arm docker build fails with a
> > > problem
> > > > > we
> > > > > > had before
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/YARN-11712
> > > > > >
> > > > > > this is npm-related. Can anyon help
> > > > > >
> > > > > > steve
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>


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Re: fyi, branch-3.4.3

2026-01-07 Thread Steve Loughran
same task, same issue.

YARN-11712. Yarn-ui build fails in ARM docker looking for python2.


On Tue, 6 Jan 2026 at 02:25, Xiaoqiao He  wrote:

> Hi Steve, is this the same thread as
> https://lists.apache.org/thread/1wg81psv7pbrd9l2osjv3rgp0kxqdb8n?
>
> Best Regards,
> - He Xiaoqiao
>
> On Tue, Jan 6, 2026 at 10:07 AM slfan1989  wrote:
>
> > Thanks for the update.
> >
> > I'll give it a try and aim to fix it. That said, I need to set up (or get
> > access to) a proper arm environment first, so it might take a few days
> > before I can test and push a patch.
> >
> > I'll try to move as quickly as possible and will keep you posted on
> > progress.
> >
> > Hopefully it goes smoothly once I get the setup sorted!
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Shilun Fan.
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 6, 2026 at 1:53 AM Steve Loughran 
> wrote:
> >
> > > If you can get that arm docker build working, it'd be great. I'd
> thought
> > > the .lock files would fix the dependencies so we wouldn't need python2
> on
> > > the command line, but it's come back again
> > >
> > > On Mon, 5 Jan 2026 at 14:37, slfan1989  wrote:
> > >
> > > > I hope I can be of help in assisting with the release of
> Hadoop-3.4.3.
> > > >
> > > > Best Regards,
> > > > Shilun Fan.
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Jan 5, 2026 at 10:32 PM Steve Loughran 
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Branch-3.4.3 has been made, i hope to push out an RC in a few days
> > > > >
> > > > > I do need some help though as the arm docker build fails with a
> > problem
> > > > we
> > > > > had before
> > > > >
> > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/YARN-11712
> > > > >
> > > > > this is npm-related. Can anyon help
> > > > >
> > > > > steve
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>


Re: fyi, branch-3.4.3

2026-01-05 Thread Xiaoqiao He
Hi Steve, is this the same thread as
https://lists.apache.org/thread/1wg81psv7pbrd9l2osjv3rgp0kxqdb8n?

Best Regards,
- He Xiaoqiao

On Tue, Jan 6, 2026 at 10:07 AM slfan1989  wrote:

> Thanks for the update.
>
> I'll give it a try and aim to fix it. That said, I need to set up (or get
> access to) a proper arm environment first, so it might take a few days
> before I can test and push a patch.
>
> I'll try to move as quickly as possible and will keep you posted on
> progress.
>
> Hopefully it goes smoothly once I get the setup sorted!
>
> Best Regards,
> Shilun Fan.
>
> On Tue, Jan 6, 2026 at 1:53 AM Steve Loughran  wrote:
>
> > If you can get that arm docker build working, it'd be great. I'd thought
> > the .lock files would fix the dependencies so we wouldn't need python2 on
> > the command line, but it's come back again
> >
> > On Mon, 5 Jan 2026 at 14:37, slfan1989  wrote:
> >
> > > I hope I can be of help in assisting with the release of Hadoop-3.4.3.
> > >
> > > Best Regards,
> > > Shilun Fan.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jan 5, 2026 at 10:32 PM Steve Loughran 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Branch-3.4.3 has been made, i hope to push out an RC in a few days
> > > >
> > > > I do need some help though as the arm docker build fails with a
> problem
> > > we
> > > > had before
> > > >
> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/YARN-11712
> > > >
> > > > this is npm-related. Can anyon help
> > > >
> > > > steve
> > > >
> > >
> >
>


Re: fyi, branch-3.4.3

2026-01-05 Thread slfan1989
Thanks for the update.

I'll give it a try and aim to fix it. That said, I need to set up (or get
access to) a proper arm environment first, so it might take a few days
before I can test and push a patch.

I'll try to move as quickly as possible and will keep you posted on
progress.

Hopefully it goes smoothly once I get the setup sorted!

Best Regards,
Shilun Fan.

On Tue, Jan 6, 2026 at 1:53 AM Steve Loughran  wrote:

> If you can get that arm docker build working, it'd be great. I'd thought
> the .lock files would fix the dependencies so we wouldn't need python2 on
> the command line, but it's come back again
>
> On Mon, 5 Jan 2026 at 14:37, slfan1989  wrote:
>
> > I hope I can be of help in assisting with the release of Hadoop-3.4.3.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Shilun Fan.
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 5, 2026 at 10:32 PM Steve Loughran 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Branch-3.4.3 has been made, i hope to push out an RC in a few days
> > >
> > > I do need some help though as the arm docker build fails with a problem
> > we
> > > had before
> > >
> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/YARN-11712
> > >
> > > this is npm-related. Can anyon help
> > >
> > > steve
> > >
> >
>


Re: fyi, branch-3.4.3

2026-01-05 Thread Steve Loughran
If you can get that arm docker build working, it'd be great. I'd thought
the .lock files would fix the dependencies so we wouldn't need python2 on
the command line, but it's come back again

On Mon, 5 Jan 2026 at 14:37, slfan1989  wrote:

> I hope I can be of help in assisting with the release of Hadoop-3.4.3.
>
> Best Regards,
> Shilun Fan.
>
> On Mon, Jan 5, 2026 at 10:32 PM Steve Loughran 
> wrote:
>
> > Branch-3.4.3 has been made, i hope to push out an RC in a few days
> >
> > I do need some help though as the arm docker build fails with a problem
> we
> > had before
> >
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/YARN-11712
> >
> > this is npm-related. Can anyon help
> >
> > steve
> >
>


Re: fyi, branch-3.4.3

2026-01-05 Thread slfan1989
I hope I can be of help in assisting with the release of Hadoop-3.4.3.

Best Regards,
Shilun Fan.

On Mon, Jan 5, 2026 at 10:32 PM Steve Loughran  wrote:

> Branch-3.4.3 has been made, i hope to push out an RC in a few days
>
> I do need some help though as the arm docker build fails with a problem we
> had before
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/YARN-11712
>
> this is npm-related. Can anyon help
>
> steve
>