Re: [mapserver-users] MapServer on Intel Atom?

2009-01-13 Thread Milo van der Linden

Just out of curiosity,

With what reason would you like to have a mapserver on a mobile device? 
I assume mostly to have some sort of localhost connection from a local 
application, and in that case, I would opt for a solution where one can 
for instance download raster-tiles from a server to the mobile device 
that are then used by the application through more simplified functions, 
for vector the same procedure, download vectors and make them available 
through libraries. Installing a httpserver with mapserver as a cgi app 
sounds like a bit of overkill. Perhaps the mobile app can simply use 
gdal and ogr libraries.





Dan Little wrote:

I agree with where Jukka is going...  Raster layers are usually pretty fast so 
long as they are tuned correctly.


- Original Message 
  

From: Rahkonen Jukka jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi
To: kreshna_icehe...@yahoo.com; mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 6:04:07 AM
Subject: Re: [mapserver-users] MapServer on Intel Atom?

Hi,

You say that your raster layer is slower than vector layers, but do you feel it 
is too slow?  Your image should be served pretty fast by Mapserver.  The key is 
that tiff file is tiled (for zoom-in situation) and that it has overviews (for 
zoom-out case). Could you send the gdalinfo report about your image if you 
suffer from slowness?


-Jukka Rahkonen-



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Lähetetty: 13. tammikuuta 2009 12:35
Vastaanottaja: mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org; Dan Little
Aihe: Re: [mapserver-users] MapServer on Intel Atom?

Hi, thanks.

The vectors are quite simple. I've never experienced slow 
down when displayed vector data, not even on an old Toshiba 
M20 laptop.


Raster, on the other hand, is always the biggest problem. 
Compared to polygons, my raster is always slower to zoom, to 
pan, etc (despite the size is only 500 Mb). Is displaying 
raster more CPU-intensive or memory-intensive? If I'm using 
Intel Atom, will my raster be affected severely?


Also, can using bigger RAM (let say, 2GB or so) compensate 
for the lack of processing power of Intel Atom?


Thanks again,
-Kresh


--- On Mon, 1/12/09, Dan Little wrote:

  
From: Dan Little 
Subject: Re: [mapserver-users] MapServer on Intel Atom?

To: kreshna_icehe...@yahoo.com, mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org
Date: Monday, January 12, 2009, 9:18 PM I think the atom 

will be more 
  

than adequate... depending on the dataset. :-)

Serving 100 points is significantly less intensive than serving 100 
city-boundary polygons.



(Oops forgot to send to the list)


- Original Message 


From: kreshna_icehe...@yahoo.com
  
To: mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org

Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 8:09:15 PM
Subject: [mapserver-users] MapServer on Intel Atom?

I'll be doing a lot of MapServer demo in the
  

future. I'm quite interested in


Intel Atom-based subnotebooks for the purpose (like
  

Lenovo IdeaPad S10), since


they are light and mobile.

However, I wonder if Intel Atom is adequate to run
  

MapServer. The MapServer will


be run on either ms4w on Windows XP, or directly on
  

Linux. The layers are stored


on postGIS (there are fifteen layers or so), and there
  

is also a 476 megabytes


raster file in .TIFF format.

Will Intel Atom be adequate for the purpose? Will 2GB
  

of memory help? Has anyone


ever done such thing before?

Many thanks,
-Kresh


 
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Re: [mapserver-users] MapServer on Intel Atom?

2009-01-13 Thread Milo van der Linden
Oops, sorry. Should have read the initial post, for demonstration 
purposes, using datasets that are not to big sounds possible to me.


Dan Little wrote:

I agree with where Jukka is going...  Raster layers are usually pretty fast so 
long as they are tuned correctly.


- Original Message 
  

From: Rahkonen Jukka jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi
To: kreshna_icehe...@yahoo.com; mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 6:04:07 AM
Subject: Re: [mapserver-users] MapServer on Intel Atom?

Hi,

You say that your raster layer is slower than vector layers, but do you feel it 
is too slow?  Your image should be served pretty fast by Mapserver.  The key is 
that tiff file is tiled (for zoom-in situation) and that it has overviews (for 
zoom-out case). Could you send the gdalinfo report about your image if you 
suffer from slowness?


-Jukka Rahkonen-



-Alkuperäinen viesti-
Lähettäjä: mapserver-users-boun...@lists.osgeo.org 
[mailto:mapserver-users-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] Puolesta 
kreshna_icehe...@yahoo.com

Lähetetty: 13. tammikuuta 2009 12:35
Vastaanottaja: mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org; Dan Little
Aihe: Re: [mapserver-users] MapServer on Intel Atom?

Hi, thanks.

The vectors are quite simple. I've never experienced slow 
down when displayed vector data, not even on an old Toshiba 
M20 laptop.


Raster, on the other hand, is always the biggest problem. 
Compared to polygons, my raster is always slower to zoom, to 
pan, etc (despite the size is only 500 Mb). Is displaying 
raster more CPU-intensive or memory-intensive? If I'm using 
Intel Atom, will my raster be affected severely?


Also, can using bigger RAM (let say, 2GB or so) compensate 
for the lack of processing power of Intel Atom?


Thanks again,
-Kresh


--- On Mon, 1/12/09, Dan Little wrote:

  
From: Dan Little 
Subject: Re: [mapserver-users] MapServer on Intel Atom?

To: kreshna_icehe...@yahoo.com, mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org
Date: Monday, January 12, 2009, 9:18 PM I think the atom 

will be more 
  

than adequate... depending on the dataset. :-)

Serving 100 points is significantly less intensive than serving 100 
city-boundary polygons.



(Oops forgot to send to the list)


- Original Message 


From: kreshna_icehe...@yahoo.com
  
To: mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org

Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 8:09:15 PM
Subject: [mapserver-users] MapServer on Intel Atom?

I'll be doing a lot of MapServer demo in the
  

future. I'm quite interested in


Intel Atom-based subnotebooks for the purpose (like
  

Lenovo IdeaPad S10), since


they are light and mobile.

However, I wonder if Intel Atom is adequate to run
  

MapServer. The MapServer will


be run on either ms4w on Windows XP, or directly on
  

Linux. The layers are stored


on postGIS (there are fifteen layers or so), and there
  

is also a 476 megabytes


raster file in .TIFF format.

Will Intel Atom be adequate for the purpose? Will 2GB
  

of memory help? Has anyone


ever done such thing before?

Many thanks,
-Kresh


 
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[mapserver-users] MapServer on Intel Atom?

2009-01-12 Thread kreshna_icehe...@yahoo.com
I'll be doing a lot of MapServer demo in the future. I'm quite interested in 
Intel Atom-based subnotebooks for the purpose (like Lenovo IdeaPad S10), since 
they are light and mobile.

However, I wonder if Intel Atom is adequate to run MapServer. The MapServer 
will be run on either ms4w on Windows XP, or directly on Linux. The layers are 
stored on postGIS (there are fifteen layers or so), and there is also a 476 
megabytes raster file in .TIFF format.

Will Intel Atom be adequate for the purpose? Will 2GB of memory help? Has 
anyone ever done such thing before?

Many thanks,
-Kresh


  
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Re: [mapserver-users] MapServer on Intel Atom?

2009-01-12 Thread Dan Little
I think the atom will be more than adequate... depending on the dataset. :-)

Serving 100 points is significantly less intensive than serving 100 
city-boundary polygons.


(Oops forgot to send to the list)


- Original Message 
 From: kreshna_icehe...@yahoo.com kreshna_icehe...@yahoo.com
 To: mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org
 Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 8:09:15 PM
 Subject: [mapserver-users] MapServer on Intel Atom?
 
 I'll be doing a lot of MapServer demo in the future. I'm quite interested in 
 Intel Atom-based subnotebooks for the purpose (like Lenovo IdeaPad S10), 
 since 
 they are light and mobile.
 
 However, I wonder if Intel Atom is adequate to run MapServer. The MapServer 
 will 
 be run on either ms4w on Windows XP, or directly on Linux. The layers are 
 stored 
 on postGIS (there are fifteen layers or so), and there is also a 476 
 megabytes 
 raster file in .TIFF format.
 
 Will Intel Atom be adequate for the purpose? Will 2GB of memory help? Has 
 anyone 
 ever done such thing before?
 
 Many thanks,
 -Kresh
 
 
   
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