Re: Fixing Markdown Series @ Manuscripts News

[James Smits]

Marty, any relation to Galen? 

Dennis, I get what your saying about a version identifier, but it would be much 
more cost effective if the community agreed upon a standard (say, CommonMark, 
or whatever since it was proposed as such), and threw a big-fat-lint warning in 
front of whomever wrote non-conformant MarkDown.  Your solution puts the burden 
on the subscriber of a MarkDown blob (bit, squibble, rave, whatever you want to 
call it) to process it properly, while the burden should be on the publisher 
(assuming they want it to be consumed.) 

I don't know. Without tangentially philosophizing politics for too long,maybe 
it's  technocrats' responsibility to spackle the cracks in human-relations. 

In any event, if a MarkDown statement (?) could be passed around reliably via 
JSON or some other structure, then the "integrated" web we see today would at 
least bump a minor version number. 

Jim 

PS. As I write this, it occurred to me that this idea may target an outmoded 
form of Cumputer>Human interaction I.e. The keyboard. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 21, 2017, at 4:11 PM, Marty McGowan  wrote:
> 
> Dennis,
> 
>my interest in following this discussion, now that i see you here, just 
> went from observer, to tracker,   maybe even participant.
> 
>i'm an emacs orgmode user.  are you?i've used pandoc to convert *.org 
> to *.md (and some back again).   my criteria for using either:   OrgMode for 
> stuff not needing curating when i'm gone, Markdown for text I'd hope that 
> others will maintain.   in this latter category, i've collected the text from 
> my sister's genealogy work on Ancestry and am re-purposing it to live on 
> McGowans.Org
> 
>Here's a tally by suffix of the files in this legacy:
> 
>   1 m4
>  65 md
>  58 mkd
> 341 org
>   1 src
>  66 txt
> 
> where the mkd (certainly) and the txt (likely) are Markdown, with src and m4 
> each having a spot.   so, it's Orgmode 341,  Markdown 191.
> 
>any advice here?
> 
> Thanks,
> =*+*-  Marty McGowan  908 230-3739
> http://alum.mit.edu/www/mcgowan
> 
> p.s. bill and i had a live session yesterday about keybase, where i'm 
> applemcg.
> 
> On Tue, Jul 18, 2017, at 11:01, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
> > It seems to me that the first thing to handle is coming up with a means
> > for identifying the version/variant/dialect/fork of "markdown" that a
> > file is coded in.
> >
> > I have been thinking that a variant of #! Would do it, but that's not
> > quite what that is used for (since it confuses format and the application
> > that is expected to process it).  (I am looking at #? Myself, but don't
> > have a clear proposal at
> >
> > I still think something like that is called for.  Have a way of
> > identifying the format of the text and, ideally, leading to where the
> > rules and definition can be found.  Have it in a form that can be
> > ignored, and still be forgiving when there is no such information and a
> > consuming software does the best that can be figured out.
> >
> >  - Dennis
> >
> > PS: I am looking at #? myself, for leading format specifying line(s).
> > Don't have a clear description so far, but there's more thinking at
> > .  I will be using this for
> > some different formats that I want to introduce (having little or nothing
> > to do with markdown).
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Markdown-Discuss [mailto:markdown-discuss-
> > > boun...@six.pairlist.net] On Behalf Of Gerald Bauer
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 05:49
> > > To: Discussion related to Markdown. 
> > > Subject: Fixing Markdown Series @ Manuscripts News
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > First thanks for the great mailing list service. Since I'm just
> > > talking to myself here this will be my last post on markdown list
> > > (never say never ;-) Anyways, they never come back, don't they?
> > >
> > >
> > > If you follow along there are different ways to "fix" markdown:
> > >
> > [ ... ]
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Re: Fixing Markdown Series @ Manuscripts News

[Marty McGowan]

Dennis,

   my interest in following this discussion, now that i see you here, just went 
from observer, to tracker,   maybe even participant.
   i'm an emacs orgmode user.  are you?i've used pandoc to convert *.org to 
*.md (and some back again).   my criteria for using either:   OrgMode for stuff 
not needing curating when i'm gone, Markdown for text I'd hope that others will 
maintain.   in this latter category, i've collected the text from my sister's 
genealogy work on Ancestry and am re-purposing it to live on McGowans.Org
   Here's a tally by suffix of the files in this legacy:

  1 m4
 65 md
 58 mkd
341 org
  1 src
 66 txt

where the mkd (certainly) and the txt (likely) are Markdown, with src and m4 
each having a spot.   so, it's  Orgmode 341,  Markdown 191.
   any advice here?

Thanks,
=*+*-  Marty McGowan  908 230-3739
http://alum.mit.edu/www/mcgowan

p.s. bill and i had a live session yesterday about keybase, where i'm applemcg.
On Tue, Jul 18, 2017, at 11:01, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
> It seems to me that the first thing to handle is coming up with a means> for 
> identifying the version/variant/dialect/fork of "markdown" that a> file is 
> coded in.
>
> I have been thinking that a variant of #! Would do it, but that's not> quite 
> what that is used for (since it confuses format and the application> that is 
> expected to process it).  (I am looking at #? Myself, but don't> have a clear 
> proposal at
>
> I still think something like that is called for.  Have a way of
> identifying the format of the text and, ideally, leading to where the> rules 
> and definition can be found.  Have it in a form that can be
> ignored, and still be forgiving when there is no such information and a> 
> consuming software does the best that can be figured out.
>
>  - Dennis
>
> PS: I am looking at #? myself, for leading format specifying line(s).> Don't 
> have a clear description so far, but there's more thinking at
> .  I will be using this for> 
> some different formats that I want to introduce (having little or nothing> to 
> do with markdown).
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Markdown-Discuss [mailto:markdown-discuss-
> > boun...@six.pairlist.net] On Behalf Of Gerald Bauer
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 05:49
> > To: Discussion related to Markdown. > > 
> > Subject: Fixing Markdown Series @ Manuscripts News
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > First thanks for the great mailing list service. Since I'm just> > 
> > talking to myself here this will be my last post on markdown list
> > (never say never ;-) Anyways, they never come back, don't they?
> >
> >
> > If you follow along there are different ways to "fix" markdown:> >
> [ ... ]
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RE: Fixing Markdown Series @ Manuscripts News

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

It seems to me that the first thing to handle is coming up with a means for 
identifying the version/variant/dialect/fork of "markdown" that a file is coded 
in.

I have been thinking that a variant of #! Would do it, but that's not quite 
what that is used for (since it confuses format and the application that is 
expected to process it).  (I am looking at #? Myself, but don't have a clear 
proposal at 

I still think something like that is called for.  Have a way of identifying the 
format of the text and, ideally, leading to where the rules and definition can 
be found.  Have it in a form that can be ignored, and still be forgiving when 
there is no such information and a consuming software does the best that can be 
figured out.

 - Dennis

PS: I am looking at #? myself, for leading format specifying line(s).  Don't 
have a clear description so far, but there's more thinking at 
.  I will be using this for some 
different formats that I want to introduce (having little or nothing to do with 
markdown).

> -Original Message-
> From: Markdown-Discuss [mailto:markdown-discuss-
> boun...@six.pairlist.net] On Behalf Of Gerald Bauer
> Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 05:49
> To: Discussion related to Markdown. 
> Subject: Fixing Markdown Series @ Manuscripts News
> 
> Hello,
> 
> First thanks for the great mailing list service. Since I'm just
> talking to myself here this will be my last post on markdown list
> (never say never ;-) Anyways, they never come back, don't they?
> 
> 
> If you follow along there are different ways to "fix" markdown:
> 
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