Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Res: Res: Re: Change icon?

2010-11-12 Thread jonathon
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/09/2010 03:01 PM, David Nelson wrote: Thanks for your time on that... I guess that puts a stopper on the paper plane mascot idea then? The critical issue is not the words paper plane, but rather what the image looks like. If the image is

Res: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Res: Res: Re: Change icon?

2010-11-11 Thread Lucas Filho
://www.broffice.org/gubro-ce Blog Pessoal http://lucasfilho.blogspot.com Agradecemos a Deus por tudo - Mensagem original De: Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com Para: marketing@libreoffice.org Enviadas: Sexta-feira, 5 de Novembro de 2010 1:47:18 Assunto: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Res: Res: Re: Change icon

[libreoffice-marketing] Re: Res: Res: Re: Change icon?

2010-11-10 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Hi Marc, Le 09/11/10 20:01, Marc Paré a écrit : Thanks Alex. Just for information, are you willing to help out with the legal aspects of the branding of LibO? It would really be handy if you could. We are often a little naive when proposing some of these things such as icons, mascot etc.

[libreoffice-marketing] Re: Res: Res: Re: Change icon?

2010-11-10 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-11-10 13:16, Alexander Thurgood a écrit : Hi Marc, Le 09/11/10 20:01, Marc Paré a écrit : Thanks Alex. Just for information, are you willing to help out with the legal aspects of the branding of LibO? It would really be handy if you could. We are often a little naive when proposing

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Res: Res: Re: Change icon?

2010-11-09 Thread David Nelson
Hi, :-) I'm proactively contacting people with graphic design skills, to try and attract them to join the LibO project. My current source for possible contributors is http://www.csszengarden.com/, where there's a lot of beautiful work showcased. Has anyone got any suggestions about sites and

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Res: Res: Re: Change icon?

2010-11-09 Thread Ivan M.
Hi David, On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 9:05 PM, David Nelson comme...@traduction.biz wrote: Hi, :-) I'm proactively contacting people with graphic design skills, to try and attract them to join the LibO project. My current source for possible contributors is http://www.csszengarden.com/, where

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Res: Res: Re: Change icon?

2010-11-09 Thread Ivan M.
Hi David, quick addendum :) On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 10:19 PM, Ivan M. iv...@patentpending.co.nz wrote: [...] It would be nice to have people from various distros' artwork teams work together and tell us how we can make our branding stronger so that they don't end up replacing it all with their

[libreoffice-marketing] Re: Res: Res: Re: Change icon?

2010-11-09 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Hi David, Le 08/11/10 22:57, David Nelson a écrit : Hi, :-) They can certainly copyright their particular version. However, IANAL, but I don't think they can copyright the whole concept of a paper plane in general. Anyway, La Poste? Those guys can hardly stagger out of bed in the

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Res: Res: Re: Change icon?

2010-11-09 Thread David Nelson
Hi Alex, :-) Thanks for your time on that... I guess that puts a stopper on the paper plane mascot idea then? David Nelson -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Res: Res: Re: Change icon?

2010-11-09 Thread David Nelson
Hi Alex, :-) On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 19:29, Alexander Thurgood alex.thurg...@gmail.com wrote: BTW, I am a lawyer, specialising in intellectual property. While I don't have any obsession with this paper plane concept, it's the only mascot proposal I've yet heard, so I'm just interested to follow

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Res: Res: Re: Change icon?

2010-11-09 Thread David Nelson
Hi, :-) I'm hoping that we'll hear back soon from Lucas about the concept he suggested, and I just feel that it would be nice to be supportive of him in the further development of his idea, with constructive discussion, so that it can be placed before TDF for consideration. ;-) David Nelson --

[libreoffice-marketing] Re: Res: Res: Re: Change icon?

2010-11-09 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 09/11/10 13:53, David Nelson a écrit : Since *you* are a lawyer and an intellectual property specialist, would there be any chance that *you* could maybe check the copyright status out for us? A very quick search in the European Community trademark database for the words paper plane

[libreoffice-marketing] Re: Res: Res: Re: Change icon?

2010-11-09 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 09/11/10 14:54, Alexander Thurgood a écrit : Oh, and I forgot to throw in registered and unregistered industrial design rights ;-), which are cumulative with copyright in some jurisdictions and mutually exclusive of copyrights (but not trademarks) in others :-)) Enough to give any sane

[libreoffice-marketing] Re: Res: Res: Re: Change icon?

2010-11-09 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Hi David, Le 09/11/10 16:01, David Nelson a écrit : Hi Alex, :-) Thanks for your time on that... I guess that puts a stopper on the paper plane mascot idea then? Hmm, well, I don't really think the Foundation (or should I say the German OpenOffice.org Verein, since they are currently

[libreoffice-marketing] Re: Res: Res: Re: Change icon?

2010-11-09 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 09/11/10 17:07, Alexander Thurgood a écrit : It would be rather embarassing for the project to find itself in the press for all the wrong reasons just after it had started up, IMHO. Having said that, it could be argued that the inclusion of a graphical representation of a paper plane in

[libreoffice-marketing] Re: Res: Res: Re: Change icon?

2010-11-09 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-11-09 11:13, Alexander Thurgood a écrit : Le 09/11/10 17:07, Alexander Thurgood a écrit : It would be rather embarassing for the project to find itself in the press for all the wrong reasons just after it had started up, IMHO. Having said that, it could be argued that the inclusion

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Res: Res: Re: Change icon?

2010-11-09 Thread jonathon
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/09/2010 09:24 AM, Ivan M. wrote: Sorry, that last sentence wasn't supposed to have a question mark. I read that question mark as asking if other people also thought it would be a good idea to contact the various distros, asking for advice

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Res: Res: Re: Change icon?

2010-11-08 Thread Monfort Florian
Le vendredi 05 novembre 2010 à 14:54 -0400, Marc Paré a écrit : Le 2010-11-05 08:49, David Nelson a écrit : Hi, :-) On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 20:06, Graham Lauderyori...@openoffice.org wrote: People will always have different associations for logos and that doesn't really matter unless it

[libreoffice-marketing] Re: Res: Res: Re: Change icon?

2010-11-08 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-11-08 14:36, Monfort Florian a écrit : About the copyrights, maybe I could give a call or a message to laposte to ask them about the paper plane logo. It would be something less to care about, even if in other countries there might be other paper plane logos. What do you think ?

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Res: Res: Re: Change icon?

2010-11-08 Thread David Nelson
Hi, :-) They can certainly copyright their particular version. However, IANAL, but I don't think they can copyright the whole concept of a paper plane in general. Anyway, La Poste? Those guys can hardly stagger out of bed in the morning... I'd be surprised if there would be a problem... Anyway,

[libreoffice-marketing] Re: Res: Res: Re: Change icon?

2010-11-08 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-11-08 16:57, David Nelson a écrit : Hi, :-) They can certainly copyright their particular version. However, IANAL, but I don't think they can copyright the whole concept of a paper plane in general. Anyway, La Poste? Those guys can hardly stagger out of bed in the morning... I'd be

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Res: Res: Re: Change icon?

2010-11-08 Thread Graham Lauder
On Tuesday 09 Nov 2010 10:57:39 David Nelson wrote: Hi, :-) They can certainly copyright their particular version. However, IANAL, but I don't think they can copyright the whole concept of a paper plane in general. Anyway, La Poste? Those guys can hardly stagger out of bed in the morning...

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Res: Res: Re: Change icon?

2010-11-08 Thread Ivan M.
Hi Graham, all, On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Graham Lauder yori...@openoffice.org wrote: [...] The paper plane is cool, I like it better than the folded page, however that is just an aesthetic judgement, from a practical branding POV the paper loses under the uniqueness criteria. IMO, the

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Res: Res: Re: Change icon?

2010-11-08 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Mon, 08 Nov 2010 20:12:47 -0600, Ivan M. iv...@patentpending.co.nz wrote: Hi Graham, all, On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Graham Lauder yori...@openoffice.org wrote: [...] The paper plane is cool, I like it better than the folded page, however that is just an aesthetic judgement,