Re: [libreoffice-marketing] List of Events to attend in 2012

2011-11-23 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hallo Andreas,

Am 22.11.2011 21:52, schrieb Andreas Mantke:

 I created the wiki page at https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/2012 
 and filled 
 in the events for Europe that I always know.

Hm. It´s not easy for one to keep track on the events.

How does a visitor of the main page
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events know, that there is a
subpage ./2012?

Did you see the localized pages, that are automatically linked from
the main page https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events on the top.

For example, there are already events in 2012 at
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/de? However the language
link for de from the new ./2012 page you created leads to Diese
Seite enthält momentan noch keinen Text. Du kannst ihren Titel auf
anderen Seiten suchen oder die zugehörigen Logbücher betrachten.

Stefan

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] List of Events to attend in 2012

2011-11-23 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Ahh, i guess the 2011 events listed on the page
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events
need to be moved to a sub-page
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/2011
and the 2012 events put in the main page?  Then an opening line stating that 
there are links to the 'previous' year?
Regards from
Tom :)


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From: Stefan Weigel stefan.wei...@bildungskreis.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] List of Events to attend in 2012
To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Wednesday, 23 November, 2011, 13:12

Hallo Andreas,

Am 22.11.2011 21:52, schrieb Andreas Mantke:

 I created the wiki page at https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/2012 
 and filled 
 in the events for Europe that I always know.

Hm. It´s not easy for one to keep track on the events.

How does a visitor of the main page
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events know, that there is a
subpage ./2012?

Did you see the localized pages, that are automatically linked from
the main page https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events on the top.

For example, there are already events in 2012 at
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/de? However the language
link for de from the new ./2012 page you created leads to Diese
Seite enthält momentan noch keinen Text. Du kannst ihren Titel auf
anderen Seiten suchen oder die zugehörigen Logbücher betrachten.

Stefan

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] List of Events to attend in 2012

2011-11-23 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Marc, *,

On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 2:19 AM, Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com wrote:
 Le 2011-11-22 15:52, Andreas Mantke a écrit :
 Am Montag, 21. November 2011, 22:06:14 schrieb Marc Paré:
 [requirements for web-calendar]
 -- able to categorize events -- when inputting events, we should be able to
 choose the language and/or various other categories such as TDF Board
 meeting, conferences, Plugfests, etc. Users could then filter their calendar
 views as needed.

Predefined categories are possible. Although I don't think the regular
meetings should be added tot he calendar, for recurring meetings, a
dedicated page that lists the weekly or monthly schedule is more
appropriate.

That leaving the choice for categories - what categories would you like to see?
Are there really that many events that filtering by category is necessary?

 OR

 -- able to add other calendars into a master calendar where a user could
 switch on/off the calendar view. This is done extremely well with Google
 Calendar.

This could be realized via the ics/rss imports/exports - although I
don't really think it is necessary.
Looking at the wiki page we have less than 40 events in 2011, and 2012
currently is at 4. So I don't quite see the need for categories.

ciao
Christian

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] List of Events to attend in 2012

2011-11-23 Thread Marc Paré

Hi Christian,

Le 2011-11-23 09:48, Christian Lohmaier a écrit :

Hi Marc, *,

On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 2:19 AM, Marc Parém...@marcpare.com  wrote:

Le 2011-11-22 15:52, Andreas Mantke a écrit :

Am Montag, 21. November 2011, 22:06:14 schrieb Marc Paré:

[requirements for web-calendar]
-- able to categorize events -- when inputting events, we should be able to
choose the language and/or various other categories such as TDF Board
meeting, conferences, Plugfests, etc. Users could then filter their calendar
views as needed.

Predefined categories are possible. Although I don't think the regular
meetings should be added tot he calendar, for recurring meetings, a
dedicated page that lists the weekly or monthly schedule is more
appropriate.
If we are to be transparent, then we should have ALL meetings showing on 
our calendar. New visitors and prospective members will have an easier 
time seeing the frequency of meetings for the different sections of the 
LibreOffice project and, yes, I think the TDF SC meetings should also 
show on the calendar. It should be a place where all people are served. 
It would also show how much of a vibrant and open community that we are. 
We need to get more people involved in the project as there are still 
too few of us trying to manage it. Having all of the events at a glance 
on a calendar month, for example will keep each section appraised of 
each other's schedule and avoid double booking on some days, and, may 
encourage our users to join our membership and help out in a more active 
way or maybe even listen in on the meetings.


Listing meetings on a dedicated page just makes it harder and 
frustrating for users to find these pages. It's just one more hurdle for 
users to handle when we could just add these to the calendar and tag 
them as weekly meetings or monthly meetings once. I don't see the reason 
for making it more difficult for people to see when meetings are 
occurring when it could easily be done through a calendar.




That leaving the choice for categories - what categories would you like to see?
Are there really that many events that filtering by category is necessary?


Categorization normally starts on a small scale and will eventually grow 
as more people get involved in a project. Having the ability to 
categorize/filter is what we should aim for. It would also be nice to 
have this ability for the marketing purposes so that we could better 
analyze the breakdown of dates for marketing plans.


So, categories would then include (at this point):

Conferences
CFP or CFA deadline dates (Call for papers/articles)
Reminder dates for various events where a nudge to users/members is 
necessary
Seminars (for example: LibreOffice help sessions at LUGs, Colleges, 
Universities)

TDF SC meetings
Voting dates/deadlines
Developer meetings
Plugfest meetings
Design meetings
Documentation meetings
Marketing meetings
Other or Miscellaneous (where an event does not fit in any category)




OR

-- able to add other calendars into a master calendar where a user could
switch on/off the calendar view. This is done extremely well with Google
Calendar.

This could be realized via the ics/rss imports/exports - although I
don't really think it is necessary.
Looking at the wiki page we have less than 40 events in 2011, and 2012
currently is at 4. So I don't quite see the need for categories.
The conferences where LibreOffice participated and had some presence in 
2011 should be pre-filled for 2012 and left open for members/users to 
sign-up. Most conferences are announced at least 1 year in advance and 
we should fill these in, if possible, a year or months in advance so 
that members can plan on participating. We may be able to man more 
conferences if we post them on the calendar thus allowing more time for 
members to plan to attend. The calendar then also becomes a booking tool 
for conferences. Same for sectional meetings.


Cheers

Marc

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] List of Events to attend in 2012

2011-11-23 Thread Andreas Mantke
Hi Stefan,

Am Mittwoch, 23. November 2011, 14:12:50 schrieb Stefan Weigel:
 Hallo Andreas,
 
 Am 22.11.2011 21:52, schrieb Andreas Mantke:
  I created the wiki page at
  https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/2012 and filled in the events
  for Europe that I always know.
 
 Hm. It´s not easy for one to keep track on the events.
 
 How does a visitor of the main page
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events know, that there is a
 subpage ./2012?
 
 Did you see the localized pages, that are automatically linked from
 the main page https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events on the top.
 
 For example, there are already events in 2012 at
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/de? However the language
 link for de from the new ./2012 page you created leads to Diese
 Seite enthält momentan noch keinen Text. Du kannst ihren Titel auf
 anderen Seiten suchen oder die zugehörigen Logbücher betrachten.

could you fix that please (it's a wiki ;-)

Regards,
Andreas
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] List of Events to attend in 2012

2011-11-23 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hallo Andreas,

Am 23.11.2011 21:21, schrieb Andreas Mantke:

 could you fix that please (it's a wiki ;-)

I am not sure, how to fix that in a wiki. :-)

There are several types of events in different regions of the world,
some of global interest, some only for some native languages, some
both. We want to keep track of them as well as keep an archive. We
want to apply organizational info, such as who is at the booth, who
will be there for a talk.

I think, this diserves a relational database, rather than a set of
wiki pages. In a wiki, we will end up with several pages, none of
them complete, many of them inconsistent. For example look at
ChemnitzerLinuxTage and LinuxTag on

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/2012
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/de

One will have to follow both, in order to get all available information.

It´s a pity, that I don´t have the time to create a DB and bring it
up. :-/

Gruß

Stefan



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