[libreoffice-marketing] eCommerce

2014-09-17 Thread oprea.l...@gmail.com

Hi all,

I want to make an ecommerce site through which to sell the CD / DVD / 
usb stick with LibreOffice.

Is it legal? Can I use LibreOffice logo on documents?

Best regards,
Lucian

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] eCommerce

2014-09-17 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 17/09/14 11:41, oprea.l...@gmail.com wrote:

 I want to make an ecommerce site through which to sell the CD / DVD /
 usb stick with LibreOffice.
 Is it legal? Can I use LibreOffice logo on documents?

You should get at least a license for the logo (third party, without TDF
as a tagline). Please write to le...@documentfoundation.org and
flo...@documentfoundation.org (both copied here).

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] eCommerce

2014-09-17 Thread oprea.l...@gmail.com

Hi all,

Thanks Italo.
I hope to receive a response from the email addresses listed on this 
problem.
I want offer high quality services for those who wish to purchase this 
product - LibreOffice and derivates.


Best regards,
Lucian

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On 09/17/2014 01:14 PM, Italo Vignoli wrote:

On 17/09/14 11:41, oprea.l...@gmail.com wrote:


I want to make an ecommerce site through which to sell the CD / DVD /
usb stick with LibreOffice.
Is it legal? Can I use LibreOffice logo on documents?

You should get at least a license for the logo (third party, without TDF
as a tagline). Please write to le...@documentfoundation.org and
flo...@documentfoundation.org (both copied here).




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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] eCommerce

2014-09-17 Thread Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster

On 09/17/2014 05:41 AM, oprea.l...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi all,

I want to make an ecommerce site through which to sell the CD / DVD / 
usb stick with LibreOffice.

Is it legal? Can I use LibreOffice logo on documents?

Best regards,
Lucian

-
Lucian Oprea
Telefon: 0770 578 155





I have been selling a DVD of LibreOffice in the USA for awhile, on and off.

Of course I do not make any profit on it, since I sell it at my costs.

Also, I have a link to the ISO file of the DVD for free downloading.

http://libreoffice-na.us/index.html

I do not have an eCommerce site for ordering, since any ordering is 
through direct emailing and sending a check in the mail before I ship 
the burned and printed DVD.


I have health issues and housing issues about doing business out of a 
government subsidized housing.  So I cannot even think of doing any 
official business selling copies of the DVDs for a profit or donation 
to TDF of anything over cost.


Check out my web demo versions of the DVDs.  My DVDs are browser based, 
so the online demo versions are the same format as the DVDs - except for 
anytime I have a lag of syncing the updates to the demo pages.


I still have to update the 4.2.5 to 4.2.6 and 4.3.0 to 4.3.1.  I have 
the ISO files for those newest versions online for downloading.  I just 
have not had the bandwidth time to upload the HTML page changes along 
with the install files o those two online demo versions.  Maybe I will 
be able to set it up for tonight.





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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] eCommerce

2014-09-17 Thread oprea.l...@gmail.com

Hi,

I'm glad to know you. Your idea of LibreOffice Box I love and know from 
the start. Unfortunately I need everything to be in Romanian.
I just wanted confirmation of the TDF and LibreOffice personnel that can 
sell.


I wish to make an ecommerce site only open-source products. Do not do it 
for money but for the fact that there is something to like and promote 
these programs.
In Romania, coordinate openSUSE community and LibreOffice. Get involved 
in activities and presentations. For example, in October 1, together 
with open data department of the Government of Romania will have a 
presentation each week in different cities.


Best regards,
Lucian

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Telefon: 0770 578 155

On 09/17/2014 02:54 PM, Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:

On 09/17/2014 05:41 AM, oprea.l...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi all,

I want to make an ecommerce site through which to sell the CD / DVD / 
usb stick with LibreOffice.

Is it legal? Can I use LibreOffice logo on documents?

Best regards,
Lucian

-
Lucian Oprea
Telefon: 0770 578 155





I have been selling a DVD of LibreOffice in the USA for awhile, on and 
off.


Of course I do not make any profit on it, since I sell it at my costs.

Also, I have a link to the ISO file of the DVD for free downloading.

http://libreoffice-na.us/index.html

I do not have an eCommerce site for ordering, since any ordering is 
through direct emailing and sending a check in the mail before I ship 
the burned and printed DVD.


I have health issues and housing issues about doing business out of a 
government subsidized housing.  So I cannot even think of doing any 
official business selling copies of the DVDs for a profit or 
donation to TDF of anything over cost.


Check out my web demo versions of the DVDs.  My DVDs are browser 
based, so the online demo versions are the same format as the DVDs - 
except for anytime I have a lag of syncing the updates to the demo pages.


I still have to update the 4.2.5 to 4.2.6 and 4.3.0 to 4.3.1.  I have 
the ISO files for those newest versions online for downloading.  I 
just have not had the bandwidth time to upload the HTML page changes 
along with the install files o those two online demo versions.  Maybe 
I will be able to set it up for tonight.








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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] eCommerce

2014-09-17 Thread Sophie
Hi Lucian,
Le 17/09/2014 14:22, oprea.l...@gmail.com a écrit :
 Hi,
 
 I'm glad to know you. Your idea of LibreOffice Box I love and know from
 the start. Unfortunately I need everything to be in Romanian.
 I just wanted confirmation of the TDF and LibreOffice personnel that can
 sell.
 
 I wish to make an ecommerce site only open-source products. Do not do it
 for money but for the fact that there is something to like and promote
 these programs.
 In Romania, coordinate openSUSE community and LibreOffice. Get involved
 in activities and presentations. For example, in October 1, together
 with open data department of the Government of Romania will have a
 presentation each week in different cities.

Great! will you report back how it goes? It's always good to know what
is happening in NLPs :)

Cheers
Sophie

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] eCommerce

2014-09-17 Thread Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster


Take the ideas from the German and English DVD projects and make it into 
you own version.  I have had several people in non-English countries 
use my project's DVD setup as the foundation of their version.  Of 
course they had to change the text to their native language[s].  By 
doing this, you get some of the template code already written for 
you.  IT makes it much easier for others not needing to create 
everything from scratch.  That is what I did when I changed to the 
current DVD format.  I downloaded all of the styles and scripts from the 
LO web site  - several main versions ago - and built my browser based 
DVD from there so it would look similar to the official LO site but 
with my own variations. I plan on doing a major over hall in the near 
future, but I will have to write a lot of the template scripting 
myself, for what I want the new [ 4.4.x?} DVD look and feel.


Best of luck on your DVD.

I use Ubuntu and Linux Mint, plus Windows 7.
Liked Ubuntu 9.x better than the early version of openSUSE I tried on an 
old desktop/server box [back then].


On 09/17/2014 08:22 AM, oprea.l...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,

I'm glad to know you. Your idea of LibreOffice Box I love and know 
from the start. Unfortunately I need everything to be in Romanian.
I just wanted confirmation of the TDF and LibreOffice personnel that 
can sell.


I wish to make an ecommerce site only open-source products. Do not do 
it for money but for the fact that there is something to like and 
promote these programs.
In Romania, coordinate openSUSE community and LibreOffice. Get 
involved in activities and presentations. For example, in October 1, 
together with open data department of the Government of Romania will 
have a presentation each week in different cities.


Best regards,
Lucian

-
Lucian Oprea
Telefon: 0770 578 155

On 09/17/2014 02:54 PM, Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:

On 09/17/2014 05:41 AM, oprea.l...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi all,

I want to make an ecommerce site through which to sell the CD / DVD 
/ usb stick with LibreOffice.

Is it legal? Can I use LibreOffice logo on documents?

Best regards,
Lucian

-
Lucian Oprea
Telefon: 0770 578 155





I have been selling a DVD of LibreOffice in the USA for awhile, on 
and off.


Of course I do not make any profit on it, since I sell it at my costs.

Also, I have a link to the ISO file of the DVD for free downloading.

http://libreoffice-na.us/index.html

I do not have an eCommerce site for ordering, since any ordering is 
through direct emailing and sending a check in the mail before I ship 
the burned and printed DVD.


I have health issues and housing issues about doing business out of a 
government subsidized housing.  So I cannot even think of doing any 
official business selling copies of the DVDs for a profit or 
donation to TDF of anything over cost.


Check out my web demo versions of the DVDs.  My DVDs are browser 
based, so the online demo versions are the same format as the DVDs - 
except for anytime I have a lag of syncing the updates to the demo 
pages.


I still have to update the 4.2.5 to 4.2.6 and 4.3.0 to 4.3.1.  I have 
the ISO files for those newest versions online for downloading.  I 
just have not had the bandwidth time to upload the HTML page 
changes along with the install files o those two online demo 
versions.  Maybe I will be able to set it up for tonight.











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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] eCommerce

2014-09-17 Thread oprea.l...@gmail.com

Hi,

Thanks.
I use openSUSE 13.1 and is very fun. I used openSUSE at version 10.1.
I have to watch your DVD structure and I will tell you my mind.

Best regards,
Lucian

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Telefon: 0770 578 155

On 09/17/2014 03:43 PM, Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:


Take the ideas from the German and English DVD projects and make it 
into you own version.  I have had several people in non-English 
countries use my project's DVD setup as the foundation of their 
version.  Of course they had to change the text to their native 
language[s].  By doing this, you get some of the template code 
already written for you.  IT makes it much easier for others not 
needing to create everything from scratch.  That is what I did when I 
changed to the current DVD format.  I downloaded all of the styles and 
scripts from the LO web site  - several main versions ago - and built 
my browser based DVD from there so it would look similar to the 
official LO site but with my own variations. I plan on doing a major 
over hall in the near future, but I will have to write a lot of the 
template scripting myself, for what I want the new [ 4.4.x?} DVD look 
and feel.


Best of luck on your DVD.

I use Ubuntu and Linux Mint, plus Windows 7.
Liked Ubuntu 9.x better than the early version of openSUSE I tried on 
an old desktop/server box [back then].


On 09/17/2014 08:22 AM, oprea.l...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,

I'm glad to know you. Your idea of LibreOffice Box I love and know 
from the start. Unfortunately I need everything to be in Romanian.
I just wanted confirmation of the TDF and LibreOffice personnel that 
can sell.


I wish to make an ecommerce site only open-source products. Do not do 
it for money but for the fact that there is something to like and 
promote these programs.
In Romania, coordinate openSUSE community and LibreOffice. Get 
involved in activities and presentations. For example, in October 1, 
together with open data department of the Government of Romania will 
have a presentation each week in different cities.


Best regards,
Lucian

-
Lucian Oprea
Telefon: 0770 578 155

On 09/17/2014 02:54 PM, Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:

On 09/17/2014 05:41 AM, oprea.l...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi all,

I want to make an ecommerce site through which to sell the CD / DVD 
/ usb stick with LibreOffice.

Is it legal? Can I use LibreOffice logo on documents?

Best regards,
Lucian

-
Lucian Oprea
Telefon: 0770 578 155





I have been selling a DVD of LibreOffice in the USA for awhile, on 
and off.


Of course I do not make any profit on it, since I sell it at my costs.

Also, I have a link to the ISO file of the DVD for free downloading.

http://libreoffice-na.us/index.html

I do not have an eCommerce site for ordering, since any ordering is 
through direct emailing and sending a check in the mail before I 
ship the burned and printed DVD.


I have health issues and housing issues about doing business out of 
a government subsidized housing.  So I cannot even think of doing 
any official business selling copies of the DVDs for a profit or 
donation to TDF of anything over cost.


Check out my web demo versions of the DVDs.  My DVDs are browser 
based, so the online demo versions are the same format as the DVDs - 
except for anytime I have a lag of syncing the updates to the demo 
pages.


I still have to update the 4.2.5 to 4.2.6 and 4.3.0 to 4.3.1. I have 
the ISO files for those newest versions online for downloading.  I 
just have not had the bandwidth time to upload the HTML page 
changes along with the install files o those two online demo 
versions.  Maybe I will be able to set it up for tonight.














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[libreoffice-marketing] Working with RedMine

2014-09-17 Thread Charles-H. Schulz

Hello,

As discussed during the Marketing Strategy Workshop, we would like to 
draw on the Design team experience and move most of (many at least) of 
our activities on RedMine (1). We already have a space there (2), mostly 
populated by the issue tracker. Remember, since several months, RedMine 
handles every issue that is not related to the LibreOffice code so teams 
like marketing, design, website, etc. already work there.


** Experiment goals:
To improve efficiency for the marketing team, connect easily with other 
teams, have a more practical set of tools. The Design Team has now fully 
transitioned to RedMine, including its wiki, and is seeing a real 
productivity boost (3) .


** Rationale and experiment specifics

1. Public Marketing List ShutDown
The marketing list carries little of our current workflow; in fact, most 
of it has gone to the RedMine issue tracker already. On top of this, the 
marketing list is not read by most of the people concerned by marketing 
activities, namely the native-lang projects worldwide. PR coordination 
happens on the private list and to a lesser extent on IRC for meetings. 
The marketing list, just like any list, requires administration work, 
i.e. moderation. There's a lot of spam arriving, usually in waves, and 
it requires the approval or refusal of incoming mails (spam, 
unsubscribed posters, etc.)


The suggestion for the experiment is to stop using the public marketing 
list completely for one month, and to rely on the Issue tracker of 
RedMine meanwhile. The main idea here is to move our activities entirely 
to a task-based workflow for the team. PR announcements coordination can 
continue to be handled via the private list and IRC for meetings (note 
that RedMine can have private spaces and subprojects); anything else, 
such as discussions, would happen on the discuss list and for 
cross-project awareness on the project mailing list.


RedMine has the ability to embed forums, that look a lot like issue 
tracker posts. It is an option worth considering in the future, but at 
the moment I suggest we do without it.



2. New Wiki

I am personally not entirely sold on this one, but we are in a situation 
where the marketing wiki pages are quite numerous, yet completely 
chaotic, and often outdated. We can think about cleaning these wiki 
pages, but given their amount we may consider to start a fresh with a 
new wiki. I'm not suggesting that we open twenty new wiki pages on 
RedMine tomorrow, but that we use it for a month if we need it.



** Expected results:

- increased efficiency
- less maintenance (for us, not necessarily for the infra team ;-)  )
- increased clarity in terms of resources, contacts, etc.
- task-based workflow (partially achieved already)


I'll leave everyone until the end of the week (2 days roughly) to think 
about it and comment here.


Thanks,

Charles.
(1)  https://redmine.documentfoundation.org
(2)  https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/projects/marketing
(3)  https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/projects/design


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Working with RedMine

2014-09-17 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Charles-H. Schulz
charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote:
 1. Public Marketing List ShutDown
 The marketing list carries little of our current workflow; in fact, most of
 it has gone to the RedMine issue tracker already. On top of this, the
 marketing list is not read by most of the people concerned by marketing
 activities, namely the native-lang projects worldwide. PR coordination
 happens on the private list and to a lesser extent on IRC for meetings. The
 marketing list, just like any list, requires administration work, i.e.
 moderation. There's a lot of spam arriving, usually in waves, and it
 requires the approval or refusal of incoming mails (spam, unsubscribed
 posters, etc.)

How public is the marketing project in Redmine?  Right now people can
easily join or review what's going on in marketing by subscribing to
or looking in the marketing archives. Would the same public nature
carry-over into Redmine?

 anything else, such as
 discussions, would happen on the discuss list and for cross-project
 awareness on the project mailing list.

So let's say someone want to discuss marketing strategies in schools.
Would that go to the tdf-discuss list, or?

 2. New Wiki

 I am personally not entirely sold on this one, but we are in a situation
 where the marketing wiki pages are quite numerous, yet completely chaotic,
 and often outdated. We can think about cleaning these wiki pages, but given
 their amount we may consider to start a fresh with a new wiki. I'm not
 suggesting that we open twenty new wiki pages on RedMine tomorrow, but that
 we use it for a month if we need it.

One of the benefits of having a single wiki is the ability to easily
cross-link between teams, etc. Plus we do have a ton of content up
there, including event pages stretching back multiple years. If the
Marketing pages on the TDF wiki are hopelessly unusable, we can always
move them all under /Marketing-old/ and start from a blank slate,
but I'd expect that some heavy editing might be more productive?

 ** Expected results:

 - increased efficiency
 - less maintenance (for us, not necessarily for the infra team ;-)  )
 - increased clarity in terms of resources, contacts, etc.

Could you explain a bit more what you mean re: resources/contacts?

 - task-based workflow (partially achieved already)

A big +1 to a task-based workflow. I've been experimenting with
redmine a bit myself, and I think that it has some potential for
anything that's specifically encapsulated as a TODO item. I'm a bit
more cautious about using it in lieu of existing infra for other
purposes.

Cheers,
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