Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Working with RedMine
Le 18.09.2014 20:27, Jean-Francois Nifenecker a écrit : Hi, Le 18/09/2014 14:05, Charles-H. Schulz a écrit : On 18 septembre 2014 12:49:50 CEST, Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl wrote: Florian Effenberger wrote on 18-09-14 12:13: So you suggest we do not experiment with anything? it's just my personal opinion - if each project hosts their discussion somewhere else, chaos will break free. Plus, the entry barrier for Redmine is much higher than for a mailing list, which makes me fear we would exclude people if we exclusively focus on that. I've only read Charles initial mail (well and this short one) What I thought of: RedMine is great. Project focussed working. OK Furthermore: I think additionally a mailing list is important. Just that people can ask questions. Or to send some not one x/y/z.. Also, if just all great ideas are added (sometimes it may look like dumping) at Redmine, wouldn't that incline the risk of causing a mess. Could be coordinated via mail ;/ Yes indeed. Charles: you think of doing all that via the discuss-list ?? Well the point is to ensure that the discussions remain on the discuss list abd the work goes on Redmine. To answer Florian: I think today we have metrics showing we do not gain any contributors through the marketing mailing list but spend lots of energy maintaining it. I suggest we refrain from posting on it for 1 month and see how we feel about it... I, for one, am subscribed to the libreoffice Marketing and the Design lists (among others). Both lists managers (sorry, can't find an appropriate wording here) have decided to go the Redmine route. I understand this is much better for the workflows. I have to say that I appreciate receiving news through the lists channels, even though I don't post much. Stopping these channels won't bring information any more to the public about what's going on, the design paths that are taken. Thus, to me, as I probably won't have much time to visit the LibreOffice Redmines, the project life will now turn to be much on the stupid users side and I shall be deprived from much insight. There are no stupid users :-) Anyway, the answer to your concern is that you can follow the activity on RedMine (anything from task, issues and comments on these) by susbcribing to the Atom feed. Just like with email, you can use your email client, your browser, or an online service for that: https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/projects/marketing/issues look down right the screen for the link. The problem you raise, however, deserves a better answer. You can of course follow a mailing list, but it's been two years since there has been several talks, not just here, about the need for the community to be aware of everything's happening in the project. the LOWN initiative, presently on the wiki, is probably a much better way to follow what's going on as well, and at some point it will have to become as rich in its form as it already is with its content. By which I mean that we are going to have to think about not just the newsletter format, but also about an online platform allowing anyone to subscribe and follow it in several ways (RSS, email, Twitter, etc.) I think leaving the Design and Marketing lists is a big mistake. Many people might be like me: listening much and speaking little. The fact that there's little incoming traffic doesn't mean there's no interest. Hence, I join my voice to Florian's one and kindly ask for a second thought on both the concerned lists. Well, I'd like us to have an experiment on our work first - and right now it has become obvious to many that this list is not serving much either. Could I ask you and others for a month to subscribe to the activity feeds on RedMine and then tell us about your experience afterwards? Best, Charles. -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: marketing+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] conference planning tool
Cor Nouws wrote on 08-09-14 16:21: Florian Effenberger wrote on 08-09-14 16:09: Before thinking about coming up with our own solution, we should check what existing tools are on the market, or if other projects are working on that (I heard rumors that other FLOSS projects are already funding efforts here). Great idea! I'll do some checks in my network. The people from T-Dose use something that - at least from my perspective - looks fine. It is drupal with a lot additional modules, that allows us to make forms and views. Thus most is automated. Before you are that far, it's quite a job, but after that handy. People there are willing to help. Also there is https://amsterdam2014.drupal.org/ a drupal based conference site that is neat. Have some more contacts around that too. If some people can check both and see what fits most.. Cheers -- Cor Nouws GPD key ID: 0xB13480A6 - 591A 30A7 36A0 CE3C 3D28 A038 E49D 7365 B134 80A6 - vrijwilliger http://nl.libreoffice.org - volunteer http://www.libreoffice.org - The Document Foundation Membership Committee Member -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: marketing+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] conference planning tool
On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 7:39 PM, Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org wrote: Before thinking about coming up with our own solution, we should check what existing tools are on the market, or if other projects are working on that (I heard rumors that other FLOSS projects are already funding efforts here). https://github.com/hasgeek/funnel This is a Paper submission and voting system for conferences built by Indian start up hasgeek . It is widely used for FLOSS events in India -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: marketing+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] Re: Working with RedMine
Hi everyone, Le 2014-09-17 14:01, Robinson Tryon a écrit : 2. New Wiki I am personally not entirely sold on this one, but we are in a situation where the marketing wiki pages are quite numerous, yet completely chaotic, and often outdated. We can think about cleaning these wiki pages, but given their amount we may consider to start a fresh with a new wiki. I'm not suggesting that we open twenty new wiki pages on RedMine tomorrow, but that we use it for a month if we need it. One of the benefits of having a single wiki is the ability to easily cross-link between teams, etc. Plus we do have a ton of content up there, including event pages stretching back multiple years. If the Marketing pages on the TDF wiki are hopelessly unusable, we can always move them all under /Marketing-old/ and start from a blank slate, but I'd expect that some heavy editing might be more productive? As I am the one who created many of the wiki marketing pages, could I try to clean it up and make it more useful? It needs a lot of cleaning up and updating and I am still quite knowledgeable of the information on the marketing wiki pages. There is a lot of cool stuff and I personally think that we may fall into the trap of re-inventing many of the past items where we had spent a lot of energy/discussion building ideas. Many of them just need implementation and are still valid today. One such good example that is quite simple but still cool is the LibreOffice paper airplane project that the marketing/design team created ... it was used at some initial conferences a couple of years ago, but was still fun and would still work today with updating the information on the plane template. We also built up some ideas on LibreOffice use in education and, again, some of the projects may be valid still today ... they just need implementation. I could clean up the marketing section and then we could then have a close look and decide whether to close and re-boot it. I am also concerned of some of the design work that we also did that still has not been properly catalogued, we should avoid re-inventing something that has already been done and would need just a little tweaking to update. Cheers, Marc -- Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com http://www.parEntreprise.com parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF) parEntreprise.com Supports http://www.LibreOffice.org -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: marketing+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
