[libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] Notebookbar out of Experimental
I do agree to move the Notebookbar out of experimental. The latest updates on the Tabbed Toolbar in the master branch improved both the usability and the look & feel making it (in my opinion) a really useful and nice feature to have. I don't see a single reason why we should keep it in experimental. Il giorno mar 6 nov 2018 alle ore 17:50 Pedro Rosmaninho < mota.pr...@gmail.com> ha scritto: > Just as a side note. I've been using the Tabbedbar in 6.1 Fresh release > daily in my work on Windows 10. > None of those open issues are something that affect the functionality of > the Tabbed bar in daily use. > > - The chart editing toolbar issue is expecially annoying but it is also > something that happens with the Standard Toolbars, since performing chart > editing also replace the Standard Toolbar by the Cart Editing toolbar. If > anything the Tabbedbar is *superior* in that regard because it remains > visible when the chart editing toolbar is present. > > - As for MacOS glitches, I tried it on a MacOS VM and the issues are minor > aesthetic issues that do not impact its functionality. In fact, there are > far more serious glitches in LO on MacOS not related with the notebookbar > that warrant more attention. > > So please lets move the Notebookbar out of experimental. The Groupedbars > and Tabbedbars are in great shape. > > > > On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 4:43 PM Pedro Rosmaninho > wrote: > > > Please, this would be amazing. > > > > On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 7:42 AM kainz.a wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> I know the notebookbar implementation has bugs but it's under > development > >> since around 4 years and on each release the news pages wrote about this > >> experimental feature. > >> > >> I talked at Munich Hackfest about the big open bugs > >> - bad keyboard navigation > >> you can use F6 like in every other LibO app (F6 switch from Menubar to > >> Toolbar to NB to Sidebar), but it would be awesome if > >> svtlo-ManagedMenuButton will support keyboard shortcut focus if menubar > is > >> hidden and also sfxlo-NotebookbarToolBox widgets which was used to add > the > >> different uno commands didn't work with F6 -> tab > >> I hope to get some patches to fix this issue, you are welcome to help. > >> > >> - chart didn't support NB > >> the chart bug (if you open an chart in writer you see the notebookbar > and > >> the toolbar) can be fixed by add an NB to chart module (which I can do) > >> and > >> use this NB instead of the chart toolbar. But there is no progress in > this > >> change cause chart if different from other modules. > >> > >> - OS-X glitches > >> on OS-X there are several UI issues. I don't have an Mac so I can't say > to > >> much. > >> > >> The biggest issue is that there is NO developer working on the NB stuff. > >> We > >> talk each release to bring NB out of experimental. As there is no real > >> progress (excluding the ui files) I recommend to bring some > >> implementations > >> (tabbed, groupedbar) ouf of experimental for 6.2. Than we get more user > >> feedback and maybe some new developers. > >> > >> cheers > >> Andreas_K > >> > >> -- > >> To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > >> Problems? > >> https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > >> Posting guidelines + more: > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > >> List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ > >> Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy > >> > > > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: marketing+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Notebookbar out of Experimental
> Instead of the default discussion I would prefer an user information. Yeah, I do agree. Let's first make it available for all the users and get some feedback on it, then we can discuss about the default options. Il giorno ven 9 nov 2018 alle ore 15:15 kainz.a ha scritto: > Instead of the default discussion I would prefer an user information. > > Am Fr., 9. Nov. 2018, 15:04 hat Mike Saunders < > mike.saund...@documentfoundation.org> geschrieben: > > > First, hello Nige and welcome to the community :-) > > > > On the topic of the Notebookbar being default, I personally think that's > > not something we should do on the first release after making it > > non-experimental. If anything, we could have it available to everyone in > > 6.2, 6.3 and 6.4, then consider it as default for 7.0... > > > > On 09/11/2018 13:23, Nigel Verity wrote: > > > > > > A lot of people still prefer the classic menu bar and find it far more > > intuitive. I am one of them. Perhaps on first run after installation the > > user could be presented with a welcome screen which illustrates the > visual > > differences between the two menu types, and allows the user to select one > > or the other to be their personal default from that point onwards. > > > > That would be good, but it MUST be easy to switch between them. If > > someone chooses the Notebookbar but then wants to go back to the > > "classic" interface, it must be extremely obvious. Otherwise the amount > > of complaints we'll get on social media, info@ and download@ will go > > through the roof :-) > > > > Also, a big thanks as always to Andreas K for working on this. > > > > Mike > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe e-mail to: marketing+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > > Problems? > > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > > Posting guidelines + more: > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > > List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ > > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy > > > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: marketing+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: marketing+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
