Re: fedora-logo and fedora-themes discussions

2011-04-18 Thread Nicu Buculei
On 04/16/2011 05:02 PM, Robyn Bergeron wrote: GNOME 3 is an ingredient in Fedora - not the other way around. I wouldn't expect that, if, for example, there was a GNOME 3 Remix of Fedora, that there would be any trace of Fedora branding anywhere. Fedora is the major ingredient in a Fedora

Re: fedora-logo and fedora-themes discussions

2011-04-16 Thread Robyn Bergeron
On 04/15/2011 03:56 AM, Aleksandra Bookwar wrote: Hello, everyone, I would like to invite you to these two particular discussions: 1) gnome-shell extension that adds a Fedora logo http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2011-April/004233.html 2) customization of themes and

Re: fedora-logo and fedora-themes discussions

2011-04-16 Thread Larry Cafiero
On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 7:02 AM, Robyn Bergeron rberg...@redhat.com wrote: Ideally I'd really like the GNOME folks to reconsider how their ingredient into other distros impacts the branding for those folks. But as far as I can tell from reading the design-list, it's not even something they're

Re: fedora-logo and fedora-themes discussions

2011-04-16 Thread Larry Cafiero
On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 7:14 AM, Larry Cafiero larry.cafi...@gmail.com wrote: Ideally they will reconsider, however there's always the option of not using GNOME, or even promoting it in any way for that matter. That shoe can go on the other foot, too. Just saying . . . . Larry Cafiero

Re: fedora-logo and fedora-themes discussions

2011-04-16 Thread Fabian A. Scherschel
Totally agree with Nicu on this. If you want to construe constructive criticism as bashing people, there's nothing to be done about that, I guess. It does make me sad, though. Fab On Apr 15, 2011 6:08 PM, Paul W. Frields sticks...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 05:52:35PM +0300, Nicu

Re: fedora-logo and fedora-themes discussions

2011-04-16 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 04:24:56PM +0200, Fabian A. Scherschel wrote: On Apr 15, 2011 6:08 PM, Paul W. Frields sticks...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 05:52:35PM +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: On 04/15/2011 05:38 PM, Aleksandra Bookwar wrote: And i am asking the leaders of Fedora

fedora-logo and fedora-themes discussions

2011-04-15 Thread Aleksandra Bookwar
Hello, everyone, I would like to invite you to these two particular discussions: 1) gnome-shell extension that adds a Fedora logo http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2011-April/004233.html 2) customization of themes and colors in gnome 3 desktop in Fedora 15

Re: fedora-logo and fedora-themes discussions

2011-04-15 Thread Fabian A. Scherschel
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 12:56 PM, Aleksandra Bookwar ad...@bookwar.infowrote: Hello, everyone, I would like to invite you to these two particular discussions: 1) gnome-shell extension that adds a Fedora logo http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2011-April/004233.html Good

Re: fedora-logo and fedora-themes discussions

2011-04-15 Thread Robyn Bergeron
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 3:59 AM, Fabian A. Scherschel f...@sixgun.org wrote: On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 12:56 PM, Aleksandra Bookwar ad...@bookwar.info wrote: Hello, everyone, I would like to invite you to these two particular discussions: 1) gnome-shell extension that adds a Fedora logo

Re: fedora-logo and fedora-themes discussions

2011-04-15 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 04/15/2011 04:26 PM, Aleksandra Bookwar wrote: Hello, everyone, I would like to invite you to these two particular discussions: 1) gnome-shell extension that adds a Fedora logo http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2011-April/004233.html Using the extension for a few days

Re: fedora-logo and fedora-themes discussions

2011-04-15 Thread Aleksandra Bookwar
2) customization of themes and colors in gnome 3 desktop in Fedora 15 http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/desktop/2011-April/007130.html I think that these topics are important for promoting Fedora 15 to end-users and Fedora Marketing Team should be involved. If GNOME Shell has no

Re: fedora-logo and fedora-themes discussions

2011-04-15 Thread Fabian A. Scherschel
We could always tone the logo down a bit. Make it monochrome as you suggest or even slightly transparent... Fab On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com wrote: On 04/15/2011 04:26 PM, Aleksandra Bookwar wrote: Hello, everyone, I would like to invite you to

Re: fedora-logo and fedora-themes discussions

2011-04-15 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 04/15/2011 07:06 PM, Aleksandra Bookwar wrote: Fedora 15 release can step a little bit aside from straightforward use what we gave you Gnome approach and give more to the user just by shipping good-quality gnome-tweak-tool and gnome-shell-extensions-user-theme packages by default. And

Re: fedora-logo and fedora-themes discussions

2011-04-15 Thread Aleksandra Bookwar
My point is: every user of current Gnome 3 installs gnome-tweak-tool. Instead of closing your eyes on this fact and saying things like if they want to brake their desktop, we don't care as Gnome developers do, we have to admit this fact. It is happening right now here in Fedora 15. Yes, this

Re: fedora-logo and fedora-themes discussions

2011-04-15 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 04/15/2011 08:08 PM, Aleksandra Bookwar wrote: Yes, this package has its problems, and i don't expect all of them to be solved before release date. But there is still time to improve it before release, and there are people who work on this improvement. All they need is some respect and

Re: fedora-logo and fedora-themes discussions

2011-04-15 Thread Nicu Buculei
On 04/15/2011 05:43 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 04/15/2011 08:08 PM, Aleksandra Bookwar wrote: Yes, this package has its problems, and i don't expect all of them to be solved before release date. But there is still time to improve it before release, and there are people who work on this

Re: fedora-logo and fedora-themes discussions

2011-04-15 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 04:38:29PM +0200, Aleksandra Bookwar wrote: My point is: every user of current Gnome 3 installs gnome-tweak-tool. Instead of closing your eyes on this fact and saying things like if they want to brake their desktop, we don't care as Gnome developers do, we have to admit

Re: fedora-logo and fedora-themes discussions

2011-04-15 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 05:52:35PM +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: On 04/15/2011 05:38 PM, Aleksandra Bookwar wrote: And i am asking the leaders of Fedora community and people responsible for release of F15 first of all to admit that customizing the gnome-desktop is the real and important