Hi Claus,
Claus Schwarm wrote:
* No 'exclusive' influence on developers or product decisions. Even
the board is unable to do that.
Ahem. The board *shouldn't* do that. Not the same thing.
We are a sub-group of the GNOME project. If we have some suggestions for
Nautilus, backed up
En/na Dave Neary ha escrit:
Activity on mailing lists and bugzilla is the best way to do that. And
getting to know the developers involved :)
Right, but mailings lists and bugzilla are not the best interface for
newcomers. And non mailinglistsandbugzilla channels are not the best
interface
Hi, Dave!
Unlike wikipedia, GNOME favours credentials over consensus. Gaining a
reputation for making good product suggestions will come from (guess
what?) making good product suggestions.
Sorry but that was not what I meant. ;-)
Of course, a series of 'good' suggestions will gain you a
I agree that we have a problem empowering people. People on the list
seem to be waiting for direction (from you, me or Luis...).
I think both John and Santiago are ideal candidates for developing and
leading a strategy of merket analysis - getting information from our
target markets, and
Should we be doing DesktopUseCases to help us along ?
I think both our development and marketing would be helped (to have
organisational focus) by having Personas. A university was working on them
a couple of years ago, but that effort seems to have failed.
Ahoy,
On Tuesday 06 December 2005 11:44, Murray Cumming wrote:
Should we be doing DesktopUseCases to help us along ?
I think both our development and marketing would be helped (to have
organisational focus) by having Personas. A university was working on them
a couple of years ago, but that
On Tue, 2005-12-06 at 12:24 +0100, Murray Cumming wrote:
There were criticisms in there of Nautilus, the menu editor, performance
and usage of GNOME VFS (without specifics, it has to be said). Did those
ever get sent back to the Nautilus developers? How about a proposal to
include SMEG in
Hi,
Murray Cumming wrote:
getting information is the start - when their
information retrieval contributes to technical decisions in a project,
our marketing will begin to be more successful.
Fine. But when that getting information is obviously stalled then it
can't be allowed to stop us.
Hi,
Murray Cumming wrote:
getting information is the start - when their
information retrieval contributes to technical decisions in a project,
our marketing will begin to be more successful.
Fine. But when that getting information is obviously stalled then it
can't be allowed to stop us.
hi again, and thanks to all for replying. i'll try to answer some of
your comments, at least from my point of view.
The selling/advertising does not stop you from doing marketing. Should we
stop going to trade fairs, close down our website, and stop announcing
releases while we wait for the
En/na Dave Neary ha escrit:
I forgot spreadgnome.org (although I think we should choose another
name). A community promotion site is essential for all this.
Why the GNOME promotion can't fit in gnome.org? In my opinion gnome.org
without prefixes should be mainly a GNOME promotion site:
Hi,
Santiago Roza wrote:
it's not me, it's us. we are supposed to be a marketing team, so
we're supposed to be focused in pretty much the same direction (not
100% the same, but at least the basics). that's why i'm trying to
gather some consensus, instead of starting yet another individual
Hi,
Murray Cumming wrote:
I think both our development and marketing would be helped (to have
organisational focus) by having Personas. A university was working on them
a couple of years ago, but that effort seems to have failed.
Consensus might not be desirable for the marketing team. On some things,
sure - but we will need people acting as individuals, with all their
quirks, as long as we're on the same page and all working.
i meant consensus on objectives, basic strategy, and a couple more
things, not killing
http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2002-December/msg00482.html
So - who wants to take this on? (don't be shy)
this sounds interesting, but it also sounds like dozens of hours of
work... and unluckily i can't afford to waste that kind of time until
we have decent channels of
On Mon, Dec 05, 2005 at 09:21:17PM -0300, Santiago Roza wrote:
Well said, and I concur.
cool! one reply, and it wasn't an insult! :P
Well, I hope our community isn't so bad as that one would expect
insults and ridicule when giving critical feedback! :P
:)
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Well, I hope our community isn't so bad as that one would expect
insults and ridicule when giving critical feedback! :P
no not at all, it was just a joke.
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On Tue, Dec 06, 2005 at 03:44:20PM -0300, Santiago Roza wrote:
http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2002-December/msg00482.html
So - who wants to take this on? (don't be shy)
this sounds interesting, but it also sounds like dozens of hours of
work... and unluckily i can't
On Tue, Dec 06, 2005 at 11:37:24AM +0100, Dave Neary wrote:
Claus Schwarm wrote:
* No 'exclusive' influence on developers or product decisions. Even
the board is unable to do that.
Ahem. The board *shouldn't* do that. Not the same thing.
We are a sub-group of the GNOME project. If
Hi,
Santiago Roza wrote:
not particularly. It's beautiful to a very strange niche.
a very strange niche... that seems to be a bigger userbase than ours :(
anyway, i wasn't saying kde looks good (cause it doesn't imho), but it
does focus on pretty with no other purpose, while we don't. so
Le mardi 06 décembre 2005 à 18:08 +0100, Dave Neary a écrit :
Hi,
Murray Cumming wrote:
I think both our development and marketing would be helped (to have
organisational focus) by having Personas. A university was working on them
a couple of years ago, but that effort seems to have
I don't really want to start a thread on VCS here.
But see this thread:
http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-hackers/2005-May/msg1.html
My long ass post about it is in:
http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-hackers/2005-May/msg00036.html
Hope that helps.
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cool... could you throw it in the wiki so we can build on it? i'd do
it myself, but i don't think i should appear as the original author
:)
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