Cultural Issue with the Foot Logo

2008-10-29 Thread Theppitak Karoonboonyanan
Hello, I have thought about this issue for a while whether it should be raised or not, as the logo has been in use for a long time. And I'm not sure if it's ever discussed anywhere about the cultural issue with the GNOME's foot logo, which may obstruct GNOME promotion in some way. In Thai

Re: Cultural Issue with the Foot Logo

2008-10-29 Thread Andreas Nilsson
Theppitak Karoonboonyanan wrote: Some people simply refuse GNOME with the reason that it's impolite. That sometimes makes me feel uncomfortable to promote GNOME to new users as-is, or with distributions that try to keep upstream look-and-feels like Debian. But with Ubuntu or Fedora, where the

Re: Cultural Issue with the Foot Logo

2008-10-29 Thread Calum Benson
On 29 Oct 2008, at 09:18, Theppitak Karoonboonyanan wrote: Hello, I have thought about this issue for a while whether it should be raised or not, as the logo has been in use for a long time. And I'm not sure if it's ever discussed anywhere about the cultural issue with the GNOME's foot logo,

Re: Cultural Issue with the Foot Logo

2008-10-29 Thread Hylke Bons
It's quite funny to see how GNOME HIG advises to avoid body parts, but the actual GNOME logo is a foot(print). Do people in Thailand give the same reaction if the logo was a shoe? :) If not http://tango.freedesktop.org/favicon.ico could be an option. Hylke On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 10:18 AM,

Re: Cultural Issue with the Foot Logo

2008-10-29 Thread Theppitak Karoonboonyanan
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 6:29 PM, Hylke Bons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's quite funny to see how GNOME HIG advises to avoid body parts, but the actual GNOME logo is a foot(print). Do people in Thailand give the same reaction if the logo was a shoe? :) If not

Re: Cultural Issue with the Foot Logo

2008-10-29 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Theppitak Karoonboonyanan wrote: However, how about moving away from that part of the body? The following might be culturally offensive in some countries: ()() Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org

Re: Cultural Issue with the Foot Logo

2008-10-29 Thread Theppitak Karoonboonyanan
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 7:38 PM, Žygimantas Beručka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tr, 2008 10 29 19:15 +0700, Theppitak Karoonboonyanan rašė: On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 6:29 PM, Hylke Bons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's quite funny to see how GNOME HIG advises to avoid body parts, but the actual

Re: Cultural Issue with the Foot Logo

2008-10-29 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Thilo Pfennig wrote: Yeah, wouldnt GNOME 3.0 not a good chance to make a logo overhaul? I would suggest to try a new thing. AFAIK similar problems can occur in arabic and muslim countries. Maybe something like a GNOME hat (http://www.garbtheworld.com/items/g0085.shtml). Whenever I hear

Re: www.gnome.org

2008-10-29 Thread Olav Vitters
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 12:33:08AM +0100, Thilo Pfennig wrote: Its obvious. Professional translation is a very complex task. You can not expect a high quality from volunteers who often do not have any training and are often developers who also do translations. In relation A lot of the GNOME

Re: Cultural Issue with the Foot Logo

2008-10-29 Thread Theppitak Karoonboonyanan
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 7:58 PM, Vincent Untz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All the places where we show a GNOME foot should be themed, so just changing the icon theme should work. If this is not the case, then it's a bug, I'd say. (that's actually why you don't see the GNOME foot in Fedora, I

Re: Cultural Issue with the Foot Logo

2008-10-29 Thread Thilo Pfennig
Dave Neary schrieb: Whenever I hear people propose abandoning an old logo completely, this question comes back to me: I did not propose this just for fun. If it means that GNOME will never be used in maybe 1/4 of the worlds countries it would be stupid not to change. The question is if one

Re: Cultural Issue with the Foot Logo

2008-10-29 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Mittwoch, den 29.10.2008, 19:03 +0100 schrieb Thilo Pfennig: Dave Neary schrieb: Whenever I hear people propose abandoning an old logo completely, this question comes back to me: I did not propose this just for fun. If it means that GNOME will never be used in maybe 1/4 of the

Re: Cultural Issue with the Foot Logo

2008-10-29 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Thilo Pfennig wrote: Dave Neary schrieb: Whenever I hear people propose abandoning an old logo completely, this question comes back to me: I did not propose this just for fun. I understand. I did not reply in jest. When abandoning a logo, you are in essence saying that it has no

GNOME Events in 2009

2008-10-29 Thread Stormy Peters
I'd like to see us put together a plan for GNOME participation in conferences in 2009 or at least document what we are already planning. I started a wiki page with a number of open source events here, http://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/events/2009. If everyone could document what they know is

Re: www.gnome.org

2008-10-29 Thread Petr Kovar
Thilo Pfennig [EMAIL PROTECTED], Wed, 29 Oct 2008 00:33:08 +0100: Petr Kovar schrieb: Otherwise, it seems to be quite controversial and, may I say, disrespectful towards translators, whose work, in my humble translator's opinion, is as good and as bad as any other contributions. Its

Re: Cultural Issue with the Foot Logo

2008-10-29 Thread Theppitak Karoonboonyanan
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 3:06 AM, Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thilo Pfennig wrote: The question is if one wants to neglect cultural differences. With GNOME the question is how localization and internationalization are related to symbols that offend some people. I do not think it is

Re: Cultural Issue with the Foot Logo

2008-10-29 Thread Theppitak Karoonboonyanan
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 3:06 AM, Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which countries? Some of Thailand's neighbors certainly share this convention. I've got a confirmation from my Lao friend (Anousak in Cc:), at least. Regards, -- Theppitak Karoonboonyanan http://linux.thai.net/~thep/ --