I just stumbled upon Flattr [1]. GNOME's on their users' wishlist [2].
Currently, it's probably not going to generate much money. But it might
by worth to support such a donation system by integrating it into
GNOME's various websites.
Also, it may be used as a popularity index, if one assumes
On Tue, 2010-04-06 at 08:50 -0700, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote:
Our brand recognition seems to be mostly within the FOSS group.
People really don't know GNOME they know Ubuntu/Fedora/SuSE etc but
they don't really know the software that runs their desktop. There is
no recognizable branding in
On Tue, 2010-04-06 at 18:28 +0200, Dave Neary wrote:
Hi Andre,
Andre Klapper wrote:
Am Dienstag, den 06.04.2010, 08:08 -0500 schrieb Bharat Kapoor:
At least now I know what GNOME is an acronym for :)
The talk is about name or rename (if our mission is consistent with)
GNU Network
Hi, Marc!
On Fri, 2010-04-02 at 15:07 +0200, Marc Hanisch wrote:
...
I would also appreciate two simple but well designed webpages for
Windows and Mac OS X users (like the Gnome release pages) to show the
benefits of using Gnome on other operating systems than Unix / Linux /
BSD. There
On Thu, 2010-04-01 at 01:35 +0200, Juanjo Marin wrote:
Hi !
On the public IRC Board of Directors meeting [1] was disscused the topic
Strategic roadmap for GNOME: long term goals. One of the actions
agreed was to write a SWOT analysis for generating ideas for strategy
and I was charged of
On Tue, 2010-03-30 at 08:43 -0600, Stormy Peters wrote:
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 2:20 AM, Claus Schwarm clschw...@googlemail.com
wrote:
is hardly very convincing copy. Maybe, our problem is the conversion
rate of this page?
I agree we could make it more appealing - tell people why, ask
Hi, Paul!
I'd say the first goal should be to get some hard numbers; 'more
visible' is kind of fuzzy. 'Double the numbers' would be better, but
that presupposes knowing how many blogs already display the badge.
There's also the problem that we don't know where the problem is. For
example, the
On Mon, 2010-03-22 at 12:43 -0400, Darton Williams wrote:
[snip]
3. http://website-editors.gnome.org/products/desktop/testimonials -
Just added new intro text, initial proofreading done. There is still a
Call to Action for GNOME platform or download. Not sure what this
means.
Fixed it. If
Hi,
I'd like to offer another opinion:
On Tue, 2010-02-23 at 08:51 -0700, Stormy Peters wrote:
So I really don't think that naming releases after endangered species
will make us look like an endangered species. And I think being
associated with cute animals is almost always a good thing.
On Tue, 2010-02-23 at 09:50 -0700, Stormy Peters wrote:
And perhaps they'll remember the message because of the animal.
They might forget, or not even notice, the GNOME message by itself,
but remember the animal and the associated message.
This is the whole premise behind using images
Paul,
thanks for copying the marketing list.
Darton,
yes, if a distribution on the 'installation' page has no official howto,
remove it. The 'installation' page is there to advertise those who
maintain official guides.
The presence of different distros in each version may indeed confuse a
Hi, Darton!
On Mon, 2010-02-15 at 14:09 -0500, Darton Williams wrote:
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 7:32 AM, Lucas Rocha luc...@gnome.org wrote:
Download:
- Main page looks ok, a final review would be nice.
http://website-editors.gnome.org/download
Marking as Draft Available, proofread.
On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 22:56 +, Lucas Rocha wrote:
Hi all,
So, I've spent some time today doing lots of cleanups in the website.
It seems Claus updated some drafts from the wiki (Claus, confirm?).
Yeah, I moved all Wiki pages to the Plone installation today, except the
Why GNOME and
Hi,
you may want to check the guidelines about article length: I think
you're trying to cover too much ground in one move. It's either going
to be too long and boring or about right and superficial. Your
interview partners may not be satisfied with the result.
Just my 2cents.
Regards,
Claus
:
* GNOME's mission
* How you can support GNOME
* Use GNOME (with a link to how to get it)
* Spread the word
* Contribute (code, docs, etc)
* Donate
Can we test multiple versions?
Stormy
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 12:53 AM, Claus Schwarm
clschw...@googlemail.com wrote
like we are driving a lot
of traffic this way and we could use it better ... Maybe we could even
ask them to sign a page showing their support. And sign up for a
mailing list to hear our news in the future.
What do people think?
Stormy
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Claus Schwarm
clschw
On Tue, 2010-02-09 at 17:51 -0500, Diego Escalante Urrelo wrote:
El mar, 09-02-2010 a las 12:13 +0100, Claus Schwarm escribió:
For this, we would need at least
* a second url (say, www.gnome.org/b/friends) for a variation of the
friends page (and maybe related pages
on the Join the Free Desktop for a click through rate of .37%. I'm
going to pause that one. I already paused the Become a Friend of GNOME add
for this campaign group.)
Stormy
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 3:34 AM, Claus Schwarm clschw...@googlemail.com
wrote:
Hi!
Provided the keywords are remotely
Hi!
Provided the keywords are remotely related to the product being
advertised, CTR is not so muched determined by the keywords, but by
the copy and its interaction with the keywords.
Example 1:
Someone searching for debian gnome is really unlikely to click on an
ad for a women outreach
Well, since you offered your help: How do I get an account to be able
to start editing?
There seems to be no way to do this under website-editors.gnome.org AFAICS.
Thanks in advance,
Claus
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 7:04 PM, David Bain david.b...@alteroo.com wrote:
Glad to see that we've reached
Here's a short list of social media sites that discuss the new release:
Twitter:
http://twitter.com/#search?q=gnome%202.28
Digg:
http://digg.com/linux_unix/GNOME_2_28_Release_Notes
Reddit:
http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/9nh11/gnome_228_released/
HackerNews:
Hi,
I'm a little it late to the discussion, so I pick up some points made by
others. In general, I agree with Shane, Andre, Baris, Paul and Lefty.
First a note to the others: what terms our audience uses is irrelevant.
If there would be an unanimous vote or decision to promote the terms
GNU and
Just because one can point out some objections, doesn't mean it's worth
listening.
It's not easy to find a list of projects? What about visiting the
homepage and -- watch out, this is going to be complicated: -- clicking
the link called projects?
Also, in all these years I'm reading online
for supporting our 2010 initiatives.
Best,
Stormy
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 3:42 AM, Claus Schwarm
clschw...@googlemail.com wrote:
On Tue, 2009-08-11 at 18:38 -0600, Stormy Peters wrote:
Hi GNOME Marketing Team,
At the Advisory Board meeting at GUADEC we
On Tue, 2009-07-21 at 04:20 -0600, Stormy Peters wrote:
The file is good now.
The latest Friends of GNOME numbers are on the wiki,
http://live.gnome.org/action/AttachFile/GnomeMarketing/Tasks/FriendsOfGNOME?action=AttachFile
As you can see, while we had a good April and a terrific May,
On Tue, 2009-07-21 at 23:00 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote:
Am Dienstag, den 21.07.2009, 21:13 +0200 schrieb Claus Schwarm:
The reason is not just that there's no visible link on the wgo front
page to wgo/friends! For if we look at what people really are looking
for on wgo, it's the project
Short status report: I think, I imported most of the available
information from old drafts and www.gnome.org (wgo) by now. Now we'd
need to fill the gaps and fix wrong or misleading pieces. We may also
need to decide about a few issues.
Overall, I'm still not happy about the content structure.
-24 at 11:11 -0600, Stormy Peters wrote:
What did we sent to him?
I think we can and should do much more than we do for typical
releases. (I think we should do more for typical releases too.)
Stormy
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 6:35 AM, Claus Schwarm
clschw...@googlemail.com wrote
I like your idea of organizing tasks due to due dates.
But why don't we just sync with the regular release schedule? I've seen
something like this for the GnomeWeb here:
http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/TwoPointTwentyseven
And I like it. It's easy to pick the dates one wants to care about.
This
overthinking this?
Any volunteers? This needs to be more than a one person job.
Paul
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 5:25 AM, Claus Schwarm
clschw...@googlemail.com wrote:
I like your idea of organizing tasks due to due dates.
But why don't we just sync
Well, there's not much to say about it, really. My suggestions:
ad 1)
To promote the release of GNOME 3.0
We simply lack the necessary tools to write anything more concrete.
ad 2)
* write the release notes
* write a press release
* blog about the release
* collect press
On Mon, 2009-06-15 at 21:54 -0600, Stormy Peters wrote:
I think we need an installer - for Linux and for Windows.
And I think there's interest from several distributions to have an
application install solution so if we were willing to create one (or a
plan for one), I think we might be able
On Tue, 2009-06-16 at 12:26 +0200, Andreas Nilsson wrote:
In some cases, you can even include just a link that people can click.
You can install, say, Transmission in Ubuntu from the browser using a
link pointing to apt:transmission, and in OpenSUSE you can use the
one
click installer-thing
This looks good! I especially like how it's formulated. I guess the
paper should serve as an overview to others?
I have three suggestions for improvement (two my typical ones):
1.) Mention GNOME's different products.
At least, the desktop and dev platform should be mentioned. We might
also add
On Sat, 2009-06-13 at 11:01 -0700, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote:
Actually, the original idea I had about this is to do away with our
platform (eg the apps that make gnome.. after all the whole thing is a
distro decision these days anyways) Instead we would promote them via
adsense and drive
On Sun, 2009-06-14 at 08:02 -0700, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote:
So maybe a modification is to create our own product page for each
promoted app with a link to the original page? I still think the
foundation of the ideas is sound which is to drive interest in
products that compete with others
Stormy,
of course, I'd like to, I'm just not sure how. The application form is
the following one, isn't it?
http://services.google.com/googlegrants/application
You probably know the answers of most question better then I do. I can
only suggest answers to some question:
Organization Mission
I think the offer is bad. We've just made something similar in a month,
without being required to pay US$ 1000/month (even if it's 75% off now).
Best regards,
Claus
On Tue, 2009-06-02 at 22:07 -0400, Behdad Esfahbod wrote:
Hi list,
What's everyone's thoughts on the new AdBard [1] thing?
Stormy, thanks for your understanding. After some sleep and my second
cup of coffee, I'm slowly going back to normal. :-)
I'm also more the Let's get this started typ, except when applying for
free stuff or submitting tax forms. For some reasons, the guys on the
other side of the process often
Sort of.
I collect data for some time and wanted to start a wiki page since Luis
complained about a missing marketing plan. Here it is:
http://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/MarketAnalysis
Not quite finished yet. Please add additional data.
Best regards,
Claus
On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 16:25
I agree with Lucas' points.
Very cool to see this moving forward. Thanks Paul.
Best regards,
Claus
On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 12:05 +0100, Lucas Rocha wrote:
Hey,
Good stuff! Some quick comments inline. Removed what I didn't comment on.
2009/5/27 Paul Cutler pcut...@foresightlinux.org:
Yes, absolutely.
This is social proof for current GNOME users, for current third-party
developers, and Linux distributions like Ubuntu and Fedora -- reassuring
them all they made the right decision, when they choose GNOME.
It's also social proof for undecided users, third-party developers, and
On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 12:54 -0600, Stormy Peters wrote:
Any feedback or input? I'm going to submit this tomorrow. (Probably
with some final word smithing.)
Stormy
Yes. Please wait.
First, look at the character limits:
12345678901234567890123456789012345
Free photo editing software
Use
On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 16:26 -0600, Stormy Peters wrote:
I agree. These aren't the ads. These are supposed to be sample ads for
the application. They want to know what type of things we will say.
When we get to real ads, I will push harder to get feedback but right
now I want to get the
Thanks for the feedback. I really appreciate that. I think we could
solve the points you mentioned within my suggestion:
On Wed, 2009-05-27 at 11:48 +0100, Lucas Rocha wrote:
Agree. Even though one of the things I wanted to see more on wgo (for
2.30 release) is a nice way to highlight all the
to action on those pages.
Claus, I did download the files you provided. Could you take a look
at the test site above, which has the site layout previously agreed
to, and let us know your thoughts compared to the mockup you created?
Thanks.
Paul
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Claus Schwarm
On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 22:36 +0200, Claus Schwarm wrote:
I'll try to provide a more complete layout of the navigation later.
And here it is:
http://live.gnome.org/ClausSchwarm/WebNavigationDraft
Best regards,
Claus
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http
On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 10:38 -0600, Stormy Peters wrote:
Hear, hear on thinking about what we want people to do when they visit
wgo! (We also need to keep in mind why they came so we can make the
visit satisfying.
Yes, it's not an either/or question. We should do both.
I agree, that #4
On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 21:13 -0500, Paul Cutler wrote:
If you are interested in helping, please reply back to the Marketing
list (marketing-list@gnome.org) or add your name under Content -
Members at http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/TwoPointTwentyseven
I'll add myself to the list today.
I've
On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 21:20 -0500, Paul Cutler wrote:
Good evening,
I'd like some feedback on the Market Segmentaiton page on lgo:
http://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/MarketSegmentation.
This page was put together at the end of 2005 but I personally think
the information is over 80%
On Sun, 2009-05-10 at 19:48 +0200, Jaap A. Haitsma wrote:
However after I pushed it actually occured to me that it's probably
not a good idea to have this called Spread GNOME. We're asking people
to financially support GNOME not to encourage people to encourage
people to use GNOME.
This is
I agree with Andreas. It's true that we should want many people to put a
badge on their side, since it's a prerequisite to find more donors.
But to fix this, a prominent place for the link to the badges page will
not be sufficient. Just a small fraction of GNOME users will visit the
friends page,
On Mon, 2009-05-11 at 11:44 -0400, Luis Villa wrote:
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Paul Cutler
pcut...@foresightlinux.org wrote:
It was an assumption on my part - I was personally focusing on building a
plan around GNOME 3.0 launch - rather than an overall GNOME marketing
plan.
A
Thanks. I've prepared images in the following sizes:
* 125x125
* 160x300
* 180x150
* 234x60
* 300x250
* 468x60
* 728x90
Filenames are size.png I'm just waiting for feedback on the
suggested copy.
Best regards,
Claus
On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 20:58 +0200, Andreas Nilsson wrote:
Sure, here
I may be wrong, but it seems to me, Jaap has something different in mind.
What about:
(1) Moving Paul's embedding code to a separate page, say
wgo/friends/spread.html. At least the last two badges could also be used
by everybody who wants to support the friends of GNOME program.
(2) Offering
Another important feature of Google Analytics is the possibility to make A/B
split test.
This is a must-have for increasing conversion rates of the friends pages.
Best regards,
Claus
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 5:01 PM, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote:
Google analytics is really good (and
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org wrote:
Hi,
You've said quite a bit about what's useless Claus - any suggestions on
what would be use*ful*? Preferably, referring to what GNOME is, and what
GNOME 3 will be, rather than what you think it should be?
Well, I also
Thanks for the feedback. A few remarks:
Benefits:
=
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote:
I think we need to think about why we want end-users to use GNOME 3.0. Or
why we want them
to use GNOME at all. Those are the messages we can market. (And we know
Shaun,
you're arguing against a straw man. Nobody said, it's an either/or scenario.
Nobody said we should drop communicating what GNOME's about completely.
Nobody said anybody should drop his or her values. It's only in your head.
However, in my simple opinion with over 10 years in
Brian,
I guess that answer was directed to me. ;)
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 7:45 PM, Brian Cameron brian.came...@sun.comwrote:
That is simply not true. Because GNOME is free, the software is far
less expensive than other proprietary solutions.
You may have misunderstood the point. Writing
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 10:16 PM, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote:
Speaking of which, we do very little (if anything?) to advertise GNOME
apps. I think users pick operating systems based on apps. They have a task,
they pick an app. They don't decide to use Windows or Linux or Mac, they
Hi,
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 12:03 PM, Andreas Nilsson nisses.m...@home.sewrote:
Oh, I just finished the layout on Friday, just need to figure out the best
tint of green left basically. Should have let you know earlier.
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/184285/foundation-folder.pdf
Andreas, this is
Hi,
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 11:52 AM, Thilo Pfennig [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
Please tell me its not that nobody looked at the actual Drupal core
features before dismissing it for not providing translation possibilities?
Here's the rejection of Drupal:
Hi, Brian!
Thanks for your suggestions, I really appreciate it. Let me explain
some of my decisions:
* 'Less links': The goal of this page is to make people donate. But
every link is a possible distraction for a potential donator. We
should use nearly no links if possible.
* Millions
Hi,
these are really interesting results, and it might be useful to
remember that any campaign has a target audience.
People who never used Linux or GNOME before are unlikely to respond
and act on ads for a 'Friends of GNOME' program. To respond to their
'requirements' would be useless.
It may
Hi,
On Tue, 09 Sep 2008 21:31:21 +0200
Andreas Nilsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From
http://web.archive.org/web/20071212224222/www.gnomefiles.org/contact.php:
The developer owner of Gnomefiles' PHP source code is Eugenia
Loli. OSNews LLC (the company behind GnomeFiles) is using the source
Hi,
On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 14:38:34 -0500
Diego Escalante Urrelo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Stormy
On 9/4/08, Stormy Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does somebody on the list have the right access to do this? And the
time to do this?
I just did[0], I disabled /softwaremap/ and
Hi,
according to a post by Eugenia Loli-Queru, GNOME files was hacked and
she has no intentions to re-activate the site.[1]
It currently re-directs to osnews.com.
It would be nice if someone could remove the paragraph 'Get more
software' on the GNOME community page [2] and maybe the link on
the
Hi, Thilo!
Merging is not so a good idea. These are different topics. But we can
delete the Market Segmentation page to clean up a bit.
Cheers,
Claus
On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:15:23 +0100
Thilo Pfennig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Am Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:12:10 +0100
schrieb Thilo Pfennig [EMAIL
On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 00:09:33 +0200
Vincent Untz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The idea is interesting, and we might be able to change the schedule
for this. However, what we really need is the opinion of the
marketing team: if we do this, we have to get a really clear and
understandable message.
You're right. This was indeed unnecessary and unproductive.
I apologize.
Claus
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Hi, Quim!
I tend to disagree to your analysis. Let me explain.
The web revamp project, for example, has a rather well defined list of
members. It has clear responsibilities. And it has a rather clear
decision process. It's under specific management for over a year and
while there was some
I'm NOT argueing you should not do it. Do it. Maybe it helps. I just
doubt it will.
Since design by committee has not be proven successful in the past
When did this happen?
See here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design_by_committee
Cheers,
Claus
P.S.: It's a little funny that you're
Hi, Andreas!
I uploaded a second suggestion to my live.gnome.page. That should do
it. A plain text version is under way.
Regards,
Claus
On Thu, 03 May 2007
15:01:41 +0200 Andreas Nilsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Claus!
I'm currently replacing my text with yours, but cutpasting from
Hi,
On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 14:48:10 +0200
Philip Van Hoof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No, But I like it. Why not?
There's nothing wrong with the headline from a promotion point of view.
I'd be glad if it's choosen for the ad.
I just expected a copy like this to be rejected because of its
sales
Hi, Andres!
On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 10:51:13 +0200
Andreas Nilsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all!
Here is the ad we're going to print in Linux Magazine.
http://andreasn.se/diverse/temp/guadec2007-lm-poster.pdf
Feedback is welcome! [...]
This is a rather flat design when compared to what you
Hi, Andreas!
On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 15:24:12 +0200
Andreas Nilsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks for the feedback. Your text great.
It's really just a quick draft from a non-native speaker, full of
errors. :-)
We're going with the same style as the Guadec leaflets we did for
Fosdem [1].
On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 18:29:17 +0200
Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think it's best to avoid mentions of money in the ad - it may be an
interesting thought experiment, but you don't want to give the
impression we're doing features for money.
Oh, I wasn't expecting you to pick the
Hi,
IMHO, your suggestion needs improvement: What should the Marketing Team
do, even it would agree on your proposal?
The problem with your approach (and Dave's) is that your so-called
target markets are NOT proper targets. Here's why.
In marketing theory, you should first segment a market
Hi,
just a remark:
On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 01:47:07 +0100
Thilo Pfennig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Quim,
if you search for epiphany in google you get :
http://www.gnome.org/projects/epiphany/
This is 100% marketing. I dont see any development there.
This is because you probably didn't
Hi!
On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 15:44:17 +0100
Andreas Nilsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Rather than some numbers on what desktop enviroment that people who
visit linuxquestions.org happens to like for the day, is there any
way we could mesure how GNOME is doing compared to Windows and OSX
since
Hi, Murray!
On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 12:51:54 +0100
Murray Cumming [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would like to keep the user/admin/developer distinction that we
added for 2.12 and 2.14:
http://www.gnome.org/start/2.14/notes/en/
but lost for 2.16:
http://www.gnome.org/start/2.16/notes/en/
In
Hi!
On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 16:13:47 -0500
Gervais Mulongoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So, what task needs the most attention? We can start with that, and
work our way towards delivering some release notes for March.
Whatever it's worth, I made a few notes some time ago. It might be
useful as a
On Sun, 4 Feb 2007 00:04:17 +0200
Quim Gil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There is a lot of work to do and we don't seem to progress much (or at
least not as much as we need to deliver something good by March 14th)
We need to be clever reciclyng as much work as possible. Here is a
proposal to
Hi, Joachim!
On Sun, 4 Feb 2007 12:43:25 +
Joachim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There are no writers to create the content.
There is content at the current WGO. In fact, lots of content. That
was the point of my initial mail.
There is no indication that waiting 6 months will produce
HI, Joachim!
On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 12:44:38 +0100 (BST)
Joachim Noreiko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[snip]
On the other hand, I think wgo/projects should be moved out.
[snip]
It might be worth to consider dropping the projects.g.o idea, IMHO.
I had two goals in mind when I proposed
Hi,
On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 16:13:55 +0200
Quim Gil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We need a coordinator for the 2.18 release notes, the sooner the
better. Be it Lucas, Dave, Claus or whoever wanting to push this
until the release day.
I can sent reminder e-mails after the beta releases to a
Hi, Dave!
On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 12:19:36 +0200
Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The problem with that page is:
1. technical focus, rather than user focus (here are operations
which are faster, rather than Here are high-level usecases which
are faster)
2. The language is pretty tame. We
Hi,
a few notes:
On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 14:24:03 +0200
Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So yes, I think it is important for people interested in
promoting GNOME (and particularly release notes writers) be aware of
it.
There's a difference between being 'aware of it' and following it
On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 16:40:43 +0200
Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
OK - it's clear that you're saying all these things to people other
than those who should be hearing it.
Ehm, pardon? You started talking about the *vision* and how the
marketing team is supposed to handle things
Hi,
On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 09:21:34 +0200
Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
To my mind that is definitely a bigger feature than we will have
more eye candy in future releases thanks to optional XGL support in
Metacity.
Note that a performance page was written. It looked like this:
Hi,
On Mon, 18 Sep 2006 22:39:12 +0100
LeeTambiah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Claus Schwarm has requested an extra block for the second page being a
link to feedback form. I personally feel this is unnecessary as the
user can get information from the about section.
Short background info
Hi,
On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 13:59:25 +0200
Quim Gil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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The problem of such questions in a more general/marketing website is
that the fact of a user not finding the information she was looking
for doesn't automatically imply the page is wrong (i.e. looking for a
Hi,
On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 16:06:03 +0200
Quim Gil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 2006-09-19 at 14:55 +0200, Claus Schwarm wrote:
So, let's forget it.
If having it in the footer is so bad let's have it as last block in
the column, then. Or somewhere not in the middle of the way
Hi,
just a small note:
On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 13:41:46 +0200
Quim Gil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have two concerns with detached secondary nav bars:
- They are detached :) and not always it is clear the dependency of
the secondar nav block over the primary nav bar. [...] I think this
is
On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 02:16:56 +0300
Enver ALTIN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, 2006-09-09 at 12:40 +0200, Claus Schwarm wrote:
Our release notes should not be a workaround for our ugly 'About'
section. This is a bad and useless habit of the GNOME release notes.
I can't see why it's a bad
On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 12:57:43 +0200
Quim Gil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Certainly GNOME does not sell (but see below). Does that mean that
Apple (or Microsoft) are in a different league?
It just means that there's a need for Apple to write for ordinary
users. They interact with consumers
On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 21:40:35 +0100 (BST)
Joachim Noreiko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But Quim's general point is sound: that instead of
each stable release being 'well this is the stuff we
managed to get done the last 6 months', we should
think about trying to plan what each release should
aim
On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 16:53:38 +0200 (CEST)
Murray Cumming [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Press releases are for a different audience (journalists), who are
used to looking for the overview at the end, in the description of the
organisations mentioned.
I think this is a misunderstanding.
The
Hi, Quim!
You didn't mention the obvious differences of GNOME and Apple:
* GNOME does not sell an operating system.
* GNOME does not sell computers.
* GNOME has no stores to sell stuff.
Apple formulates for ordinary users because it has products for
ordinary users. We don't.
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