On Wed, 2005-08-17 at 18:13 +0200, Арангел Ангов wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Anyone tried to make a liveCD using a daily breezy build?
Yes :)
>
> I downloaded the one from yesterday, added thunderbird and firefox for
> windows in the winprogs dir and changed all the splash screens and
> background and s
Hi,
Anyone tried to make a liveCD using a daily breezy build?
I downloaded the one from yesterday, added thunderbird and firefox for
windows in the winprogs dir and changed all the splash screens and
background and stuff. The CD builds and I can boot it but the problem is
that when It's loadi
> > There will be some odd non-package-managed muck due to the
> > customisations, but that's not a huge cross to bear. Then, if a user
> > wanted to switch to a standard Ubuntu install, he or she could just
> > install the standard metapackages. Presto. :-)
>
> Yeah, perhaps we could say 'if yo
On 7/28/05, Jeff Waugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> > I'd be fairly happy if we can figure out a way such that an installed
> > liveCD 'becomes' an Ubuntu install with very slight default changes at the
> > first update.
>
> Breezy will ship with "Ubuntu Express", which is a LiveCD based ins
On Tue, 2005-07-26 at 15:46 +0200, Marcus Bauer wrote:
> On Tue, 2005-07-26 at 13:58 +0200, Christian Meyer wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I just want to throw in something:
>
> [...]
> Christian, development here has been done in an open way since months
> and everbody is invited to participate. But you
Hi,
I just want to throw in something:
During GUADEC in Stuttgart I was talking to Luis about a joined effort
regarding LIVE CD's. Currently, every single person creates his/her own
LIVE CD. This is bad, it's not really wise. Luis agreed, that we should
work on a common base where everyone can pu
On Mon, 2005-07-25 at 20:20 +0200, Claus Schwarm wrote:
> I'm also disappointed that gparted doesn't seem to be considered in
> Ubuntu; especially because the developer of gparted was inspired due to
> one of my forum posts. ;)
>
Heh :) that's not true, i was simply wondering what to do with my
> I'd be fairly happy if we can figure out a way such that an installed
> liveCD 'becomes' an Ubuntu install with very slight default changes at the
> first update.
Breezy will ship with "Ubuntu Express", which is a LiveCD based installer,
which will happily install whatever is on the LiveCD. Te
On Tue, 2005-07-26 at 13:58 +0200, Christian Meyer wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I just want to throw in something:
[...]
Christian, development here has been done in an open way since months
and everbody is invited to participate. But you are right: it would
definitly make sense to stop the parallel efforts
On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 15:49:27 -0300
"B.Hakvoort" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Heh :) that's not true, i was simply wondering what to do with my
> holidays :P
>
Please let me know when your next holiday starts, then ;)
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Claus
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On Tue, 2005-07-26 at 01:28 +0200, Marcus Bauer wrote:
> Hey, have I lately talked about KLA? :) Did I mention that they are
> spreading out 50.000 copies to schools in France?
Is that a GNOME-based project? Maybe we can do a story on them.
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On Mon, 2005-07-25 at 16:58 +0200, Marcus Bauer wrote:
> As stated on the german gnome website
> ( http://www.gnome-ev.de/index.php/GNOME_LiveCD ):
> "I would prefer this work/documentation to be done as part of the
> regular GNOME and Ubuntu LiveCD projects, unless there is some reason
> not to co
On Mon, 2005-07-25 at 23:34 +0200, Marcus Bauer wrote:
> Hi Murray,
>
> > The GNOME LiveCDs are for marketing, and testing, not for installing or
> > otherwise messing with your system.
>
> do you really mean that installing GNOME is "messing with someones
> system"?
Yes, because it's just messi
Am Montag, den 25.07.2005, 16:58 +0200 schrieb Marcus Bauer:
> On Mon, 2005-07-25 at 15:33 +0200, Andreas Mueller wrote:
>
> > I am surprised that there is ZERO communication.
[...]
I thought it should be possible, to cooperate in a way, i'll CC:
chrisime as the reasonable person.
> > We're ( G
On 7/25/05, Luis Villa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 7/25/05, Luis Villa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 7/25/05, Luis Villa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > * put up gnome.org/projects/livecd so that gnoppix.org can be redirected
> > > there
> >
> > BTW, I've started a very sketchy site:
> >
On 7/25/05, Luis Villa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 7/25/05, Luis Villa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > * put up gnome.org/projects/livecd so that gnoppix.org can be redirected
> > there
>
> BTW, I've started a very sketchy site:
> http://gnome.org/projects/livecd/
>
> Probably not up yet, bec
On 7/25/05, Marcus Bauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 7/26/05, Luis Villa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 7/25/05, Marcus Bauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Hey, have I lately talked about KLA? :) Did I mention that they are
> > > spreading out 50.000 copies to schools in France? They are
On 7/25/05, Luis Villa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> * put up gnome.org/projects/livecd so that gnoppix.org can be redirected there
BTW, I've started a very sketchy site:
http://gnome.org/projects/livecd/
Probably not up yet, because I screwed up the Makefile. I'll fill it
in more later tonight, a
On 7/26/05, Luis Villa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 7/25/05, Marcus Bauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hey, have I lately talked about KLA? :) Did I mention that they are
> > spreading out 50.000 copies to schools in France? They are two and a
> > half part time developers. There are no timely
On 7/25/05, Marcus Bauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey, have I lately talked about KLA? :) Did I mention that they are
> spreading out 50.000 copies to schools in France? They are two and a
> half part time developers. There are no timely security updates.
I'd be embarassed if I were them, if
On 7/26/05, Corey Burger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Wow, that was a lot of anger.
*smile*
> I am not advocating that gnome stop marketing itself. I am merely
> saying that once you start installing something on a machine, you have
> to support it. And no, gnomesupport is not the kind of support
Jumping in kind of late.
I agree with what you're saying. The LiveCD should clearly state
that this is for demonstration purposes only and does not reflect the
final product which must be obtained from a "qualified" distribution.
I leave qualified to whoever we want. I was going to start a new t
On 7/25/05, Marcus Bauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 7/25/05, Corey Burger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The idea of an installable live cd is a great one, until you realize
> > the implications.
> >
> > The basically makes Gnome a distribution, which does the following bad
> > things:
> >
>
I hope each of these livecds will have clear instructions on how to
obtain an iso to burn with the right language. Otherwise nobody
is going to isntall it. One should apply Fitz law in obtaining
things as well. ;)
This might even me downloading the iso image from the livecd itself
and putting it
Wow, that was a lot of anger.
I am not advocating that gnome stop marketing itself. I am merely
saying that once you start installing something on a machine, you have
to support it. And no, gnomesupport is not the kind of support I am
talking about. I am talking about security patches and similar
On 7/25/05, Corey Burger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The idea of an installable live cd is a great one, until you realize
> the implications.
>
> The basically makes Gnome a distribution, which does the following bad things:
>
> 1. Gnome does not have the support structure to support average use
On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 22:35:48 +0100
Simos Xenitellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Now I have a better understanding of what you mean.
>
Cool! :)
> If you also listed your suggestions for action on the LiveCD, I would
> have the full picture. As is, I can only conjecture that you would
> rather
On 7/25/05, Simos Xenitellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Just like Ubuntu, they send you by post two CDs, an install CD and a
> LiveCD.
They are going to change that with the next release.
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The idea of an installable live cd is a great one, until you realize
the implications.
The basically makes Gnome a distribution, which does the following bad things:
1. Gnome does not have the support structure to support average users,
nor should it gain one. That is the job of Novell, RH, Ubunt
Στις 25/Ιούλ/2005, ημέρα Δευτέρα και ώρα 16:54, ο/η Claus Schwarm
έγραψε:
> On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 15:45:37 +0100
> Simos Xenitellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
> > I cannot understand your point.
> >
>
> I'll try to explain.
>
> If we from the marketing group continue to use expressions as '
Hi Murray,
> The GNOME LiveCDs are for marketing, and testing, not for installing or
> otherwise messing with your system.
do you really mean that installing GNOME is "messing with someones
system"? Since quite some time I thought that this is the coolest
thing that can happen to a computer...
C
Στις 25/Ιούλ/2005, ημέρα Δευτέρα και ώρα 17:26, ο/η Marcus Bauer έγραψε:
> On Mon, 2005-07-25 at 15:45 +0100, Simos Xenitellis wrote:
>
> > Maybe I am wrong, my view is that we (GNOME Marketing) want to get a
> > LiveCD ISO image out to the masses
> > that support both English and other languages
On Mon, 2005-07-25 at 13:31 -0300, Santiago Roza wrote:
> "P.S.: Speaking of LiveCDs in general: Without a graphical partion tool ..."
The GNOME LiveCDs are for marketing, and testing, not for installing or
otherwise messing with your system.
[snip]
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If I'm not mistaken, another LiveCD has a graphical install tool,
already.
http://www.pclinuxonline.com/pclos/index.html
It's KDE based, unfortunatly, but remastering seems to be rather easy,
and according to their forums, GNOME's in their repositories.
I'm also disappointed that gparted doesn'
"P.S.: Speaking of LiveCDs in general: Without a graphical partion tool ..."
i've seen this issue (graphical partition tool) in the breezy bounty
list (with priority = high), and i wondered why wasn't gparted
(gparted.sourceforge.net) being considered as a suitable option...
it's gtk-based and equ
On Mon, 2005-07-25 at 15:45 +0100, Simos Xenitellis wrote:
> Maybe I am wrong, my view is that we (GNOME Marketing) want to get a
> LiveCD ISO image out to the masses
> that support both English and other languages. We (GNOME Marketing) are
> flexible with how it is done, we would
> like it done
On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 15:45:37 +0100
Simos Xenitellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I cannot understand your point.
>
I'll try to explain.
If we from the marketing group continue to use expressions as 'geek' or
'newbie', we'll be stuck in ongoing discussions without any progress.
What do you me
søn, 24,.07.2005 kl. 23.58 +0200, skrev Marcus Bauer:
> Hi, creating a customized GNOME liveCD yourself is easy and takes just a
> few minutes of time:
[...]
> I still think it would be cool for the next GNOME release to have a
> couple dozen localized liveCDs (naturally based on 2.12 and with in
On Mon, 2005-07-25 at 15:33 +0200, Andreas Mueller wrote:
> I am surprised that there is ZERO communication.
Hi Andreas,
googling for "gnome livecd" gives as first hit:
http://live.gnome.org/GnomeLiveCd
Additionally it has even been featured on planet.gnome.org and Luis
Villa is quite talkative
Claus Schwarm wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 09:14:47 -0400
Luis Villa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
things I think in the end I disagree with gnoppix about:
* naming; I want it called simply the GNOME LiveCD. No one outside a
core group of geeks knows what knoppix is, and so calling it gnoppix
is
Luis Villa wrote:
[FWIW, I actually put together a 2.11 liveCD at one point, but it
ended up being an 800M iso, so I did not distribute ;)
On 7/25/05, Luis Villa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Luis (hoping to push out a 2.11 liveCD at some point in the next few
days, we'll see)
gnoppi
On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 16:06:12 +0200
Claus Schwarm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> They probably heard the word
> 'Knoppix' more often that they heard the word 'GNOME'.
>
In Germany, that is.
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On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 09:14:47 -0400
Luis Villa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> things I think in the end I disagree with gnoppix about:
> * naming; I want it called simply the GNOME LiveCD. No one outside a
> core group of geeks knows what knoppix is, and so calling it gnoppix
> is (1) marketing to th
Am Montag, den 25.07.2005, 09:08 -0400 schrieb Luis Villa:
> On 7/25/05, Marcus Bauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Mon, 2005-07-25 at 00:22 -0400, Luis Villa wrote:
[...]
> > > Luis (hoping to push out a 2.11 liveCD at some point in the next few
> > > days, we'll see)
> >
> > gnoppix.org cl
[FWIW, I actually put together a 2.11 liveCD at one point, but it
ended up being an 800M iso, so I did not distribute ;)
On 7/25/05, Luis Villa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Luis (hoping to push out a 2.11 liveCD at some point in the next few
> > > days, we'll see)
> >
> > gnoppix.org claims to
On 7/25/05, Marcus Bauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 2005-07-25 at 00:22 -0400, Luis Villa wrote:
>
> > > 1. download and unpack http://project77.info/gnomelive/liveCD-0.2.tgz
> >
> > grabbing now. Mind if I commit the stuff to CVS once I've reviewed?
>
> Do as you like. It comes at th
On Mon, 2005-07-25 at 00:22 -0400, Luis Villa wrote:
> > 1. download and unpack http://project77.info/gnomelive/liveCD-0.2.tgz
>
> grabbing now. Mind if I commit the stuff to CVS once I've reviewed?
Do as you like. It comes at the classical os license: you can do
whatever pleases you but you a
Great to see you surface again, dude! Hope everything is well.
On 7/24/05, Marcus Bauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi, creating a customized GNOME liveCD yourself is easy and takes just a
> few minutes of time:
>
>
> It involves three simple steps:
>
> 1. download and unpack http://project7
Hi, creating a customized GNOME liveCD yourself is easy and takes just a
few minutes of time:
It involves three simple steps:
1. download and unpack http://project77.info/gnomelive/liveCD-0.2.tgz
2. ./make_livecd.sh en en_US
3. burn the resulting .iso onto a CD-ROM and enjoy!
You can cus
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