I'm looking askance at this. I find the arguments in favor of GNU/
Linux to be specious: if you examine the makeup of early Linux
distros, following the FSF's reasoning would obligate one to call it
X/GNU/Linux, at least. Further, I'm troubled at the idea that we'd
attempt to conform to FSF
I'm looking askance at this. I find the arguments in favor of
GNU/Linux to be specious: if you examine the makeup of early Linux
distros, following the FSF's reasoning would obligate one to call it
X/GNU/Linux, at least. Further, I'm troubled at the idea that we'd
attempt to conform to FSF
2009/9/18 Brian Cameron brian.came...@sun.com:
Marketing Team:
The Free Software Foundation (FSF) encourages the usage of the term
GNU/Linux instead of the term Linux, and also discourages referring
to free software and licenses as open source. Their argument, which
I think is valid, is
Hi,
I'm a little it late to the discussion, so I pick up some points made by
others. In general, I agree with Shane, Andre, Baris, Paul and Lefty.
First a note to the others: what terms our audience uses is irrelevant.
If there would be an unanimous vote or decision to promote the terms
GNU and
Claus, thanks for the email, and your quotes from Miguel are helpful.
I think you bring up a good point as we are mostly, with the exception of
Stormy and Rosanna, a volunteer staff.
Brian - do we have a list of terminology the FSF would prefer us to use
other than free software and GNU/Linux?
Paul:
Claus, thanks for the email, and your quotes from Miguel are helpful.
I think you bring up a good point as we are mostly, with the exception
of Stormy and Rosanna, a volunteer staff.
True. Perhaps, the GNOME community can recommend terminology for
volunteers and/or help explain the
Marketing Team:
The Free Software Foundation (FSF) encourages the usage of the term
GNU/Linux instead of the term Linux, and also discourages referring
to free software and licenses as open source. Their argument, which
I think is valid, is that doing so helps to highlight free software and
Well I dont think many people outside of FSF care. Its harder to say
GNU/Linux and more people simply call it just linux. We should respect
the FSF but its not a big deal in my opinion. Its just politics.
Regards
Shane Fagan
On Fri, 2009-09-18 at 17:07 -0500, Brian Cameron wrote:
Marketing
Am Freitag, den 18.09.2009, 17:07 -0500 schrieb Brian Cameron:
The Free Software Foundation (FSF) encourages the usage of the term
GNU/Linux instead of the term Linux, and also discourages referring
to free software and licenses as open source.
Thoughts?
See
Shane:
Well I dont think many people outside of FSF care. Its harder to say
GNU/Linux and more people simply call it just linux. We should respect
the FSF but its not a big deal in my opinion. Its just politics.
It may be politics, but within the context of the GNOME marketing-list,
there
So then we just use GNU/Linux and Free and Open Source. Its not too
hard to do.
On Fri, 2009-09-18 at 17:41 -0500, Brian Cameron wrote:
Shane:
Well I dont think many people outside of FSF care. Its harder to say
GNU/Linux and more people simply call it just linux. We should respect
the
A couple different thoughts:
* The most important thing we can do as marketers is know our audience.
While I respect Brian's comment we should be sensitive to politics, it's
really dependent on document we're writing and whom it is for.
* Most of our marketing is at end users - and for that
Hi Brian;
There was a big discussion about GNU/Linux terminology usage in
documentation years ago. Here is the starting thread about that
discussion:
http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-doc-list/2006-July/msg00200.html
I didn't re-read whole discussion but I remember there wasn't any
Paul:
* The most important thing we can do as marketers is know our audience.
While I respect Brian's comment we should be sensitive to politics, it's
really dependent on document we're writing and whom it is for.
Agreed.
* Most of our marketing is at end users - and for that reason, I
Baris:
There was a big discussion about GNU/Linux terminology usage in
documentation years ago. Here is the starting thread about that
discussion:
http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-doc-list/2006-July/msg00200.html
I didn't re-read whole discussion but I remember there wasn't any
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 6:19 PM, Brian Cameron brian.came...@sun.comwrote:
Paul:
* The most important thing we can do as marketers is know our audience.
While I respect Brian's comment we should be sensitive to politics, it's
really dependent on document we're writing and whom it is for.
Paul:
My point is that we are being asked (or recommended) that we following
their naming guidelines. My point is how does the FSF respect GNOME - I
am wiling to bet $100 a normal user couldn't find the
http://directory.fsf.org/project/gnome/ link - you have to go their
searchable database
On 9/18/09 3:40 PM, Andre Klapper ak...@gmx.net wrote:
Am Freitag, den 18.09.2009, 17:07 -0500 schrieb Brian Cameron:
The Free Software Foundation (FSF) encourages the usage of the term
GNU/Linux instead of the term Linux, and also discourages referring
to free software and licenses as open
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