[Marxism] Questions and answers about Palestinian hunger strikes

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A useful FAQ session on Palestinian hunger strikes:

https://rdln.wordpress.com/2016/08/04/questions-and-answers-on-palestinian-hunger-strikes/
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Re: [Marxism] Fwd: The Sanders campaign is officially over. Now his supporters wonder: What’s next? - The Washington Post

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What percentage of the Green Party is black?

Clay Claiborne, Director
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On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 8:26 AM, Dennis Brasky  wrote:

> No one is saying or implying that Blacks are "stupid" for opposing Trump.
> This is a bit demagogic, something we've already heard from Hillary
> supporters. Neither are many on the Left who will be supporting Clinton
> merely to stop Trump "stupid" (at least many of them!), despite her record
> of supporting the sanctions, the wars against Afghanistan and Iraq, NAFTA,
> welfare "reform", and bank deregulation. It is the absence of a serious
> Left alternative - "a crisis of leadership" that is responsible for people
> supporting politicians whose policies they hate. Supporting the Green Party
> despite its limitations, is the first major step that our side can take to
> create that Left alternative.
>
> On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 12:40 AM, Clay Claiborne 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 8:54 AM, Dennis Brasky 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill's sanctions which killed half a million Iraqi kids in the 1990s and
>>> the 2003 war that Hillary endorsed which killed over one million, there's
>>> also plenty to fear from her presidency. Whichever turd wins, we lose!
>>>
>> Only a white person could say that because any colored person in America
>> is already facing more slights and abuses in the past year because of the
>> campaign of one of these turds and not the other.
>>
>> Kennedy & Johnson's war in Vietnam killed more people of color than the
>> KKK could ever think about. So what's your point? My point that they, and
>> even Bill Clinton, weren't consciously building a white supremacist mass
>> movement that lead to increased attacks on you and yours. Maybe that's not
>> been your problem? Have you been subjected to more racist attacks as the
>> Trump campaign has "progressed."
>>
>> We'll hear a lot of talk about not voting for the lesser of two evils in
>> the white left this year but there is a reason why 88% of colored people in
>> the US oppose Trump and its not because they are stupid.
>>
>>
>>
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[Marxism] Reply to Nation article on guaranteed income

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(Please read enough to assess   if useful enough to work to disentangle syntax

Posted om Facebook group: Its About time

This  

Is not progressive, IMO.
It reverts to the mix of charity and counter-revolutionary efforts of liberal 
capitalism to appease the working class as the law of capital creation 
repeatedly accumulates it in private hands.   And mainly, it expresses &/or 
reveals, -- and for sure propagates:  ignorance of the labor theory of value 
once well understood by students of Adam Smith on the one hand and Karl Marx on 
the other.

The difference between Marx and Smith was Marx's insight that The only source 
of Capital (hence title of book) is Surplus Value.

Surplus value of what?
Of unpaid labor time. 

Robots reduce labor time.  They can not create it.

https://www.thenation.com/article/these-policies-could-move-america-toward-a-universal-basic-income/

Without carrying on too long here about the distinction between all the 
referents of the two words: 
"work" and "labor"(Obra y trabajo; oeuvre et travail), 
allow me to remind members of the group who are Marxists that Marx was not anti 
creation of capital.  He opposed, often with sarcastic cruelty, proposals and 
campaigns offered to socialists, communists, workers, and revolutionaries to 
solve the cyclical  crises of the capitalist mode of economic production by 
abolishing capital or the creation of wealth, which he understood was not due 
to supply and demand, nor the (or a) market come, which are necessary 
conditions, but merely conditions. 

Marx used the term "necessary labor" in two contexts:

1)The necessary labor value as a function of the world average of the labor 
time required to produce commodities of equal use value under all the different 
modes of their production available in the same market ( Someone, google a good 
quote that enables reader  to "get" a)that commodities are produced for 
exchange for The  commodity whose use value is its universal acceptance  as the 
currency (means, or money) of exchange,  and b) exchanged in a competitive 
market where the "just-as-good" commodity is cheaper because it contains less 
World Average Labor Time(WALT)

2) The necessary labor value of the labor power that produces the commodities.  
This is determined by the labor time of OTHERS  embedded in the commodities 
Labor must purchase to reproduce themselves and thus be paid enough to purchase 
( ditto: someone, please provide a classic familiar quote).  In other words,   
now finally, thanks to globalization, World Average Labor Time (WALT or 
Necessary Labor 2)  of others that Labor 1 must consume to be able to add WALT 
or Necessary Labor 1.

I find it easier to grasp as:

surplus Value = Social Surplus = difference between WALT added and WALT 
consumed = the real Common Wealth

This may or not be the place to express my gratitude to Fay Aptheker for 
answering after an embarrassingly long silence  by all eating supper on Doris 
Greiser and Erwin Marquit's back porch the awkward question that I overcame my 
fear of  embarrassing myself to ask:  "What do they call Surplus Value in 
Socalism? You have to keep creating it, don't you? Or go back to the cave?" Or 
something like that.She simply said, "Social surplus", and the conversation 
resumed, I assumed, to cover the embarrassment of my revealed ignorance.( Marx 
did use the term Social Surplus, but I can not find his equating it to 
socialized surplus value.  He uses it as general pre-privatized and maybe even 
pre-monetized surplus value). The conversation  was at the end of the first  
MEP (marxist Education project) symposium I attended.  It was in Minneapolis, 
after the Berlin Wall  nov 9, 1989before Gorbachev resignation dec 25,1991.  I 
did just google for those dates.  It is IMO tragic that I can't find much at 
all about the early MEP prior to what looks like a revival since the founders 
died.

I also want to add here the importance of understanding the difference between 
"WORKING TIME REQUIRED TO BUY" as used in the UBS's  Prices and Earnings in 
cities around the world 
https://www.ubs.com/microsites/prices-earnings/prices-earnings.html (which does 
determine the exchange value and/or monetary price of labor power: wages or 
salary) versus "LABOR TIME CONTAINED WITHIN".   It is because the industrial 
capitalists  who invested to increase labor productivity, thus decreasing the 
average labor time per unit that they 1) gained a competitive price advantage 
and profited from taking over another(s)' market and 2) could continue to 
"grow" 

[Marxism] Esteban Morales on Cuban press censorship

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Re: [Marxism] Liberals (and leftists) Keep Calling Donald Trump a Dove

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Yep, Amith is right: Trump's statements on Palestine are now way to
the right of Clinton's. Even to the right of Obama, who within a year
or so of becoming president, so completely betrayed his initial
pro-Palestine comments that he was labelled, not wrongly, the most
pro-Israeli president in US history (despite his personal tiff with
Bibi), and has signed onto the biggest US "aid" package to Israel, or
to any country ever, in history.

Wow, what a relief that Charles Davis has finally put together this
excellent article. I have no brief for Clinton, of course, or of
calling her a "hawk," but I was having trouble with the question of
"hawk compared to who," since the only relevant comparisons were with
either Obama or with Trump. She may be no dove compared to either, but
she is also no hawk compared to either. Not at all. Not on Palestine,
nor Syria, nor Iraq, nor the drone wars. Even if Trump now says his
2003 support for the invasion of Iraq was a mistake, how does that
differ from Clinton who now says her 2003 support for the invasion of
Iraq was a mistake.

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> Should add he also went 180 on Palestine and backs full-scale Israeli
> confiscation of the West Bank.
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[Marxism] Fwd: PODCAST: Dealing with Patriarchy in Revolutionary Movements

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The inaugural episode of the Communist Labor Party’s podcast series, 
featuring Sophia Burns of TNS’s editorial board. Sophia explores the 
ways patriarchy, toxic masculinity, and gender-based divisions of labor 
impact power, prestige, and perceptions of “radicalness” within activism 
(and offers ways to change that).


http://www.thenorthstar.info/?podcast=podcast-dealing-with-patriarchy-in-revolutionary-movements
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Re: [Marxism] Zizek on transgenders

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It’s through an LARB promoted channel: 
http://thephilosophicalsalon.com/the-sexual-is-political/


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No, I linked to it from twitter a couple of days ago. I’ll look.

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Re: [Marxism] Cornel West: 'Why I am backing Jill Stein'

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The record would tend to indicate that racist thuggery by the police was
embolded by the Obama presidency and its militarization of the police, its
tendency to transform them into something more resembling an army of
occupation..

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> Racist cops, like neocon warmakers and Wall Street hustlers feel empowered
> because not one of them has been prosecuted by Obama's "Justice"
> Department.
>
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> marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote:
>
> >
> > I think racist cops already feel more empowered by the Trump campaign. If
> > he wins, they will shoot more black people than if Clinton wins. CW may
> > look forward to that kind of catastrophe but most blacks would like to
> > avoid it by beating Trump.
> >
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[Marxism] Fanon question

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I am currently working on a project involving Fanon and wonder if anyone
knows a study guide worth using?

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Re: [Marxism] Zizek on transgenders

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On 8/3/16 5:17 PM, jamie pitman via Marxism wrote:


He's wrote a long piece in LARB on this if you don't want dead eyes and greasy 
hair with your Hegelian bigotry



I couldn't find anything. Do you have a link?
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Re: [Marxism] Liberals (and leftists) Keep Calling Donald Trump a Dove

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Should add he also went 180 on Palestine and backs full-scale Israeli
confiscation of the West Bank.
>
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[Marxism] Liberals (and leftists) Keep Calling Donald Trump a Dove

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https://newrepublic.com/article/135775/liberals-keep-calling-donald-trump-dove

Why Do Liberals Keep Calling Donald Trump a Dove?
Only in America could proposals to bomb at least three nations and
indefinitely occupy another be labeled “isolationism.”
By Charles Davis
August 3, 2016

While the Democrat made the case for liberal militarism, the Republican
attacked the interventionist status quo. “Yeah, I’m not so sure the role
of the United States is to go around the world and say, ‘This is the way
it’s gotta be,’” he said, as if he’d read his Chomsky. “I don’t think
our troops ought to be used for what’s called ‘nation-building,’” he
continued, lashing out at occupations that had killed U.S. troops and
civilians alike. “I think what we need to do is convince the people who
live in the lands they live in to build the nations. Maybe I’m missing
something here.”

That was in 2000 and that Republican, George W. Bush, put America’s
perceived interests first after winning the race for the White House—by
ignoring effete international prohibitions against aggressive war,
bypassing the United Nations, and unilaterally invading Iraq. Now, 13
years later, there is another Republican, Donald Trump, railing against
the “arrogance” of U.S foreign policy in a race against a Democrat whose
record is marked by support for war, including the one launched by the
last conservative critic of liberals with bombs.

Bush’s change of heart should give the opinionated class some pause:
running against the foreign policy of those in power is what those
seeking it for themselves do. And past critiques of another person’s
wars are often forgotten once a critic becomes president and starts
looking forward to starting wars of their own. But making the same
mistakes over and over again is the definition of punditry and, in this
the second decade of Bush’s wars, a bloated demagogue’s version of
Bush’s 2000-era rhetoric has led some commentators to ask: Is Donald
Trump woke?

“Donald the Dove, Hillary the Hawk,” a column by The New York Times’
Maureen Dowd, was what seems to have kickstarted a rash of takes in the
mainstream media depicting Trump as something of a belligerent peacenik.
“The prime example of commander-in-chief judgment Trump offers is the
fact that, like Obama, he thought the invasion of Iraq was a stupid
idea,” Dowd wrote. (Trump actually supported the war back in 2003, but
has called it a mistake in 2016, when it would be a mistake not to.) He
wants to “end nation-building,” she wrote, positioning him to “the left”
of Hillary Clinton.

Others have suggested that the Republican candidate wouldn’t stop at
ending America’s nation-building occupations.

Is Donald Trump woke?

“At least President Trump would ground the drones,” declared The
Guardian’s Simon Jenkins, attempting to view a poisoned chalice of white
nationalism as half-full. “Trump’s foreign policy line has been clearer
than his domestic one,” Jenkins argued, describing the former as “a
revival of Republican isolationism.”

The Intercept likewise described Trump’s foreign policy as “know-nothing
isolationism.” While noting that the billionaire is “hardly the
candidate of peace,” Rania Khalek argued that, traditionally,
“Republicans have represented the more militaristic extreme.” Today,
with Trump attacking Hillary over U.S. policy in places such as Iraq and
Libya, “it’s not so clear.”

The Nation has more than just hinted that Trump might be the lesser
evil, in terms of dead foreigners. “Donald Trump Could Be the
Military-Industrial Complex’s Worst Nightmare,” reads the headline of a
story by national affairs correspondent William Greider, which argues
that Trump, “usually bellicose in style and substance, is singing, ‘Give
peace a chance.’” Indeed, the Republican nominee is proposing “a radical
standard for testing U.S. policy abroad, both in war and peace: Is it
actually in America’s interest?”

One popular online activist has even suggested it’s the
anti-imperialist’s duty to back Trump because, proto-fascism aside, at
least he won’t start another war. American “privilege,” Cassandra
Fairbanks wrote, is what “allows you to vote for a woman who has
destroyed countless lives in Honduras, Libya, Iraq, and on.” Left-wing
filmmaker John Pilger has called Trump a “maverick,” suggesting he’s the
lesser evil in a race against Clinton because “he doesn’t want to go to
war with Russia or China” (the U.S.’s bombing partner in Syria and the
manufacturer of all its goods, respectively). The less vulgar version of
the sentiment is expressed in a popular meme among cynical realists:
that the 2016 election pits a guy who will get people killed at home
versus 

Re: [Marxism] Zizek on transgenders

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I think you have to take these people for what they're worth instead of
expecting genius. People who think they are experts at everything should be
viewed with suspicion.

She's not exactly a Marxist but I thought Judith Butler's views on trans
were quite illuminating.


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He's wrote a long piece in LARB on this if you don't want dead eyes and greasy 
hair with your Hegelian bigotry

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[Marxism] Zizek on transgenders

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Zizek now joins the Jack Barnes SWP cult and the Socialist Equality 
Party in denouncing transgender demands about using restrooms based on 
identity as a capitalist plot. How in the world can anybody on the left 
take this walking bag of shit seriously?


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Re: [Marxism] Cornel West: 'Why I am backing Jill Stein'

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Racist cops, like neocon warmakers and Wall Street hustlers feel empowered
because not one of them has been prosecuted by Obama's "Justice" Department.

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> I think racist cops already feel more empowered by the Trump campaign. If
> he wins, they will shoot more black people than if Clinton wins. CW may
> look forward to that kind of catastrophe but most blacks would like to
> avoid it by beating Trump.
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Re: [Marxism] Cornel West: 'Why I am backing Jill Stein'

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>
> CORNEL WEST: A neoliberal disaster is one who generates a mass
> incarceration regime, who deregulates banks and markets, who promotes chaos
> of regime change in Libya,

So we can see that CW has bought in to what is essentially a "Left" white
chauvinist line on the Libyan revolution.

Same would be true in terms of foreign policy. Foreign policy, for me, is
> very, very important in terms of the no-fly zones in Syria that can lead
> toward war, the kind of encirclement of Russia.

And probably sees the Syrian revolutionaries through the same white
chauvinist lens.

> I can deal with catastrophe

he's in a better position than most.

> , not by panicking and being driven by fear,

fear is a very important survival instinct. People are right to fear fire
and be driven by that fire.

> but I can look the catastrophe in the face and still tell the truth and
> still go down swinging

most people don't want to go down at all let alone with a smile.

> with a smile and, most importantly, love, Coltrane's love—and for me,
> Jesus's love—at the center of how we proceed.

He says Trump is a neofascist yet he seems to look forward to a Trump
presidency. CW talks about Trump's

> CORNEL WEST: Because neofascism in the United States takes the form of big
> money, big banks, big corporations, tied to xenophobic scapegoating of the
> vulnerable, like Mexicans and Muslims and women and black folk, and
> militaristic policies abroad, with strongman, charismatic, autocratic
> personality, and that's what Donald Trump is.

That's about a close as he gets to talking about the white supremacist
nature of the Trump movement. The growth of white supremacist organizations
with his candidacy. Nothing about #SummerOfChaos etc.

I think racist cops already feel more empowered by the Trump campaign. If
he wins, they will shoot more black people than if Clinton wins. CW may
look forward to that kind of catastrophe but most blacks would like to
avoid it by beating Trump.


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[Marxism] Trump's 1840s roots - the founder of the Know Nothings

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http://www.salon.com/2016/08/03/meet_the_donald_trump_of_the_1840s_lewis_charles_levin_rode_the_wave_of_righteous_anger_partner/?source=newsletter
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[Marxism] Book review - The British, the Hindus, the Sikhs, and the Muslims

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http://www.delanceyplace.com/view-archives.php?p=3128
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Re: [Marxism] [UCE] Fwd: Morbid Symptoms | Louis Proyect: The Unrepentant Marxist

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Great review of a great book.
I would only add that with the US bombing of Libya it's worth reviewing
everything Achcar wrote on Libya. (And I'll look for video on Robin
Yassin-Kassab's riff on that in which he mocks Westerns' denial of agency
to Libyans.)
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[Marxism] Esteban Morales on Cuba's press censorship

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http://cubasocialistrenewal.blogspot.com.au/2016/08/esteban-morales-on-press-censorship.html
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[Marxism] Fwd: Closing in on the Higgs | Boston Review

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http://bostonreview.net/books-ideas/matthew-buckley-search-new-physics-cern-part-6
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[Marxism] Fwd: Black Lives and the Police by Darryl Pinckney | The New York Review of Books

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Black people in America have been under surveillance ever since the 
seventeenth century, when enslaved Africans were forced to labor in the 
tobacco and rice fields of the South. Colonial law quickly made a 
distinction between indentured servants and slaves, and in so doing 
invented whiteness in America. It may have been possible for a free 
African or mixed-race person to own slaves, but it was not possible for 
a European to be taken into slavery. The distinction helped to keep 
blacks and poor whites from seeking common cause.


full: http://www.nybooks.com/articles/2016/08/18/black-lives-and-the-police/
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