Re: [Marxism] Marxism Digest, Vol 154, Issue 29

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For an opposing point of view, see 

http://blackagendareport.com/Dems_attack_stein_and_baraka

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>On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 11:14 AM, Andrew Stewart <
>hasc.warrior.s...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> their 8 years of imperial neoliberal austerity has created a gap that only
>> the Greens can now step into and take power within.
>
>
>Andrew,
>
>Do you really see the Greens winning the election in Nov.? (taking power)
>If so please explain further, because again, not just me, I don't think you
>can convince the masses of black people that you aren't delusional when you
>make statements like that and they will probably not join the Green party
>if its representatives sound so utterly out of touch with the political
>realities of 2016.
>
>Many will think you are lining up to put a racist in the White House with
>your bold talk, and if Trump should win, they will blame you for what
>follows.
>
>Dan Rather on Rachel Maddow "Afro American voters have been through a lot,
>they are almost impossible to fool."
>He has a lot of respect for the black voter and he is right to. Black
>voters have 85%-90% voted their interest in just about every election since
>they have been able to vote. They will also in this election and they
>believe that means voting against Trump.
>
>Frankly, I doubt Stein can quadruple her poll numbers soon enough to make
>the debate's 15%, but if you think she can beat Trump & Clinton, then you
>won't think that you aren't voting against Trump by voting for Trump.
>
>75% of black women strongly fear Trump winning and they will be voting
>against Trump. They don't share your "hope", yes that is a kinder word,
>that Jill Stein can beat Trump, so they will be voting for Clinton.
>
>You may think they are wrong, Dan Rather is wrong and you know better, but
>I think they are right.
>
>Can we all agree on one thing? Don Trump's campaign has made the relation
>of white supremacy to state power in the United States the main question of
>election year 2016.
>
>Do others disagree with that? Because it is crystal clear to me and I need
>to know where I stand with you.
>
>Clay
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Re: [Marxism] Marxism Digest, Vol 154, Issue 29

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On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 11:14 AM, Andrew Stewart <
hasc.warrior.s...@gmail.com> wrote:

> their 8 years of imperial neoliberal austerity has created a gap that only
> the Greens can now step into and take power within.


Andrew,

Do you really see the Greens winning the election in Nov.? (taking power)
If so please explain further, because again, not just me, I don't think you
can convince the masses of black people that you aren't delusional when you
make statements like that and they will probably not join the Green party
if its representatives sound so utterly out of touch with the political
realities of 2016.

Many will think you are lining up to put a racist in the White House with
your bold talk, and if Trump should win, they will blame you for what
follows.

Dan Rather on Rachel Maddow "Afro American voters have been through a lot,
they are almost impossible to fool."
He has a lot of respect for the black voter and he is right to. Black
voters have 85%-90% voted their interest in just about every election since
they have been able to vote. They will also in this election and they
believe that means voting against Trump.

Frankly, I doubt Stein can quadruple her poll numbers soon enough to make
the debate's 15%, but if you think she can beat Trump & Clinton, then you
won't think that you aren't voting against Trump by voting for Trump.

75% of black women strongly fear Trump winning and they will be voting
against Trump. They don't share your "hope", yes that is a kinder word,
that Jill Stein can beat Trump, so they will be voting for Clinton.

You may think they are wrong, Dan Rather is wrong and you know better, but
I think they are right.

Can we all agree on one thing? Don Trump's campaign has made the relation
of white supremacy to state power in the United States the main question of
election year 2016.

Do others disagree with that? Because it is crystal clear to me and I need
to know where I stand with you.

Clay

Clay


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[Marxism] Fwd: www.oupress.com: Lone Star Unionism, Dissent, and Resistance

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Most histories of Civil War Texas—some starring the fabled Hood’s 
Brigade, Terry’s Texas Rangers, or one or another military figure—depict 
the Lone Star State as having joined the Confederacy as a matter of 
course and as having later emerged from the war relatively unscathed. 
Yet as the contributors to this volume amply demonstrate, the often 
neglected stories of Texas Unionists and dissenters paint a far more 
complicated picture. Ranging in time from the late 1850s to the end of 
Reconstruction, Lone Star Unionism, Dissent, and Resistance restores a 
missing layer of complexity to the history of Civil War Texas.



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Re: [Marxism] Smear campaign against Jill Stein by Democratic Party hack

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https://medium.com/@discomfiting/the-artful-anti-vax-smear-against-jill-stein-a82451945b48?source=linkShare-2211cee90f14-1471657305

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> From Jill Stein for President Social Media Team:
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> Please share widely. There is a smear campaign going on against Jill Stein
> ...



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Re: [Marxism] Smear campaign against Jill Stein by Democratic Party hack

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August 19, 1856

If the strategy is to build a Left pole in US politics then I think the
best move would be to promote and build the Republican Party in "safe states" 
while
urging a reluctant Buchanan vote in swing states.

This would leave the Republican Party best suited to deal with what comes next
while avoiding a Filmore presidency.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1856

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>The only problem is when you make your decisions based on what will 
>advance the goals of the DP, you lose credibility. In order to build a 
>left party, you have to show that you mean business. If Jill Stein had 
>not turned out to be such a feisty presidential candidate in 2012 and 
>again this year, there is good chance that the GP might have died.
>
>On 8/19/16 7:35 PM, A.R. G via Marxism wrote:
>> If the strategy is to build a Left pole in US politics then I think the
>> best move would be to promote and build the GP in "safe states" while
>> urging a reluctant Hillary vote in swing states.
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Re: [Marxism] Smear campaign against Jill Stein by Democratic Party hack

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The only problem is when you make your decisions based on what will 
advance the goals of the DP, you lose credibility. In order to build a 
left party, you have to show that you mean business. If Jill Stein had 
not turned out to be such a feisty presidential candidate in 2012 and 
again this year, there is good chance that the GP might have died.


On 8/19/16 7:35 PM, A.R. G via Marxism wrote:

If the strategy is to build a Left pole in US politics then I think the
best move would be to promote and build the GP in "safe states" while
urging a reluctant Hillary vote in swing states.

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Re: [Marxism] Smear campaign against Jill Stein by Democratic Party hack

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If the strategy is to build a Left pole in US politics then I think the
best move would be to promote and build the GP in "safe states" while
urging a reluctant Hillary vote in swing states.

This would leave the Green Party best suited to deal with what comes next
while avoiding a Trump presidency. Clay is correct that Trump is not just
another candidate, he has changed the game by opening a new level pf
extremism and racism in American politics that was, until very recently,
unacceptable in either party.

But while we shouldn't let him win, we should also recognize that his
appeal lies only in certain demographics and we can, in fact, rest assured
that he will not take dark blue states. That and the fact that Hillary will
likely enable worse Trumps going further.


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Re: [Marxism] Smear campaign against Jill Stein by Democratic Party hack

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On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 3:32 PM, Mark Lause via Marxism <
marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote:

> The current candidate fostered the rise of the
> prison-industrial complex with obvious results.
>

I'm willing to bet the black women in the Gallup poll know about the
prison-industrial complex in a very personal way. Do you think telling them
what they already know will convince them to switch their votes from
Clinton to Stein even if it put the much more racist evil in the WH?



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Re: [Marxism] SOIL ALLIANCE resource hub

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Assuming the figures are correct, or at least close enough to actual
consumption, these interactive graphs are fascinating.
http://www.nationalgeographic.com/what-the-world-eats/
Source: the FAO.

If you have an interactive fiddle and go back in time along the cross
bar, you'll note that beef consumption has been pretty stable in
countries like the US but it is chicken that has really grown in
patronage. In Australia the 'other meat' I guess refers to lamb which
we used to eat a lot of --and still do by international standards
outside the Middle East.

Understandably.

Elsewhere the nutritional story varies.

So a reality check is warranted.

Do we all eat too much meat? We certainly eat too much seafood as that
is a finite resource with very few fish stocks currently sustainable.

The real growth has been in sugar and fat consumption -- in part
allied to the rise in processed food.

As an aside, among regenerative agriculturalists the big boogey in
terms of environmental impact isn't the herbivore but the plough.
Woody Guthrie and the Grapes of Wrath remind is that the Dust
Bowl/Dirty Thirties  was an environmental crisis that may soon be
replayed with more telling consequence as the recent Californian
Drought suggests.

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[Marxism] Fwd: N+1, Syria and the Democratic Party | Louis Proyect: The Unrepentant Marxist

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Although not so nearly as well-known as Jacobin, N+1 has been mentioned 
in tandem with it as the voices of millennial hipster Marxism. For 
example, Columbia PhD student Timothy Shenk who is certainly familiar 
with the terrain wrote an article in the Nation Magazine titled “Thomas 
Piketty and Millennial Marxists on the Scourge of Inequality” that states:


"Cloaked in the moral authority of Occupy and connected by networks 
stitched together during those hectic days in 2011, a contingent of 
young journalists speaking through venues both new and old, all of them 
based in New York City—Jacobin, n+1, Dissent and occasionally this 
magazine, among others—have begun to make careers as Marxist intellectuals."


Well, who wouldn’t want a career as a Marxist intellectual unless you 
were someone like the young Max Horkheimer who wrote: “a revolutionary 
career does not lead to banquets and honorary titles, interesting 
research and professorial wages. It leads to misery, disgrace, 
ingratitude, prison and a voyage into the unknown, illuminated by only 
an almost superhuman belief”? The old Horkheimer, of course, discovered 
that banquets and honorary titles were not so bad after all.


While the Nation and Dissent could not be possibly be mistaken as 
millennial, they certainly have provided a roost for that contingent of 
young journalists trying to make careers as Marxist intellectuals. 
Furthermore, as should be obvious by the time you finish reading this 
article, young and old Marxist intellectual careerists making the rounds 
in the four magazines are in total agreement over Syria and the 
Democratic Party.


As readers of my blog will certainly know, Jacobin has been a primary 
venue of Assadist propaganda. In numerous articles, there are warnings 
about “regime change” in Syria that would have you believe that Barack 
Obama was getting ready to intervene in Bush-like fashion to put the 
rebels in power. Does it matter that it only took three months after 
Bush and his gang began talking about the need to invade Iraq in January 
2003 for the invasion to take place while a war in Syria now goes on for 
more than five years and no such action has yet taken place under Obama? 
Probably not.


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Re: [Marxism] Smear campaign against Jill Stein by Democratic Party hack

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African Americans shifted by the 1940s to support the Democratic Party,
though it spawned the KKK and remained pretty closely attached to it well
into the 1960s.  The current candidate fostered the rise of the
prison-industrial complex with obvious results.
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Re: [Marxism] [UCE] Fwd: Negroponte’s Crimes | Jacobin

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   As Powell, the most respected member of the GWB administration,
   delivered his infamous 2003 speech at the UN accusing Iraq of
   possessing WMD, Negroponte is to be seen in the photograph most
   associated with that speech sitting just to Powell's left and
   behind, reading the speech to himself as it's delivered - a fateful,
   false accusation which no doubt, given his effectiveness on the Bush
   team as a Project for a New American Century neoconservative
   advocate, had Negroponte prints all over it. If this fanatic
   super-patriot is to be on Hillary's team, we know we can look for a
   further continuation of an agenda that presages the impossible,
   ghoulish intention to eliminate all global opposition - which can
   lead only to still more massive destruction and chaos. 


http://www.democracynow.org/2013/2/6/decade_after_iraq_wmd_speech_at

   And people worry about what the Donald can do. I look for Wikileaks
   at some point to feed information as to Trump actually being a
   set-up. It's difficult to believe that this outrageous person is
   anything else than a sinister-comic contrivance. There must be
   communications or discussion in the board-rooms and war-rooms to be
   leaked by someone, as to how this feeds in to a convenient lesser
   evil strategy that serves to confuse and pacify the rest of us, and
   can only benefit transnationals and finance and their satraps, with
   their designs for sustaining and extending world domination.

   Does this still sound like off-the-wall conspiracy theory as to what
   takes place in the interior of the system, after what we've been
   seeing and what has been disclosed so far in the eye-popping,
   advancing science-fiction worlds of power?

   Our concerns as a human species, globally, lie less with the
   prospect of 'fascism' under a divisive, ineffectual Trump and the
   fanatical right rump flank driven by one particular, lesser, sector
   of wealth and power, than with the deceptive, increasingly powerful
   war and plunder machine that is the Democratic Party. Under Obama,
   there has not been one day in which the US has not been in military
   conflict - resulting in an ever-worsening situation with millions
   displaced, impoverished and killed, failed states and further
   division of spoils. Under his administration we've seen the carrying
   out the destruction of the Bill of Rights and unobstructed domestic
   surveillance and militarization of our cities begun under Bush - as
   if preparing on a war-footing, with Congress fearing to oppose it,
   under an increasingly heedless "Homeland Security" regime for
   generalized domestic revolt occurring in the midst of loss of
   control in the rest of the planet.

   And the successive regimes piling on unimaginable trillions of debt
   which at some inevitable time must be called in as a non-refundable
   call on the accrual of real wealth from surplus labor.

   And to make things indescribably worse, Obama's administration, no
   less than the past and prospective incoming administrations, fails
   to take effective leadership to broadcast and deal with the
   far-reaching signs that we're on a course to imminent, irreversible
   environmental destruction.

   With her team selections and her rhetoric indicating that nothing
   has been learned from the past except more of the same, we're in
   doodoo big. The campaign is designed for nothing but obfuscation.
   Without impedance the stakes rise higher and the game plan at some
   undetermined point spins out of control - bringing the prospect of
   nuclear attack on the occurrence of some inadvertent event to a
   virtual certainty - in the designated 'war on terror' without
   identifiable parameters or terminus.

   The point for me is that we appear to have only one way within the
   system to register the growing majority's opposition to the
   two-party system and revulsion as to the choices, if the polls are a
   reflection, and that's a protest vote, regardless of how effective
   they are in destroying Jill Stein as a person and as a candidate. We
   have this opportunity at a crucial juncture, if nothing else as a
   demonstration to ourselves of the strength of our numbers and our
   part in the world's agony at what is being inflicted on us, in a
   failing capital accumulation system flailing violently, without a
   way out of here. I don't see spending effort on local elections as
   much of an alternative, given the relatively greater control
   historically of capital and its two-party system over local politics.

   As to protest action outside the system, in the streets and in
   

Re: [Marxism] Smear campaign against Jill Stein by Democratic Party hack

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Here's the thing Manuel,

I'm not the only black person that fears the White House falling to an
administration openly aligned with the KKK:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/07/19/black-woman-are-most-worried-about-the-outcome-of-the-2016-election-poll-finds/

> Nearly 3 in 4 African American women are “strongly” afraid of what will
> happen if their candidate loses the presidential election, a recent Gallup
> poll has found.
> 
>  And
> polling shows that their candidate is not Donald Trump.
>
> So never mind that I may be a chump, a political chump and dumb enough to
walk around and a traitor to my race besides, you and Louis need to address
these black women and their fears, you need to be able to win them to your
position. You need to convince them to join the Green Party and vote for
Jill Stein instead Hillary Clinton, unless you are reconciled that the
Green Party will remain a white party, and I don't think the approach you
are using with me will work with them.

I recognize that you face a big hurdle. Black women vote at a high rate, so
if you are successful, it will probably mean their worst fears will be
realized. It is very important that you convince them that they won't be
voting against their own best interest. This is important, not only to win
their votes for Stein, but to convince them that the Green Party is not a
force working to make their worst fears come true.

I see 2 approaches to this problem and I see both are under development
here.

1) Trump isn't all that bad. This also has 2 approaches:
a) Trump is just another GOP not KKK, nothing new to fear here
b) KKK has always been in WH, nothing new to fear here

Frankly, I don't see that working, The gut response of most black people to
what is happening is that it is new and very dangerous, and I can already
see the effects of the rise of Trump's white supremacy in the recent
elections for the Venice Neighborhood Council. There are a lot of little
effects afoot already. I've been closely following presidential elections
since 1964 and I know you'll not going to convince me that 2016 is just
another election year with regards to white supremacy, so good luck with
that approach with the masses.

2) Its in the bag for Clinton anyway so feel free to vote your conscience.
Louis, floated this line earlier. I consider it very dangerous because
while it admits the problem with Trump winning, it disarms people and makes
it more likely he will win. Regardless of what the polls say [capitalist
polls], I think it would be very foolish to be declaring "Mission
Accomplished" with regards to defeating Trump's bid to capture state power
in mid-August, Anything can happen - a "terrorist" attack or other
happenings could seriously change the political landscape, elections can be
stolen [ I avoid using "rigged" because its currently so associated with
Trump agitation. ] , and especially for us on the Left, I think its
important to point to the possibility of an extra-legal bid for power. Not
to belabor that point but we know Trump is building some kind of militia
and it could have billions [not just Trump money] behind it. The closer the
vote, the easier each of these alternative scenarios becomes.

What I think this situation calls for is a Left leadership and a Left party
that exposes the capitalist nature of both parties but recognizes that in
2016 there is a real danger that the neo-liberal establishment that has run
the executive in the United States since before WW2 is in danger of being
superseded by a much more openly fascist and white supremacist regime.

It endorse the view of those black women that this is the main danger to be
defeated in 2016 and it supports their decision to vote for Clinton, not
because we believe her lies but because we must vote strategically in this
election to defeat this white supremacist assault.

That is an approach I think will work. Asking them to ditch voting against
Trump to vote for someone who really doesn't have her act together is not
going to win many supporters.


Clay Claiborne, Director
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[Marxism] SOIL ALLIANCE resource hub

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David Walters writes:

> But I can tell you now: anything that stymies the worlds desire to
> increase their standard of living ... will not find a hearing
> whatsoever and will be opposed.

Unfortunately I agree.  As I see it, the chances are slim that a
movement based on voluntary self-restraint comes off the ground now.  It
is more likely that our social systems remain unable to rein in the
profit motive, and those individuals who have options and could make a
difference now through a mass movement will not act decisively and
quickly enough to prevent dangerous climate change.  It is my guess that
most of them will not wake up until it is too late, i.e., until even the
fairest social system can no longer protect them from starvation and
accelerating disasters.  Let's hope that, when the decline has
progressed to that point, people will maintain their humanity and face
the hard times with dignity instead of exacerbating them by going to war,
OR CONTINUING TO EAT MEAT IN THE FORM OF CANNIBALISM.  But as long as I
have enough time, food, and health now, I will use my retirement years
to live simply and help others who also want to live simply, to support
any political movement that tries to solve a facet of the wicked problem
before us, and to patiently try to convince anyone who comes into
earshot that big changes are necessary now, before everything has
visibly crashed.  And I am not alone.  Many others see the danger too
and try to react in similar ways.  See for instance Bill McKibben's call
for a WWII-like mobilization

https://newrepublic.com/article/135684/declare-war-climate-change-mobilize-wwii

Hans G Ehrbar

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Re: [Marxism] Smear campaign against Jill Stein by Democratic Party hack

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On 8/19/16 12:17 PM, Clay Claiborne wrote:

Louis,

Just to be clear. If Trump would win because Clinton was one vote short,
would you still refuse to vote for her?




I don't deal in hypotheticals.

More to the point, I am for a left party in the USA. I have been ever 
since I left the Trotskyist movement in 1979. I worked closely with 
Peter Camejo in 1981 to start something called the North Star Network 
that would serve as a catalyst for such a party.


Peter ended up as a key figure in the Green Party and my interest in the 
Greens has a lot to do with being Peter's disciple for all practical 
purposes. So you are talking about a political history going back over 
35 years.


I continue along this path, as my involvement with the North Star 
website would indicate. That supersedes just about everything, including 
Stein and Baraka's unwise statements on Syria, his much worse than hers.


The left party itself is not the vanguard party that will be necessary 
to overthrow American capitalism. It is simply a step in that direction. 
Right now American electoral politics is a wholly-owned subsidiary of 
the Democratic-Republican Party--two factions of the same bourgeois 
party. You can get an idea of how this operates from simply observing 
that Koch brothers operatives served on the governing body of the 
Democratic Leadership Council--the corporatist entity that was designed 
to suppress all liberal tendencies in the DP. Hillary Clinton, Bill 
Clinton, Al Gore, Joseph Lieberman, Sam Nunn and Dick Gephardt were key 
figures in the DLC. So what kind of electoral system do we have when the 
Koch brothers have a role in the DLC? The whole thing is a sham.


Finally, isn't it time to recognize that the Trump campaign is toast? 
The numbers are devastating:


NY Times, August 19 2016
Donald Trump’s Crucial Pillar of Support, White Men, Shows Weakness
By JEREMY W. PETERS

Donald J. Trump’s support among white men, the linchpin of his 
presidential campaign, is showing surprising signs of weakness that 
could foreclose his only remaining path to victory in November.


If not reversed, the trend could materialize into one of the most 
unanticipated developments of the 2016 presidential campaign: That 
Hillary Clinton, the first woman at the head of a major party ticket and 
a divisive figure unpopular with many men, ends up narrowing the gender 
gap that has been a constant of American presidential elections for decades.


Surveys of voters nationwide and in battleground states conducted over 
the last two weeks showed that Mr. Trump was even with or below where 
Mitt Romney, the Republican Party nominee four years ago, was with white 
men when he won that demographic by an overwhelming 27 percentage points.


For Mr. Trump, who has staked much of his legitimacy as a candidate on 
his strength in the polls, the numbers are a dose of cold, dangerous 
math. If he does not perform any better than Mr. Romney did with white 
men, he will almost certainly be unable to rally the millions of 
disaffected white voters he says will propel him to the White House.


All along, one of the central questions of the election has been whether 
there are enough white men who will turn out to vote to lift Mr. Trump 
to victory. And there may be enough, demographers and pollsters said. 
But for now it appears that after a ceaseless stream of provocations, 
insults and reckless remarks, Mr. Trump has damaged himself 
significantly with the one demographic that stands as a bulwark to a 
Clinton presidency.


“If you set out to design a strategy to produce the lowest popular vote 
possible in the new American electorate of 2016, you would be 
hard-pressed to do a better job than Donald Trump has,” said Whit Ayres, 
a pollster who has advised Republican presidential and Senate candidates 
for more than 25 years. “This is an electoral disaster waiting to happen.”


There are still nearly three months before Election Day, ample time to 
shift the dynamics of the race. But the question that Republicans inside 
and outside the Trump campaign are asking is whether or not the damage 
Mr. Trump has caused himself over the last few weeks is irreparable.


Interviews with voters found that Mr. Trump’s increasingly outlandish 
behavior was rubbing many in his key voting bloc the wrong way. “I liked 
Trump until he opened his mouth,” said Phil Kinney, a retired middle 
school administrator and a Republican from Bethlehem, Pa. The recent 
string of attacks Mr. Trump has unleashed, particularly his criticism of 
the family of a Muslim soldier killed in Iraq, left Mr. Kinney 
disappointed. Faced with the choice of voting for Mr. 

Re: [Marxism] Smear campaign against Jill Stein by Democratic Party hack

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Louis,

Just to be clear. If Trump would win because Clinton was one vote short,
would you still refuse to vote for her?


Clay

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 I will vote for Hillary Clinton on the same day I will hail the Chinese
> bureaucrats.
>
> That is it.
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[Marxism] Gindin on "Beyond Social Movement Unionism"

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In the current Jacobin issue on labor, Sam Gindin has an article which
correctly details the promise and pitfalls of "social movement unionism."

He astutely points to the organizational superiority in size and
(potentially)in  more democratic functioning of unions compared to
amorphous, smaller and often less democratic (for all the talk of
horizontalism) social movements.

He also correctly stresses the need for unions to expand their scope to
take up the class needs of members and their families and neighbors outside
of work.

He concludes with a section on the need for a socialist party to provide
vanguard elements to push all that.

Still, he's vague and confusing about exactly what kind of party it should
be.

Which in a way is appropriate: For lack of a clear version of what kind of
party was needed, he and his partner in crime Leo Panitch fell back on the
"realist" school of party-building represented so sickeningly by Syriza,
i.e., threaten the ruling class that you'll stand up to them, but be sure
to leave yourself room to climb down when the "realities" of class forces
demand. And save your venom for any genuine leftist who would dare scream
"betrayal!"

For years I've been telling friends that anything Jeffrey Sachs says about
reducing poverty is not worth listening to given his role as architect of
genocidal austerity in the former workers' states. The parallel here is
that I can never again take seriously any radical propositions put forward
by Gindin after the yeoman's service he performed for the sell-outs in
Athens.

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[Marxism] Atl Right White Supremacists take over leadership of Trump campaign

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Now Paul Manafort is out and the new leadership of the Trump campaign comes
from the Atl Right white supremacist gang, backed not only by Trump's money
but now also the much richer Robert Mercer. This now represents an attempt
by open fascists and white supremacists to take power in the US.

The main task of all progressive people in the United States has to be
denying the White House to this criminal gang.

What will the Green's do? Will they win votes from Trump? Will they try? If
they win progressive votes for Jill Stein, which is clearly their focus,
they effectively become a part of their racist " Defeat Crooked Hillary"
campaign.

All the Greens really have to do to support white supremacists taking the
White House in 2016 is to essentially repeat their 2012 campaign and act as
if Donald Trump is really no different than Mitt Romney.

Will the white Left's treachery with regards the people of Libya and Syria,
be repeated with regards to colored people's in the United States?

I fear it is already happening!

Clay
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/08/17/alt-right-
rejoices-at-trump-s-steve-bannon-hire.html

> Donald Trump’s campaign
> 
> is under new management—and his white nationalist fanboys
> 
> love it.
>
> The campaign’s new chief executive, Stephen Bannon, joins from Breitbart
> News
> —where
> he helped mainstream the ideas of white nationalists and resuscitate the
> reputations of anti-immigrant fear-mongers.
>
> White nationalists today invest a lot of energy worrying about growing
> Hispanic and Muslim populations in the U.S. Turns out, Breitbart News
> spends a lot of time worrying about those things, too. And in Bannon, they
> see a media-friendly, ethno-nationalist fellow traveler.
>
> “Latterly, Breitbart emerged as a nationalist site and done great stuff on
> immigration in particular,” VDARE.com editor Peter Brimelow told The
> Daily Beast.
>




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[Marxism] The Luxury Mall as Consumer Prison

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NY Times, August 19 2016
The Luxury Mall as Consumer Prison
By KAREN ROSENBERG

At art school in London a decade or so ago, the Qatari-American artist, 
writer and filmmaker Sophia Al-Maria came up with a pithy term, Gulf 
Futurism, to describe the warp-speed transformations of Dubai and other 
oil-rich cities: the rise of hotels, malls and museums and the 
incorporation of the area’s Bedouin tribes into an international 
consumer class. She has been elaborating on this catchphrase ever since, 
in videos and writings that combine sci-fi fantasies with dystopian 
musings on the human and environmental costs of hyperdevelopment.


Her 2013 article in Dazed magazine, for instance, written with the 
musician Fatima Al Qadiri, offered a neat summary of Gulf Futurism — as 
a phenomenon “marked by a deranged optimism about the sustainability of 
both oil reserves and late capitalism”— as well as examples ranging from 
the “alien ship” Sheraton Hotel in Doha, Qatar, designed by William 
Pereira to illuminated motorcycles straight out of “Tron.”


An even more concise manifesto of an installation is now at the Whitney 
Museum of American Art, in “Black Friday,” Ms. Al-Maria’s first solo 
exhibition in the United States. Comprising a short, suspenseful video 
(also titled “Black Friday”) set atop a sculptural scattering of small, 
flickering screens on a pile of sand, this exhibition turns the famously 
opulent malls of Doha, Qatar’s capital, into a kind of horror set. It’s 
instantly compelling, but offers just a taste of Ms. Al-Maria’s talents 
and range.


As chronicled in her 2012 memoir, “The Girl Who Fell to Earth,” Ms. 
Al-Maria was born in Washington State to an American mother and a Qatari 
father. While still a teenager, she left the Pacific Northwest for her 
grandmother’s home in Doha; later, she spent her undergraduate years in 
Cairo before attending Goldsmiths, University of London.


Goldsmiths is known for its freely interdisciplinary approach to 
art-making, and Ms. Al-Maria continues to work in multiple mediums: In 
addition to her short- and long-form writing and video art, she is 
working on a feature-length film, “Beretta,” which she describes as “a 
thriller about a lingerie salesgirl in Cairo who goes on an all-male 
killing rampage.”


She has made other works about female identity in the Muslim world: The 
memorable video installation “Sisters,” seen last year at the New Museum 
Triennial, incorporated YouTube and WhatsApp footage of young Arab women 
who had filmed themselves laughing and dancing in their bedrooms, 
turning spaces of confinement into public nightclubs. In title and 
spirit, “Sisters” seemed to shed light on a subtle feminist rebellion 
and a universal adolescent desire for community.


The subject of the Whitney show, the shopping mall, is the communal 
teenage space of decades past. The mall may be dying in America, but Ms. 
Al-Maria has seen it thrive in cities like Doha, where “Black Friday” is 
set. She describes it as a “weirdly neutral shared zone between cultures 
that are otherwise engaged in a sort of war of information and image,” 
as she wrote in an email exchange with Christopher Y. Lew, the Whitney 
associate curator who organized the exhibition.


“Black Friday” takes us inside an ostentatious and largely empty mall — 
actually two malls; it was filmed partly at the retail-entertainment 
complex the Villaggio and partly at another shopping center, Al Hazm, 
that is still under construction. We see, among other architectural 
features, the Villaggio’s indoor canal and ersatz Italian village 
streets, as well as the glass dome and double arcade of Al Hazm, modeled 
on the Galleria Vittorio Emanuele II in Milan.


As the camera explores these cavernous spaces, ominous, staticky music 
and a portentous narration — most of it by the actor Sam Neill — makes 
you feel as if you’re watching a trailer for the latest alien-invasion 
blockbuster. (A sample: “This is where the glamorous heart of evil is 
born. And reborn. Not in the dark satanic mills of the 19th century, but 
in the bright fluorescent malls of the 21st.”)


Much as she did in “Sisters,” Ms. Al-Maria distorts the footage 
vertically, elongating the already imposing architecture to 
cathedral-like heights and giving the video’s few figures an El 
Greco-esque ethereality. This strategy is especially effective in the 
opening sequence, which stretches, flattens and defamiliarizes an 
otherwise banal set of escalators.


Elsewhere, though, Ms. Al-Maria has a heavy hand with the special 
effects, so that the mall spins, melts or suddenly blazes fuchsia and 
orange. Maybe this is deliberate 

[Marxism] [SUSPICIOUS MESSAGE] ‘Blood in the Water,’ a Gripping Account of the Attica Prison Uprising

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NY Times, August 19 2016
‘Blood in the Water,’ a Gripping Account of the Attica Prison Uprising
Books of The Times
By MARK OPPENHEIMER

Blood in the Water
The Attica Prison Uprising of 1971 and Its Legacy
By Heather Ann Thompson
Illustrated. 724 pages. Pantheon. $35.

Not all works of history have something to say so directly to the 
present, but Heather Ann Thompson’s “Blood in the Water: The Attica 
Prison Uprising of 1971 and Its Legacy,” which deals with racial 
conflict, mass incarceration, police brutality and dissembling 
politicians, reads like it was special-ordered for the sweltering summer 
of 2016.


But there’s nothing partisan or argumentative about “Blood in the 
Water.” The power of this superb work of history comes from its 
methodical mastery of interviews, transcripts, police reports and other 
documents, covering 35 years, many released only reluctantly by 
government agencies, and many of those “rendered nearly unreadable from 
all of the redactions,” Ms. Thompson writes. She has pieced together the 
whole, gripping story, from the conditions that gave rise to the 
rebellion, which cost the lives of 43 men, to the decades of government 
obstructionism that prevented the full story from being told.


Ms. Thompson’s book has already been in the news because she names state 
troopers and prison guards who might have been culpable in these deaths. 
But the real story here is not any single revelation, but rather the 
total picture, one in which several successive New York governors are 
called to account as much as anyone on the ground that week in September 
1971 in Attica, N.Y.


The inmates at Attica Correctional Facility had not planned to riot. 
True, some inmates considered themselves Black Panthers or Maoist 
revolutionaries. Everyone knew about George Jackson, the Panther, prison 
radical and author of “Soledad Brother,” who had been shot to death by 
prison guards in San Quentin, Calif., earlier that year. In July, there 
had been a strike in the Attica metal shop. In a prison sociology class, 
inmates in a racially mixed group were reading Adam Smith and Karl Marx.


Conditions were ghastly. Inmates were underfed. Each got one bar of soap 
and one roll of toilet paper a month and was permitted one shower a 
week. Broken bones went untreated and prisoners lost teeth for want of 
basic dental care.


But what finally turned Attica the town or prison into Attica the 
uprising was a misunderstanding, not discontent. On Sept. 8, 1971, a 
prisoner had been accused of hitting a guard. The next morning, after 
more prisoner infractions and a miscommunication among guards, a group 
of prisoners was locked in a tunnel connecting one part of the prison to 
another. Believing themselves sitting ducks, with guards coming to beat 
them up in reprisal, the prisoners attacked the guards in the tunnel 
and, in some cases, each other.


When prisoners in other parts of the facility figured out what was 
happening, they began to arm themselves — with two-by-fours, chair legs, 
whatever. When the prisoners in the tunnel finally burst out, they found 
the other inmates were taking over the prison.


From Sept. 9, when the uprising began, to its brutal end on Sept. 13, 
about half the inmates gathered in D Yard. They created a society, good 
and bad. They made some rules by consensus, elected leaders and listened 
to speeches. They cooked and ate. Early in the riot one guard, William 
Quinn, died after a blow to the head; he fell and was trampled. After 
that, guards taken hostage were treated well. At least two inmates were 
raped by fellow inmates. Some prisoners beat up their least favorite 
guards. Others raided the dispensary for drugs to shoot up.


For some prisoners, this reversion to a state of imagined freedom was 
nightmarish; for others, blissful. One prisoner, Ms. Thompson writes, 
“watched in amazement as men embraced each other, and he saw one man 
break down into tears because it had been so long since he had been 
‘allowed to get close to someone.’” Another hadn’t seen the stars in 22 
years.


The eyes of the nation were on Attica. The inmates invited observers 
into the prison, including the radical defense lawyer William M. 
Kunstler and Tom Wicker, a columnist for The New York Times. (Louis 
Farrakhan declined an invitation.) The observers became de facto 
intermediaries, relaying demands that included religious freedom, an end 
to censorship of their letters, a healthy diet (“stop feeding us so much 
pork”) and doctors who would actually treat them.


Gov. Nelson A. Rockefeller rejected the prisoners’ demand that he visit. 
In briefings at his Pocantico Hills 

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Thank you Dave for proving links to the Socialist Alliance's ag policy...I
remember working with two of your farmer comrades on this, a bit, in
discussions before the program was fully developed. I think it's an
advantage that the SA there has some farm people in it to elaborate on the
technical details of the program. I believe it's the only socialist group
in the developed worlds with a serious...or any...agricultural policy. I
don't agree with it all and I think generally, the *reasons* for many to
support organic farming is bogus. But here it focuses on carbon
sequestration and ending soil degradation which makes all the sense in the
world. Cereal grain production however is something that is simply done
more productively in large commercial farming methods. But that's another
debate (not to mention the sort of hyper-opposition to GMOs instead of a
more measured parsing of the issues surrounding them. I agree with some of
the *intent* of the anti-GMO statement in the program).

Hans' position, is the opposite of mine. I don't agree we even need a
'leaner' set of eating habits. How would you implement this short of a
Pol-Pot rationing of food? Han's positions require this sort of catholic
universalism not ready to come by. In every society that increases it's
standard of living, animal protein goes up. Han's is part of the
"de-development" wing of the environmental movement that I think all
Marxists should reject. He writes:

"If we are talking of leaner lifestyles, different use-values must be
treated differently." then... "We want to restrict those things which we
can do without without living a too impoverished life, and which allow us
to reduce our footprint a lot. Meat consumption and air travel are rightly
in the cross hairs as the main things which we must learn to use only
sparingly."

So...well no...I'm not talking about that all and none of us should. What
we are talking about is *wiser* use of all resources. I'm not sure anyone
or any institution can decide what is "too impoverished life" is. I'm for
*abundance*, as Marx was, and we need to figure out how to get that or we
except the "nobility of the poor".  We need a lot more of everything to
bring the worlds impoverished up to at least a decent (by *their* standard)
of living. This means more energy, which solar and wind won't do for us. We
need to increase the productivity of land without poisoning it forever.
This means a balanced approach to both the use of chemical fertilizers with
organic farming methods and the sound (and sane non-capitalist) use of
GMOs. But I can tell you now: anything that stymies the worlds desire to
increase their standard of living, especially in impoverished developing
countries will not find a hearing whatsoever and will be opposed. Anything
that prevents the neo-colonial world will be smashed politically. Asking
people not eat what they want is going to be laughed out of the room.

David Walters
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[Marxism] [UCE] Fwd: Negroponte’s Crimes | Jacobin

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It’s hard not to see in the publicizing of the endorsement a 
less-than-subtle hint of what a Clinton administration foreign policy 
would look like, however — one that ruthlessly prioritizes US strategic 
and political interests at the expense of peace, human rights, and the 
lives of poor people in foreign countries.


Say what you will about Clinton’s shifting political beliefs over the 
course of this election and her entire career, but she’s been fairly 
consistent on foreign policy, pushing the kind of unapologetically 
interventionist approach that made her the darling of hawks long before 
Trump came along.


And like Negroponte, she has both her own dubious history in Honduras 
and has backed both NAFTA and the TPP (at least until she — maybe — 
changed her mind about the latter). On these issues, they’re kindred 
political spirits.


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[Marxism] Fwd: Hope in the Ruins of Homs: Architecture and the Syrian Civil War - Los Angeles Review of Books

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Why talk about architecture when so many people are losing their lives? 
Sabouni contends that Syria’s built environment helped create the 
conditions for a popular uprising-turned-civil war. She isn’t suggesting 
that architecture or urban planning were the main causes of the 
conflict, but she makes a convincing case that they reflected the Assad 
regime’s corruption and increasingly sectarian agenda. How else to 
explain the fact that so many Sunnis were relegated to slum-like 
neighborhoods? In this light, Syria’s ravaged cities themselves — how 
they were planned and governed before the war — offer a lesson and a 
warning. Her hope is that better, fairer urban development, policy, and 
architecture can aid eventual reconciliation. Architecture, as Sabouni 
puts it, “offers a mirror to a community, and in that mirror we can see 
what is wrong and also find hints as to how to put it right.”


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[Marxism] Aleppo: US F-16s target rebel-held bridge, kill refugees

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When reporting that "China boosts Syria support",  Louis asked "Who's 
next? The Martians?". Well, of course there is the Americans (although 
that isn't as new as many assume):


(From Omar Sabbour's FB page 
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1596853007210190/permalink/1862955763933245/):
BREAKING - Al-Jazeera Arabic via Syrian opposition sources: The US 
coalition airforce has committed a massacre of civilians in the city of 
Aleppo, targeting a bridge on which refugees were escaping from ongoing 
bombardment by the Syrian regime and Russian airforces. Dozens of 
refugees have been reported killed. Both the bridge and the tunnel 
underneath it were collapsed, crushing several civilian cars in the 
process.
The targeted bridge was in an area recently taken by rebels from the 
regime during their recent campaign to break the siege of Aleppo, 
between the village of Khan Touman and the neighbourhood of Ramousa in 
South Aleppo. The regime and Russian airplanes had been repeatedly 
trying to destroy the bridge but had failed due to its "well-cemented 
structure" - however the bridge was finally destroyed by "high explosive 
missiles" launched from airplanes belonging to the US-led coalition, 
according to the Al-Jazeera report.
The report continues that this is not the first time the US coalition 
has targeted opposition factions inside Aleppo, having done so already 
in such neighbourhoods as Al-Sha'ar and Al-Sakhour. Rebel targets did 
not only include Jabhat al-Nusra but also moderate factions inside the 
city, the report goes on.
The US is bombing refugees already fleeing Assad's bombing. Syrians 
expected the US would not help them against Assad, but the US has gone 
far further and actively joined in Assad's war against them.

Clear Syria's skies NOW

From Al Jazeera Channel (Arabic) 
https://www.facebook.com/aljazeerachannel/videos/10154650225289893/



The report says "this is not the first time the US coalition has 
targeted opposition factions inside Aleppo." Far from it.
But just recently, during the current truly apocalyptic Assadist/Russian 
imperialist slaughter, just in case they needed extra help, we have the 
above report, and a couple of others:


1. #Syria|Did IC participate to Aleppo blockade ?
Media Activist Majed Abdel Nur revealed on Orient News that 
International Coalition aircrafts have taken part to the battle of the 
siege of the city of Aleppo.
He indicated that they have spotted a heavy bombing, believed to be 
carried out by F-16 warplanes, targeting vehicles, and which resulted in 
direct casualties

https://yallasouriya.wordpress.com/2016/07/28/syriadid-ic-participate-to-aleppo-blockade/


2. US planes join Putins planes to stop rebels breaking the siege of 
Aleppo.
According to "Halab today" yesterday there were 4 sorties over Aleppo by 
the US-led coalition aircrafts to strike the rebels:
“Counting about 125 aircraft raided the City yesterday, including a 
Russian warplane, 72 Syrian and four Alliance”

https://twitter.com/HalabTodayTV/status/760656520572960768

Also, from Idlib, we had this report:

Idlib blasts near Bab al-Hawa, on the Turkish border , after a Jaysh 
al-Islam rebels ' ammunition warehouses was targeted, probably by a US 
airstrike

(the article says local activists blamed the US airforce):
http://tinyurl.com/gu8buln


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[Marxism] Donald Trump's major funder and policy shaper

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Donald Trump: "These hedge fund guys are getting away with murder".

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Donald Trump’s dramatic staff shake-up on Wednesday revealed the growing 
influence wielded on his campaign by a Republican megadonor duo.


The fingerprints of Robert Mercer, a New York hedge fund billionaire, 
and his middle daughter, Rebekah, can be seen all over the new Trump 
staffing appointments and other decisions being made by the GOP 
presidential nominee.


full: 
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/291772-billionaire-father-and-daughter-linked-to-trump-shakeup

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[Marxism] Fwd: Turkey and Iran Reach Agreement on Conditions for Syria Peace

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The new negotiations between Iran and Turkey are the result of a major 
policy shift by the government of Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan 
toward diplomatic cooperation with Russia and Iran on Syria and away 
from alignment with the United States and its Gulf allies Saudi Arabia 
and Qatar. Turkey has been coordinating military assistance to the armed 
opposition to the Assad government -- including jihadists and other 
hardline extremists -- with Saudi Arabia and Qatar since early in the 
war. However, Erdogan began searching in May for an alternative policy 
more in line with Turkey's primary strategic interest in Syria: 
containing the threat of Kurdish demands for a separate state.


full: 
http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/37291-turkey-and-iran-reach-agreement-on-conditions-for-syria-peace


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Syrian government fighter jets have bombed Kurdish-held areas of the 
northeastern city of Hasakah for the first time in the five-year-old 
civil war, according to fighters and a monitoring group.


The Kurdish People's Protection Units (YPG), a key US ally in the fight 
against the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) group, said on 
Thursday that it would "not be silent" over what it called it an act of 
aggression.


There was no immediate comment from the Syrian government.

YPG spokesman Redur Xelil said that the air raids had hit Kurdish 
districts of Hasakah and positions held by a Kurdish security force 
known as the Asayish.


"There are martyrs and wounded," he told the Reuters news agency.

full: 
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/08/syrian-warplanes-hit-kurdish-held-areas-time-160818173939424.html


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Re: [Marxism] SOIL ALLIANCE resource hub

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Just on the healthy soils question...

David Walters writes:"It shows truly the only way the soil can be
conserved and made healthy again (which, folks, REQUIRES cow herds to
return to the land and thus our necessary consumption of them)."

There is a lot of hype being generated about this phenomenon of carbon
sequestration by herbivores so it warrants a careful embrace. Soil
health and carbon sequestration are always going to be victimized by
drought and limited rainfall --as well as events like bushfire or wild
fire.

This is the nub of so many carbon trading debates: can you put a price
on it? Can it deliver year in your out?

Indeed, the Carbon Coalition (primarily made up of graziers)  here in
Australia tends to be dominated by some anti-green right wingers who
argue that we don't need the other stuff, as carbon farming can save
the planet.

A lot of bovine celebration literature -- like 'Cows Save The Planet'
(by Judith Schwartz) -- promotes a similar  fix-it.

There is a big discussion that needs to be had out among
agriculturalists in regard to land use and sustainability . But it is
proceeding. A reason why it is kicking in is that the soil friendly
option is cheaper with fewer inputs and less frequent  interventions..

Aiding this trend has been a revolution in soil science (driven by new
microscopic techniques)  which is changing the way we view dirt and
its inhabitants. Indeed, a good remaking of agriculture's day to day
should be 'microbe farming' -- which applies equally to
paddock,orchard and produce bed.

The complication is that the 'Green Revolution' horticulture doesn't
cut the sustainability mustard. And THAT, rather than the
biochemistry,  is the crux of GM tensions.

What that means for farming isn't quite clear, or self evident, as
some sort of mass scale transition is required.

New Agroecology techniques --supported by academic research --  are
having impacts
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agroecology
such that it isn't a simple business of presuming  a sudden sharp turn
to organic agriculture is our one option. Indeed, 'organic' labeling
can be a sort of obscurantism that  fosters a marketing niche rather
than building awareness the sort of rural changes that we need to put
in place.

And the 'don't eat meat' mantra is simply destructive to discourse,
especially between city and countryside, as it is to undermining the
platform of the climate change movement.

I think the Socialist Alliance here in Australia has a pretty good
Agricultural Policy that tries to tackle some of the main issues. It
is well worth a read.
https://socialist-alliance.org/policy/environment-natural-resources/agriculture
It is a pretty good summary of  some of the key changes required if we
are to recover soil health..

dave riley
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