Re: [Marxism] Inconvenient

2017-08-22 Thread Gary MacLennan via Marxism
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Thanks for this

comradely

Gary

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> INCONVENIENT
> Written by Humberto Costantini
> Translated by Sharlene Newman
>
> I am not going to say that I was in the best possible world
> but at least I had an archive
> with all of its moons perfectly sorted,
> the primrose folded four ways in the center drawer
> here and there absurdities rest
> off to the side of the bureau.
>
> I do not claim to have been in the best possible world
> but at least three or four friends delighted in my wine,
> and three or four lovers delighted in my bed,
> and my publisher truly believed in my novel,
> and at a quarter to six
> the timid ghosts quietly returned to chat with me.
>
> I will not say that I was in the best of all possible worlds
> but my future went on for at least a week out
> wherein one could foresee one hundred and twenty lines written,
> at least one insignificant inebriation,
> as well as five minutes of daily exercise.
>
> I was not, I will admit, in the best world possible
> but generally things were reasonably clear;
> fireflies did not hang from the roof as they do now,
> nor did trains keep a wakeful vigil until dawn,
> nor did September arrive declaring its presence
> the wind did not show up in order to laugh to death at my face.
>
> I do not wish to say that I was in the best of possible worlds
> but this giant, trembling moon,
> this unusual smitten moon,
> this terrible red stop light of a moon,
> this moon made of insomnia and small verses…
> how maddening Lord,
> how barbaric.
>
> INCONVENIENTE
> Escrito por Humberto Costantini
> Traducido por Sharlene Newman
>
> Yo no voy a decir que estaba en el mejor de los mundos
> pero al menos tenía un bibliorato
> con todas las lunas perfectamente clasificadas,
> la primavera plegada en cuatro en el cajón del medio
> y alguno que otro disparate
> a un costadito del bargueño.
>
> Yo no digo que estaba en el mejor de los mundos
> pero tres o cuatro amigos apreciaban mi vino,
> y tres o cuatro amantes apreciaban mi cama,
> y mi editor creía firmemente en la novela,
> y a las seis menos cuarto
> dócilmente volvían a platicar conmigo los fantasmas.
>
> Yo no diré que estaba en el mejor de los mundos
> pero tenía un futuro hasta de una semana
> donde estaban previstos ciento veinte renglones,
> alguna intrascendente borrachera,
> y hasta los cinco minutos diarios de gimnasia.
>
> Yo no estaba, lo admito, en el mejor de los mundos
> pero en general las cosas eran juiciosamente claras;
> no colgaban luciérnagas del techo como ahora,
> ni velaban los trenes hasta la madrugada,
> ni septiembre llegaba con nombre y apellido
> ni el viento venía para morirse de risa de mi cara.
>
> Yo no quiero decir que estaba en el major de los mundos
> pero esta enorme luna estremecida,
> esta insólita luna enamorada,
> esta terrible luna rojo stop de semáforo,
> esta luna de insomnios y versitos…
> qué trastorno Señor,
> qué cosa bárbara.
>
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humberto_Costantini
> Humberto "Cacho" Costantini (April 8, 1924 – June 7, 1987) was an
> Argentine writer and poet whose work is filled with the rich slang
> (porteño) of Buenos Aires. Except for his years of exile in Mexico, his
> life was lived in and around Buenos Aires.
>
> Costantini was born and died in Buenos Aires, the only child of Italian
> Jewish immigrants who lived in the barrio of Villa Pueyrredon. From his
> marriage to Nela Nur Fernandez, he had three children: Violeta, Ana and
> Daniel. After he finished his university studies, he became a medical
> veterinarian. He practiced his profession in the fields near the city of
> Lobería, in the province of Buenos Aires, where he moved with his wife.
> There his two daughters were born.
>
> In 1955 he returned to Buenos Aires, and his son was born shortly
> thereafter. He worked in various jobs: veterinarian, salesman, potter,
> medical researcher, etc. Because of a fierce discipline, working "nailed to
> the chair", he was able to write and rewrite everyday.
>
> Costantini was the victim of political persecutions and blacklists. That
> posture of confronting the powerful that "Cacho" exercised naturally,
> without fuss, as the only possible road by which to travel through life,
> created both hatred and profound 

[Marxism] Are we in trouble?

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Over breakfast I heard Trump drone on from the tele printer about his
determination to kill, kill, kill.. Is this the new Trump with speech
carefully writenn by the Pentagon?

Some commentators told us to put our faith in McMaster and Kelly. And this
is the best the generals could come up with - Kill, kill, kill?
Why am I not surprised?

On a more optimistic front the fall out from Charlottesville has led to
calls from Indigenous Australians for a review of some of our monuments.
These include Robert Towns' statue in Townsville.  He was part of the
notorious slave trade in the late 19th Century when Pacific Islanders were
lured & kidnapped to slave in Queensland's sugar cane fields.

Then there is the statue of Captain Cook in Sydney which explicitly names
him as the "discoverer" of Australia.That claim has been offensive to
Indigenous Australians for a very long time.

comradely

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[Marxism] Inconvenient

2017-08-22 Thread Louis Proyect via Marxism

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INCONVENIENT
Written by Humberto Costantini
Translated by Sharlene Newman

I am not going to say that I was in the best possible world
but at least I had an archive
with all of its moons perfectly sorted,
the primrose folded four ways in the center drawer
here and there absurdities rest
off to the side of the bureau.

I do not claim to have been in the best possible world
but at least three or four friends delighted in my wine,
and three or four lovers delighted in my bed,
and my publisher truly believed in my novel,
and at a quarter to six
the timid ghosts quietly returned to chat with me.

I will not say that I was in the best of all possible worlds
but my future went on for at least a week out
wherein one could foresee one hundred and twenty lines written,
at least one insignificant inebriation,
as well as five minutes of daily exercise.

I was not, I will admit, in the best world possible
but generally things were reasonably clear;
fireflies did not hang from the roof as they do now,
nor did trains keep a wakeful vigil until dawn,
nor did September arrive declaring its presence
the wind did not show up in order to laugh to death at my face.

I do not wish to say that I was in the best of possible worlds
but this giant, trembling moon,
this unusual smitten moon,
this terrible red stop light of a moon,
this moon made of insomnia and small verses…
how maddening Lord,
how barbaric.

INCONVENIENTE
Escrito por Humberto Costantini
Traducido por Sharlene Newman

Yo no voy a decir que estaba en el mejor de los mundos
pero al menos tenía un bibliorato
con todas las lunas perfectamente clasificadas,
la primavera plegada en cuatro en el cajón del medio
y alguno que otro disparate
a un costadito del bargueño.

Yo no digo que estaba en el mejor de los mundos
pero tres o cuatro amigos apreciaban mi vino,
y tres o cuatro amantes apreciaban mi cama,
y mi editor creía firmemente en la novela,
y a las seis menos cuarto
dócilmente volvían a platicar conmigo los fantasmas.

Yo no diré que estaba en el mejor de los mundos
pero tenía un futuro hasta de una semana
donde estaban previstos ciento veinte renglones,
alguna intrascendente borrachera,
y hasta los cinco minutos diarios de gimnasia.

Yo no estaba, lo admito, en el mejor de los mundos
pero en general las cosas eran juiciosamente claras;
no colgaban luciérnagas del techo como ahora,
ni velaban los trenes hasta la madrugada,
ni septiembre llegaba con nombre y apellido
ni el viento venía para morirse de risa de mi cara.

Yo no quiero decir que estaba en el major de los mundos
pero esta enorme luna estremecida,
esta insólita luna enamorada,
esta terrible luna rojo stop de semáforo,
esta luna de insomnios y versitos…
qué trastorno Señor,
qué cosa bárbara.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humberto_Costantini
Humberto "Cacho" Costantini (April 8, 1924 – June 7, 1987) was an 
Argentine writer and poet whose work is filled with the rich slang 
(porteño) of Buenos Aires. Except for his years of exile in Mexico, his 
life was lived in and around Buenos Aires.


Costantini was born and died in Buenos Aires, the only child of Italian 
Jewish immigrants who lived in the barrio of Villa Pueyrredon. From his 
marriage to Nela Nur Fernandez, he had three children: Violeta, Ana and 
Daniel. After he finished his university studies, he became a medical 
veterinarian. He practiced his profession in the fields near the city of 
Lobería, in the province of Buenos Aires, where he moved with his wife. 
There his two daughters were born.


In 1955 he returned to Buenos Aires, and his son was born shortly 
thereafter. He worked in various jobs: veterinarian, salesman, potter, 
medical researcher, etc. Because of a fierce discipline, working "nailed 
to the chair", he was able to write and rewrite everyday.


Costantini was the victim of political persecutions and blacklists. That 
posture of confronting the powerful that "Cacho" exercised naturally, 
without fuss, as the only possible road by which to travel through life, 
created both hatred and profound loyalty among many toward him. With 
Costantini nothing was ever wishy-washy; one was either honest or one 
was deceitful. He made it known that he wouldn't forgive any kowtowing.


From his youth he was politically active: in his student days he 
confronted the Fascists of the Alianza Libertadora Nacionalista and was 
politically active in the Communist Party until serious divergencies of 
opinion with the bureaucratic and pro-Soviet leadership caused him to 
break away. His "doing what is right in the eyes..." moved him to admire 
profoundly Ernesto Che Guevara. In the 1970s he was politically active 
on the revolutionary 

[Marxism] Review – “Crown Heights” – Justice Delayed and Denied

2017-08-22 Thread Dennis Brasky via Marxism
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[Marxism] Fwd: Kanopy - Stream Classic Cinema, Indie Film and Top Documentaries

2017-08-22 Thread Louis Proyect via Marxism

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This is a brand-new streaming site that has excellent films for free as 
long as you have a membership in a public library. I have access through 
Columbia and noticed right off the bat that they have Aki Kaurismaki's 
"Le Havre" and Cristi Puiu's "The Death of Mr. Lazarescu", two masterpieces.


https://www.kanopystreaming.com/
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Re: [Marxism] Fwd: Racism: North and South

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As Dick Gregory said, "In the South, they don't care how close you get, as
long as you don't get too big.  In the North, they don't care how big you
get, as long as you don't get too close."

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> Like Malcolm X said, everything south of Canada is "the south".
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[Marxism] Fwd: Trump set them free « LRB blog

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Re: [Marxism] Fwd: How (Not) to Challenge Racist Violence | By Aviva Chomsky | Common Dreams

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Mike:

You are mixing up what I posted with what Louis posted.

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> Since you refer to her "example of self-righteous posing" and say that you
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> reading?
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> I didn't think it was.
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[Marxism] Fwd: insufficient respect: Because we bomb them, not because they hate us

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[Marxism] Fwd: Did a Kremlin Pilgrimage cause Alternet blogger’s Damascene conversion? – P U L S E

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A scorching take-down of Max Blumenthal and all the other sordid 
contributors to Alternet.


https://pulsemedia.org/2017/08/22/did-a-kremlin-pilgrimage-cause-alternet-bloggers-damascene-conversion/
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Re: [Marxism] "People's" Party or Workers Party?

2017-08-22 Thread John Reimann via Marxism
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Thanks, Mark, for your comments. I agree.

John Reimann

On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 9:18 AM, Mark Lause  wrote:

> I agree with much of what John writes on this . . . with a few
> caveats/additions.
>
> Yes, all parties have a class nature, but we shouldn't embrace the
> implication that this can be equated with their self-labeling.  American
> civilization is such a pervasively advertising and public relations culture
> that we really need to give some thought to this.  The class nature of
> ‎Lyndon LaRouche's organization had nothing to do with its decision to call
> itself the "U.S. Labor Party" and--conversely--a "People's Party" isn't
> necessarily a bourgeois formation because it doesn't have "worker" or
> "labor' in the name.
>
> In the case of this new formation, I think there are more serious
> problems.  No mass independent party movement large enough to have a
> serious impact comes about just because a handful of radicals decide to
> start a new party.  They have to be rooted in genuinely mass movements or
> associations or networks with an importance that goes beyond a specific
> locality or the sectarian concerns of any particular component(s).  Small
> efforts can be used to encourage such movements.
>
> In this case, I am concerned that the predominant founding concerns may be
> far too narrow to serve a wider interest.
>
> Most importantly, nothing like this can accomplish much without clear
> institutional commitment to a broad democratic inclusiveness--in
> decision-making as well as participation.  It should be capable of
> subsuming all those vast numbers that have often gone to the polls to vote
> Green, for example, and then left voiceless by the Greens in the fuiture
> shaping of their insurgency.
>
> Simply, put, I don't think that this thing can actually be done top-down
> by having a few recognizable names on a call.  Or, insofar as it could be,
> it wouldn't take us anywhere farther than the Greens has gotten . . . which
> would amount to nothing more than reinventing the wheel . . . .and a square
> Green wheel at that.
>
> And finally, my impression of the commitment of Socialist Alternative--the
> most obvious organizational participant in this--to independent political
> action is that it can be very inclined to opportunism . . . especially
> after taking both sides of the vital question as to how to deal with the
> Sanders campaign.
>
> Solidarity!
> Mark L.
>
>


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[Marxism] Fwd: The demise of Arab-Kurdish solidarity in Syria

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[Marxism] Fwd: Racism: North and South

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Like Malcolm X said, everything south of Canada is "the south".

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Re: [Marxism] "People's" Party or Workers Party?

2017-08-22 Thread Mark Lause via Marxism
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I agree with much of what John writes on this . . . with a few
caveats/additions.

Yes, all parties have a class nature, but we shouldn't embrace the
implication that this can be equated with their self-labeling.  American
civilization is such a pervasively advertising and public relations culture
that we really need to give some thought to this.  The class nature of
‎Lyndon LaRouche's organization had nothing to do with its decision to call
itself the "U.S. Labor Party" and--conversely--a "People's Party" isn't
necessarily a bourgeois formation because it doesn't have "worker" or
"labor' in the name.

In the case of this new formation, I think there are more serious
problems.  No mass independent party movement large enough to have a
serious impact comes about just because a handful of radicals decide to
start a new party.  They have to be rooted in genuinely mass movements or
associations or networks with an importance that goes beyond a specific
locality or the sectarian concerns of any particular component(s).  Small
efforts can be used to encourage such movements.

In this case, I am concerned that the predominant founding concerns may be
far too narrow to serve a wider interest.

Most importantly, nothing like this can accomplish much without clear
institutional commitment to a broad democratic inclusiveness--in
decision-making as well as participation.  It should be capable of
subsuming all those vast numbers that have often gone to the polls to vote
Green, for example, and then left voiceless by the Greens in the fuiture
shaping of their insurgency.

Simply, put, I don't think that this thing can actually be done top-down by
having a few recognizable names on a call.  Or, insofar as it could be, it
wouldn't take us anywhere farther than the Greens has gotten . . . which
would amount to nothing more than reinventing the wheel . . . .and a square
Green wheel at that.

And finally, my impression of the commitment of Socialist Alternative--the
most obvious organizational participant in this--to independent political
action is that it can be very inclined to opportunism . . . especially
after taking both sides of the vital question as to how to deal with the
Sanders campaign.

Solidarity!
Mark L.
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[Marxism] Fwd: Living in a void: life in Damascus after the exodus | World news | The Guardian

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[Marxism] Fwd: Labor Can Stop the White Supremacists in Their Tracks

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Re: [Marxism] Fwd: How (Not) to Challenge Racist Violence | By Aviva Chomsky | Common Dreams

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Sheldon,

Since you refer to her "example of self-righteous posing" and say that you "don't quite agree with 
this article," what in your opinion makes it worth reading?


I didn't think it was.
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Re: [Marxism] Fwd: How (Not) to Challenge Racist Violence | By Aviva Chomsky | Common Dreams

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Based on the context, I doubt it. It seemed aimed at personal boycotts
disconnected from larger campaigns (e.g. People who only buy sweatshop free
clothes or fair trade products at much higher prices).

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[Marxism] Fwd: Reply to a disgruntled 27-year old | Louis Proyect: The Unrepentant Marxist

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[Marxism] Right Wing rallies cancelled in wake of Boston mass protest

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Re: [Marxism] Fwd: How (Not) to Challenge Racist Violence | By Aviva Chomsky | Common Dreams

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Ms. Chomsky's mentioning of "boycotting certain products" as an example of
self-righteous posing appears to be a slap at the BDS movement, which
neither Chomsky appears to support.

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Don't quite agree with this article by Chomsky's daughter but it is worth
reading.

https://www.commondreams.org/views/2017/08/21/how-not-challe
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[Marxism] [SUSPICIOUS MESSAGE] Portugal Dominated Angola for Centuries. Now the Roles Are Reversed.

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(Even more disgusting than the ANC.)

NY Times, August 22 2017
Portugal Dominated Angola for Centuries. Now the Roles Are Reversed.
By NORIMITSU ONISHI

LISBON — How the roles have reversed: The colonizer, some Portuguese 
contend, has been colonized.


On the Portuguese coast of Cascais, where the nation’s royal court used 
to summer, a new 14-story condominium building looms confidently by the 
sea. So many of its apartments have been bought by Angola’s ruling class 
— sometimes a handful at a time — that the development has a nickname: 
the “Angolans’ building.”


Along the grandest shopping boulevard in the capital, Lisbon, Angola’s 
elite buy designer suits and handbags by the armful. And on one corner, 
above Louis Vuitton, sits the local office of Africa’s richest woman, 
Isabel dos Santos, a billionaire from Angola who has become one of 
Portugal’s most powerful figures by buying large chunks of the country’s 
banking, media and energy industries.


The money flowing into Portugal comes from the colony it dominated, 
often brutally, for hundreds of years, Angola. Now, the African nation 
is a major oil producer that has been led for the last 38 years by Ms. 
dos Santos’s father, President José Eduardo dos Santos.


Angola’s ruling class has profited so much during his tenure — and 
channeled so much of that money into Portugal — that when Angola 
threatened to cut off ties in recent years in response to reports that 
Angolan officials were being investigated for corruption in Portugal, 
Portugal’s foreign minister promptly apologized, setting off an 
intercontinental debate about the changing power dynamics between the 
nations.


“We had it in our heads that Angola was a poor country that needed to be 
helped,” said Celso Felipe, a Portuguese journalist and author of the 
book “The Angolan Power in Portugal.”


“And suddenly they were able to help us and to buy things that we cannot 
buy,” he said. “It was like a housekeeper buying your house. That is 
awkward.”


The conditions in both countries created a perfect match: As Portugal 
reeled from a financial crisis a few years ago, Angolans were enjoying 
an oil boom that provided enormous opportunities for self-enrichment by 
the elite, particularly the president’s family and inner circle.


Angola is often listed as one of the world’s most corrupt nations. And 
Portugal has been singled out for its laxness in reining in money 
laundering and bribery, particularly in its dealings with Angolans, 
according to the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, 
the research and policy organization of the world’s richest countries.


“In Angola, they call Portugal the laundromat,” said Ana Gomes, a 
Portuguese lawmaker in the European Parliament and a member of 
Portugal’s governing Socialist Party. “It’s because it is.”


But the two nations’ relationship has now slipped into a tense and fluid 
period. Oil prices are down and Portugal’s economy is reviving, leading 
to a tweaking in the balance of powers between the two countries. And 
Mr. dos Santos is due to step down after Angolans elect a new president 
on Wednesday, leaving the future of those who have benefited from his 
four decades in power — both in Angola and in Portugal — unclear.


In a case that has angered the Angolan government, Angola’s vice 
president, Manuel Vicente, was charged in February with paying a 
$810,000 bribe to a Portuguese judge to quash a corruption 
investigation, the furthest an Angola-related case has moved in 
Portugal’s judicial system. The vice president was accused of, among 
other things, laundering money by buying apartments in the “Angolans’ 
building” on the coast of Cascais. He has denied the allegations.


With billions invested in Portugal, including in some of its biggest 
public companies, the Angolans have bought Portuguese wineries, 
newspapers, sports teams and other trophies of the super rich. With 
Portugal giving them access to the rest of Europe and beyond, they have 
been catapulted, in a few short years, to the world’s jet set.


Projecting both glamour and gravitas, Ms. dos Santos, worth $3.5 billion 
according to Forbes, mingles with Hollywood and European celebrities, 
and recently gave a speech at the London School of Economics — all of 
which she has documented on her Instagram account.


In the past two years, her family has made a splash at the Cannes Film 
Festival: Ms. dos Santos sat in the front row of fashion shows, and Kim 
Kardashian cooed over a 404-carat diamond paraded at a party thrown last 
year by de Grisogono, the Swiss jeweler now owned by the dos Santos family.


“Thought I’d seen it all, this is 

[Marxism] Fwd: How One White Nationalist Became — and Remains — a Thorn in Texas A’s Side - The Chronicle of Higher Education

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What Mr. Wiginton lacks in style and originality, however, he makes up 
for in persistence. He has been stirring up controversy at Texas A for 
more than a decade, forcing university officials to repeatedly disavow 
his views and to deal with the public fallout from his events.


He’s been a near-constant thorn in Texas A’s side, despite attracting 
zero support from student groups and having no real connection to the 
university. He is not, contrary to other news reports, an alum. He 
enrolled as an undergraduate when he was in his 40s, took classes for a 
year, and then dropped out so he could fly to Russia to look for a wife 
and perhaps buy a cattle farm.


He didn’t get a wife or a farm, but he’s been back to Russia more than a 
dozen times since then, and he admires that country’s aggressive strain 
of white nationalism. You can watch a YouTube video of Mr. Wiginton in a 
black cowboy hat, telling a crowd of Russian neo-Nazis that he respects 
them for their "strong identity." You can also see some in the crowd 
greet his support with Nazi salutes.


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[Marxism] Fwd: Two white players join Cleveland Browns in NFL's largest anthem protest | Sport | The Guardian

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[Marxism] Fwd: Why the Democratic Party Can't Save Us From Trump's Authoritarianism

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By Henry Giroux

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[Marxism] Fwd: How (Not) to Challenge Racist Violence | By Aviva Chomsky | Common Dreams

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Don't quite agree with this article by Chomsky's daughter but it is 
worth reading.


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Re: [Marxism] The Constituent Assembly: Venezuelan Thermidor?

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while there are many problems not just in general but clearly with the
"official" and government response to the economic problems and serious
political crisis, i would just say there are a lot more voices than the
government spokespeople, the amplified voices of the hard right and
sometimes outright fascists on the streets or even those on aporrea, which
runs a wide range of views but is very far from the be all and end all of
left and revolutionary perspectives.

I would also say the government, and the movement as a whole, faces an
opposition that is desperate to take power not just as soon as possible but
not through elections, and this explains the sustained nature of the
violent protests and actual terrorist attacks (there are separate accounts
of who is responsible for what deaths than the one Joaquin mentions that paint
a different picture , but we
can leave aside the question of exactly whose killed who and say that
burning someone alive because you suspect they are Chavista, or just as
likely because they are poor and black, is terror, as is improvise
explosive devices that rip through a national guard contingent -- largely
drawn from the poorer sectors -- violent attacks on maternity hospitals and
military bases all amount to terrorist campaigns. Of course not everyone
who joins a protest is involved in or necessarily supports all these
things, but neither are they isolated).

This campaign of violence and terror has reached a bit of a dead end, and
partly because the constituent assembly elections went ahead despite
pledges to stop them, while no sector of the military has responded to more
than four months of these protests and appeals to bring the government
down, nor has any serious section of other institutions still loyal to the
process or at least constitution, broken, with pretty much the sole
exception of the attorney-general..

The opposition would prefer to come to power outside of having to face an
electoral test (even if they are clearly a reasonably chance to win
elections) because they want a period of time without having to rely on any
mandate in which they can smash up the social gains of the revolution. An
example of what they want is in neighbouring Brazil, where the unelected
coup president temer has an approval rating far, far worse than Maduro's
and his regime is ramming through harsh neoliberal and ant-worker measures
that go further than what the military dictatorship got away with. Compare
this to Argentine, where Macri came to power through electoral means and
has had a tougher time actually getting through his hard-right agenda.

And that is just Brazil, with far milder social reforms under the PT, and
dramatically less popular empowerment. In Venezuela, not only are they
desperate for a far deeper series of counter-reforms, but need to smash a
deeply organised mass movement, that whatever weakening it is has suffered
in recent years is still a force to contend with,. It isn't alarmist to
raise the spectre of 1973 in Chile, but whether it reaches such a scale,
there is no doubt the right coming to power, *especially* outside of
elections, it will involve a deepening of the terror already underway
(where it is at high levels already in the country side, see this detailed
and disturbing eyewitness account in Green let Weekly "The War for Power in
Venezuela's Countryside
").
The fact that in the two days they held power during the coup in 2002, when
they combined overturning all of the progressive laws including the new
constitution with killing 60 chavistas and hunted down and tortured many
more, is indication enough.

Then no doubt, once the worst of the counter-reforms are implemented and
repression against popular sectors achieved its aims, then you could have
elections, the country will be "ready" and up will jump representatives of
the friendlier face of the opposition and the elite, critical of the
"excesses" of recent times, wanting to "heal the nation" and "bring us back
together", end the excesses of the neoliberalism and terror the preceding
"government of national unity" has implemented *and* of course the
"excesses" of the Chavistas beforehand. Before then, they don;t WANT to
have to rely on any electoral mandate, it will only act as a handbrake on
their plans.

All this is not just "yes of course" level of ticking a box and saying
you;ve noted it, it is essential to the situation and the difficulties of
finding a way forward when the opposition won't talk and won't play the
constitutional games, with -- despite clear differences 

[Marxism] Comic Corbyn

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[Marxism] A mad world: capitalism and the rise of mental illness | Rod Tweedy | Red Pepper

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