[Marxism] Seth Lakeman's workers' lives
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Re: [Marxism] The-Opportunity-Costs-of-Socialism.pdf [not sent]
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * In New Zealand we have a national health-care scheme that has its origins mainly in a deal between the private medical sector (GPs etc, but excluding dentists, who refused to buy in) and the 1st Labour government in the 1930s. t was a classic part of Labour's 'rescue capitalism from itself' plan in the depression, but it did at least give us access to a hospital. It demonstrates all the inadequacies suggested by the two previous posters but still seems vastly better than a fully private (or Obamacare type) model. My wife has had ten operations (plus numerous scans etc) in the last ten years, one operation was private because her rich brother in law paid for it. This resulted mainly in avoiding a six-month wait. One was carried out in a private hospital because the specialist doctors tend to work in private practice for part of their time and do some hours in the state system, so the state sector farms some procedures out to the private hospitals. On at least one occasion she's had the same surgeon operate in both the private and public system. the public system is always struggling but I will say that once you are in (the system has accepted your GP's referral), you are in and we've found the staff to be really good. I'd take this system any day over the kind of abomination that passes for a hospital system in the States but it's still far from socialism. The alternative, largely insurance funded private system that runs parallel to the public hospitals doesn't cover accident and emergency and other high risk, low margin work, provides hotel style facilities with cable TV and blah blah blah, but increasingly we're seeing the same problems that the US faces with staff in the insurance companies being employed to find the loopholes (like "was this a pre-existing condition?" etc) to avoid paying out. Cheers, John On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 7:06 AM jgreen--- via Marxism < marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote: > POSTING RULES & NOTES > #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. > #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. > #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. > * > > On 24 Oct 2018 at 19:23, Ralph Johansen via Marxism wrote: > > >>> Thoughts on single payer which, no less than Medicare, is at best a > > way > > station to what everyone deserves as birthright: adequate preventive > > and > > curative health assistance, at commensurate costs which do not > > obscenely > > enrich a few. In other words, it's an arrangement which if > > implemented > > still masks serious shortcomings. Present single payer schemes from > > what > > I see would not at all disturb the over all regime of the > > pharmaceutical/medical complex in this country. ... > > Indeed! I strongly agree that the issue isn't simply financing the health > care, and > that single-payer would be simply one step forward, albeit a very > important one. > > Back in 2007 I prepared a chart comparing four different things, > * the present US system > * Calif. and Mass. plans > * national health care > * socialist medicine. > > See. > http://www.communistvoice.org/40cChart.html > > Being prepared before the ACA (Obamacare), it didn't include that. But it > provided > a framework that could deal with that as well. > > I prefaced it as follows: > > "A single-payer system of national health insurance would be a tremendous > advance on the present system, but it still will not be socialist care. It > will be > subject to cost containment and budget-cutting, as all social benefits > have been in > the period of neo-liberal economic restructuring of the last few decades, > and it will > be important for the working class to insist that national health > insurance is truly > universal and covers all residents of this country, including the > undocumented > immigrants. Meanwhile the California and Massachusetts plans would funnel > yet > more money to private insurers, have a hard time finding the money to do > so, > continue the privatization of social services, and despite their promises, > will not > solve the problem of universal coverage." > > And I elaborted on this in such articles such as "What would socialist > health care > be like?" I contrasted a truly socialist system with capitalist medicine > on such > topics as > > -Universal coverage vs. private insurance > -The limits of single-payer plans and national health care > -It's still connected to profit > -What is socialism? > -Universality > -Preventive care > -Two-tier care > -At the work place > -Pollution >
Re: [Marxism] Syria: Reply on Idlib, SDF, Radio Fresh etc
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * Response to Michael Karadjis. 1) ISIS in Idlib 2014: Michael claims that ISIS was no longer present in Idlib province in November 2014 when the Syrian Revolutionaries Front was crushed by Jabhat al-Nusra. Therefore the claim by Abu Omar al-Idlibi, leader of the Northern Democratic Brigade, that his group (which was at that time called the al-Qa'qa' Brigade) was driven out of Idlib because of its opposition to ISIS is "pure fantasy". In a previous message I quoted Aron Lund, who explained that there was a wave of recruitment to ISIS throughout Syria and Iraq after its capture of Mosul in June 2014. An example was that the Dawud brigade in Idlib province joined ISIS. Michael says that after the Dawud brigade left Idlib for Raqqa, there was no more ISIS in Idlib. However Lund says that ISIS supporters continued arriving in Raqqa from Idlib up to the time of writing his article (December 2014). Thus there were still some ISIS supporters in Idlib at least until that time. Michael says that all rebel groups in Idlib, including Jabhat al-Nusra, fought against ISIS. However Abu Omar al-Idlibi says there was a change of policy by Turkish-backed groups at some time during 2014 (he does not specify an exact date). Some groups which had previously fought ISIS ceased to do so, due to Turkish pressure. Instead they attacked Abu Omar al-Idlbi's group and other groups that continued to oppose ISIS. Cooperation between ISIS, Jabhat al-Nusra and some other groups is confirmed by a November 13, 2014 Associated Press report by Deb Riechmann. She says: "Militant leaders from the Islamic State group and al-Qaida gathered at a farm house in northern Syria last week and agreed on a plan to stop fighting each other and work together against their opponents, a high-level Syrian opposition official and a rebel commander have told The Associated Press "The Associated Press reported late last month on signs that the two groups appear to have curtailed their feud with informal local truces. Their new agreement, according to the sources in rebel groups opposed to both IS and Nusra Front, would involve a promise to stop fighting and team up in attacks in some areas of northern Syria "According to a Syrian opposition official speaking in Turkey, the meeting took place Nov. 2 in the town of Atareb, west of Aleppo, starting at around midnight and lasting until 4 a.m. The official said the meeting was closely followed by members of his movement, and he is certain that an agreement was reached. The official said about seven top militant leaders attended. "A second source, a commander of brigades affiliated with the Western-backed Free Syrian Army who is known as Abu Musafer, said he also had learned that high-ranking members of Nusra and IS met on Nov. 2. He did not disclose the exact location, but said it was organized by a third party and took place in an area where the FSA is active. "According to Abu Musafer, two decisions were reached: First, to halt infighting between Nusra and IS and second, for the groups together to open up fronts against Kurdish fighters in a couple of new areas of northern Syria "According to the opposition official, the meeting included an IS representative, two emissaries from Nusra Front, and attendees from the Khorasan Group, a small but battle-hardened band of al-Qaida veterans from Afghanistan and Pakistan. Also reported present at the meeting was Jund al-Aqsa, a hard-line faction that has sworn allegiance to IS; and Ahrar al-Sham, a conservative Muslim rebel group. "The official said IS and the Nusra Front agreed to work to destroy the Syrian Revolutionaries Front, a prominent rebel faction armed and trained by the United States and led by a fighter named Jamal Maarouf. They agreed to keep fighting until all of the force, estimated to be 10,000 to 12,000 fighters, was eliminated, the official said." https://web.archive.org/web/20141116155833/http://news.yahoo.com/ap-sources-al-qaida-reach-accord-syria-190921017.html Similarly the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said on November 1, 2014: "Reliable sources informed SOHR that some IS fighters reached individually to the village of al- Barah, town of Kensafrah and the eastern countryside of Ma’arret al- Nu’man to support al- Nusra Front and Jund al- Aqsa Organization in their clashes against the Syria Revolutionaries Front." https://web.archive.org/web/20141113083220/http://syriahr.com/en/2014/11/islamic-state-sends-some-fighters-to-support-al-nusra-front-in-idlib/ This is not surprising. Turkey's priority was to crush the Rojava revolution. To achieve this
[Marxism] Assad will fall
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * In the summer of 2015, the Assad régime forces collapsed in the northwest province of Idlib, town after town falling to the rebels, culminating in the humiliating siege of the Tiger forces led by the star military officer Suheil al-Hassan, in the National Hospital in Jisr al-Shugour. You wouldn’t have read this in the media at the time. Taking the lead from régime apologists like Patrick Cockburn, the mainstream narrative was that Assad had defied predictions of his demise and was the strong and stable leadership Syria needed as the only alternative to al-Qaeda and ISIS taking over the country with the aid and acquiescence of the West and its allies. An analysis dishonest in a number of aspects, such as Assad fighting ISIS rather than cooperating with them, but significantly, he had only survived because of the massive foreign intervention in his favour and an equally significant indifference by those powers rhetorically opposed to him. Russia provided a billion dollars of weaponry a month and UN Security Council vetoes against censure for his crimes, Iran provided tens of thousands of troops from its proxy Shia jihadist militias, firstly Hezbollah from Lebanon, but moving on to recruit from as far away as Tajikistan. The US blocked any anti-aircraft weapons that could have stopped Assad’s barrel bombing, and refused to take action to bring him to account even when he blatantly crossed President Obama’s red line by using a whole bunch of chemical weapons in 2013. http://notris.blogspot.com/2018/10/assad-will-fall.html _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Marxism] Correction? | Michael Roberts Blog
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[Marxism] Fwd: Georgia gubernatorial candidate
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[Marxism] Understanding the Rise of the Radical Right - The Bullet
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Re: [Marxism] The-Opportunity-Costs-of-Socialism.pdf [not sent]
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * On 24 Oct 2018 at 19:23, Ralph Johansen via Marxism wrote: >>> Thoughts on single payer which, no less than Medicare, is at best a > way > station to what everyone deserves as birthright: adequate preventive > and > curative health assistance, at commensurate costs which do not > obscenely > enrich a few. In other words, it's an arrangement which if > implemented > still masks serious shortcomings. Present single payer schemes from > what > I see would not at all disturb the over all regime of the > pharmaceutical/medical complex in this country. ... Indeed! I strongly agree that the issue isn't simply financing the health care, and that single-payer would be simply one step forward, albeit a very important one. Back in 2007 I prepared a chart comparing four different things, * the present US system * Calif. and Mass. plans * national health care * socialist medicine. See. http://www.communistvoice.org/40cChart.html Being prepared before the ACA (Obamacare), it didn't include that. But it provided a framework that could deal with that as well. I prefaced it as follows: "A single-payer system of national health insurance would be a tremendous advance on the present system, but it still will not be socialist care. It will be subject to cost containment and budget-cutting, as all social benefits have been in the period of neo-liberal economic restructuring of the last few decades, and it will be important for the working class to insist that national health insurance is truly universal and covers all residents of this country, including the undocumented immigrants. Meanwhile the California and Massachusetts plans would funnel yet more money to private insurers, have a hard time finding the money to do so, continue the privatization of social services, and despite their promises, will not solve the problem of universal coverage." And I elaborted on this in such articles such as "What would socialist health care be like?" I contrasted a truly socialist system with capitalist medicine on such topics as -Universal coverage vs. private insurance -The limits of single-payer plans and national health care -It's still connected to profit -What is socialism? -Universality -Preventive care -Two-tier care -At the work place -Pollution -Elitism -Overmedicated. -Poverty -Workers must put their stamp on the health system See http://www.communistvoice.org/40cCompare.html -- Joseph Green --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Marxism] News Audio: Women’s March on the Pentagon | Black Agenda Report Radio
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[Marxism] Greek comrades on the vacuousness of "anti-imperialism"
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * Terrific work: The Syrian revolution and the failure of the “anti-imperialist” left Monday 22 October 2018, by Kostas Kousiantas, Pantelis Afthinos This article was written after the bombing of Syrian military installations carried out by US, UK and French military forces on April 14th 2018 and before the attack by the Assad regime against Dara’a began. Kostas Kousiantas Pantelis Afthinos Kostas Kousiantas and Pantelis Afthinos participate in the editorial team of the Greek anti-capitalist web site “e la liberta” and in the local Kallithea committee of the Greek anti-capitalist political alliance ANTARSYA http://www.internationalviewpoint.org/spip.php?article5756 _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Marxism] Innovation Under Socialism | Current Affairs
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[Marxism] Centrists paved the way for the far right in Brazil | Brazil | Al Jazeera
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[Marxism] Jacobin author Jailed in Turkey
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Re: [Marxism] The-Opportunity-Costs-of-Socialism.pdf
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * It seems to me the other important point to make about this "report" is that the attempt to use GDP as the way to measure the "better" well being of Americans vs. the populations of the Nordic countries is to remind anyone who reads the "report" (or journalists who write about it) that what is left out are all the collectively provided goods in the Nordic countries that because they don't go through the "market" they show up as a lower "value" for GDP -- whereas because (for example) our health care system is private there is an artificially high "value" created for their products --- the over=pricing of pharmaceuticals due to patents, the over pricing of medical services due to artificiallly created shortages of medical professionals ---the lack of decent public transportation systems leading to overconsumption of individual motor vehicles and fuel --- etc. etc. Which then permits a real examination of all the work done by the Stiglitz-Sen commission on how to TRULY measure human well being --- AND FINALLY --- since the key to socialism however defined is the human instinct for collective solutions to problems --- the ONLY way to prevent climate induced disaster (or to survive it without a turn towards total barbarism or a worse than fascism centralized set of mini-governments wherever humans survive) is for some form of socialism to come to the fore. > > > > > > > > > > > > _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Marxism] The peer review industry: implausible and outrageous – TheTLS
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[Marxism] How Frats, Teams, and Gangs Divide, Conquer, and Now Judge America
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[Marxism] Peterloo: an 'anti-period drama' | David McAllister | Counterfire
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Re: [Marxism] What a Murder by Mussolini Teaches Us About Khashoggi and M.B.S.
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * One journalist who not only told the truth about Matteotti was Sylvia Pankhurst. She not only wrote about his murder, she create a Matteotti Defense Committee, raised money for his family. Writing in 1919, she also was one of the first non-Italian journalists to systematically warn about the dangers of Mussolini. See Barbara Winslow, *Sylvia Pankhurst: Sexual Politics and Political Activism.* *Barbara Winslow* *RESIST AND PERSIST!!!* cell and text: 212-8449447 Author: *Shirley Chisholm: Catalyst for Change*, Westview Press, NY 2014 available on Amazon in Kindle and book Follow me on twitter: @bwpurplewins instagram: @bwpurplewins On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 9:30 AM Louis Proyect via Marxism < marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote: > POSTING RULES & NOTES > #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. > #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. > #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. > * > > NY Times Op-Ed, Oct. 24, 2018 > What a Murder by Mussolini Teaches Us About Khashoggi and M.B.S. > > The murder of Jamal Khashoggi by the Saudis has striking parallels with > the murder of the Italian socialist leader Giacomo Matteotti by Fascist > thugs. > > By Alexander Stille > > (Mr. Stille teaches journalism at Columbia University.) > > In the weeks after the murder of Jamal Khashoggi by Saudi agents in > Istanbul, a question has been repeatedly asked: How could the Saudi > crown prince, Mohammed bin Salman, be so reckless as to sanction this > horrifying murder carried out in such a clumsy and shameless fashion? > > The answer, I think, is that dictatorships are inherently obtuse. > Dictators live in their own self-created bubble of adulation and > impunity, which leads them to huge misjudgments when they are forced to > act outside of the bubble. > > The premeditated and coldblooded murder of Mr. Khashoggi by the Saudis > has striking parallels with the premeditated and coldblooded murder of > the Italian socialist leader Giacomo Matteotti by Fascist thugs > operating on the orders of Benito Mussolini. > > On the afternoon of June 10, 1924, Mr. Matteotti was walking in Rome > when a group of Fascists grabbed him and stuffed him into a waiting car. > Two months later, his decomposed body was found about 12 miles away. > > Several days before his abduction, Mr. Matteotti had delivered an > impassioned speech denouncing widespread fraud and violence committed by > the Fascists during national elections two months earlier. He was > scheduled to give another speech when Parliament reopened the day after > his disappearance. > > The murder of a prominent critic of Fascism shocked Italy and the world. > Before Mr. Matteotti’s disappearance and murder, Italy’s democratic > allies had been prepared to believe that despite Mussolini’s violent > rise to power, he intended to respect the rules and freedoms of > parliamentary democracy. > > For some months, while an official investigation took place, Mussolini’s > political survival as the prime minister seemed to hang in the balance, > as evidence accumulated that Mr. Matteotti’s killers were part of a hit > squad operating under the control and acting on the orders of the prime > minister’s office. > > Mussolini survived the crisis because of the weakness and division of > his political opposition, because Victor Emmanuel III, Italy’s king, who > had invited Mussolini to form a government, was reluctant to risk a > “leap in the dark” by demanding his resignation. > > Mussolini was also saved by the complicity of foreign allies and > international public opinion to accept the implausible explanation that > Mr. Matteotti’s killers were Fascist hotheads who had acted on the spur > of the moment, to “teach him a lesson,” and killed him accidentally. > > Then, as now, there were even powerful oil interests in the affair — > possible payments to Mussolini’s brother Arnaldo Mussolini, the Jared > Kushner figure of the situation — that contributed to the consensus to > “get over” the brutal killing. > > Then too, the reaction of near-universal horror to the Matteotti killing > was surprising since violence had been a consistent feature of Fascism. > The thugs who killed Mr. Matteotti had already used violence, > intimidation and fraud during the 1924 elections that gave Mussolini a > majority in Parliament. The world — and most middle-class Italians — > credited Mussolini with preventing a Bolshevik-style revolution in Italy > and was prepared to overlook what it took to be a little
[Marxism] Trump threatens to withdraw from INF Treaty: No to a New Imperialist Arms Race!
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