[Marxism] How Journalists Covered the Rise of Mussolini and Hitler | History | Smithsonian
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[Marxism] Gunman in Yoga Studio Shooting Recorded Racist, Misogynistic Videos in 2014 - The New York Times
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[Marxism] 'The most intellectual creature to ever walk Earth is destroying its only home' | Jane Goodall | Environment | The Guardian
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Re: [Marxism] Democrats and Trump
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * The women's march in 2017 was accompanied by scores (hundreds?) of local actions --- we participated in one in Poughkeepsie, NY with thousands of participants (2-4 thousand by my recollection) -- there were major marches in all majo uran areas --- There is no conflict between the women's march in DC and NY and making room for local folks with neither the time nor money to travel JOHN: Is it to lobby the Congress or effect president Trump? Or to sell subscriptions to some publication or books? Or to help sales at museum gift shops?I ME: To put pressure on Congress and remind ourselves that we ARE in the majority against TRUMP -- A mighty coalition similar to the one that helped stop the US imperial war in Vietnam and forced a reluctant Democratic Party (Kennedy in particular) to support the second Reconstruction ... > > > members and friends who can and need to be involved and change the often > narrow > U. S. left, to actually reflect the U. S. working class. Local actions in > Los Angeles where > I reside, have been larger in numbers than those held in Wasgington DC, > the past few > years. And it is not just getting someone to participate in a protest > but to continue > their involvement in groups and becoming more aware of the system and our > history > of working people, who challenged and changed things.It was not the > politicians. > > > > > > A centralized demonstration in Washington DC would be positive, but I think > that localized protests are more important at this stage. There are all > sorts of local movements, some of which actually involve layers of working > class people. For instance, I know in Colorado that there is an > anti-fracking movement of this nature. Here in Oakland, although working > class people, including youth, are largely uninvolved in most protests, > still some are. More importantly, having local protests - all on the same > day - would make it easier and more natural to actually get out into the > working class communities, the working class schools (including community > colleges) and actually to the work places to start to at least start a > dialog with our class. It might not pay off immediately, but it's the > ground work that is absolutely, vitally necessary and - let's admit it - is > simply not being done on any serious scale. > > Then there's another issue: I think socialists should call for the protests > to be held during regular work hours and to involve civil disruption. In > other words, to call for workers to walk off their jobs. That then > indirectly starts to raise the issue of a political strike. This, in turn, > will run us head long up against the union leadership... which is purely a > good thing. > > I make this last point having had some experience with this. Back around > 2009 or so, there was a call for a one-day protest around education issues > here in Oakland. Thousands of students walked out of their schools. In the > coalition organizing for this, a debate arose whether to hold the main > protest during the day or after work hours. All those who didn't want a > conflict with the union leadership supported the second option. At the end > of the day, we won out and held it during the day and into the afternoon. > But I think it was vitally important to have that debate and to get the > majority in favor of calling it during work hours. It was equally important > to have Oakland's working class youth (overwhelmingly youth of color) at > the center of the event. > > John Reimann > -- > > _ > Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm > Set your options at: > http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/mameerop%40gmail.com > _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Marxism] The Quebec experience
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * From the thread Democrats and Trump. Ken Hiebert: " Québec solidaire can be traced back to small, far left groups. There were years of slogging before they got where they are today. That, I think, is a lesson that can be taken from the Quebec experience.” Richard Fidler: Ken misses the point. The breakthrough in Quebec came in the late 1990s when the "small, far left groups" realized the need to stop slogging on their own, to rethink the question of how to build an effective party of the left, to set aside largely irrelevant or untimely differences and to single out key forward-looking themes around which to unite and reach out to broader forces. Ken Hiebert: Before I go any further I should acknowledge that I have only visited Quebec and have never lived there. And I have only a limited grasp of French. (Sixty years ago my father instructed me to choose German over French in junior high school.) Even so, I have followed political developments in Quebec with great interest. I said, " Québec solidaire can be traced back to small, far left groups.” While that it is true enough, I’d like to agree with Richard that a part of the stream feeding into Québec solidaire was the “..women’s movement, …… the altermondialiste (global justice) movement. More recently the fight against climate change" This is an important part of the story. See, for example, http://www.casac.ca/node/141 Also, it should be pointed out that Quebec has a comparatively high rate of unionization. http://www.iedm.org/files/sept05_en.pdf Where I think Richard and I disagree is the extent to which the founding of Qs was a rejection of the party building project that preceded it. No doubt, for some people it was. But, as I understood it, the Trotskyist movement in Quebec did not make a negative assessment of its previous work as it joined in the broader groups. Whatever sectarian habits might have developed when were condemned to small group life , the Quebec supporters of the Fourth International were quite ready to join the broader formations. As activists in the Fourth International they would have been aware of a number of experiences. For me, the one that comes to mind is Spain where supporters of the FI were able to fuse with a part of a Basque nationalist group, ETA VI. It is my understanding that Paul Rose approached our comrades to ask them to be a part of the the newly launched Parti de la démocratie socialiste (PDS) (1994?). And they readily accepted this invitation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parti_de_la_Democratie_Socialiste https://canadiandimension.com/articles/view/paul-roses-tortuous-path-in-search-of-quebec-liberation Even if there should be a negative assessment of the work prior to the launching of PDS and later Québec solidaire, I think Richard will agree with me that the years of party building in Quebec did assemble a group of political activists who went on the contribute to the building of Québec solidaire. Applying this to the US, I believe that the work that people are doing now to build small, narrow groups will not be wasted, but will pull together forces that can contribute to the next step ahead. _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Democrats and Trump
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * It is very revealing about when people in New York City with financial resources are suggesting that most people across the U. S. with little funds and with much more difficulty to travel outside their region - should hold a national protest in Washington DC. Is it to lobby the Congress or effect president Trump? Or to sell subscriptions to some publication or books? Or to help sales at museum gift shops? If you really want average working people to participate, and continue after the event, then it should be locally held across the U. S. instead. Some people have children and other family members to take care of, that do not allow them to travel great distances, should they even have funds to do so, and many do not. It is important to organize and involve people locally - to build a left in the hundreds of communities where there is a too small organied left. And it is important to build a movement of working people who are not with funds to take airplanes and stay in hotels, eat out, etc What kind of left does one envision, if events are only for the better off financially? The democratic party operatives focus is to lobbying and identifying with those in government and not with identifying and organizing working people for their own interests. If the goal is to build a unified left - not tailing after bourgeois liberal politicians (whose goals are to end independent movements and serve the rulers), then start to do that by ones actions - and that includes organizing and welcoming poor working people. Among the radicalizing millemials, are those with limited funds and who have family members and friends who can and need to be involved and change the often narrow U. S. left, to actually reflect the U. S. working class. Local actions in Los Angeles where I reside, have been larger in numbers than those held in Wasgington DC, the past few years. And it is not just getting someone to participate in a protest but to continue their involvement in groups and becoming more aware of the system and our history of working people, who challenged and changed things.It was not the politicians. A centralized demonstration in Washington DC would be positive, but I think that localized protests are more important at this stage. There are all sorts of local movements, some of which actually involve layers of working class people. For instance, I know in Colorado that there is an anti-fracking movement of this nature. Here in Oakland, although working class people, including youth, are largely uninvolved in most protests, still some are. More importantly, having local protests - all on the same day - would make it easier and more natural to actually get out into the working class communities, the working class schools (including community colleges) and actually to the work places to start to at least start a dialog with our class. It might not pay off immediately, but it's the ground work that is absolutely, vitally necessary and - let's admit it - is simply not being done on any serious scale. Then there's another issue: I think socialists should call for the protests to be held during regular work hours and to involve civil disruption. In other words, to call for workers to walk off their jobs. That then indirectly starts to raise the issue of a political strike. This, in turn, will run us head long up against the union leadership... which is purely a good thing. I make this last point having had some experience with this. Back around 2009 or so, there was a call for a one-day protest around education issues here in Oakland. Thousands of students walked out of their schools. In the coalition organizing for this, a debate arose whether to hold the main protest during the day or after work hours. All those who didn't want a conflict with the union leadership supported the second option. At the end of the day, we won out and held it during the day and into the afternoon. But I think it was vitally important to have that debate and to get the majority in favor of calling it during work hours. It was equally important to have Oakland's working class youth (overwhelmingly youth of color) at the center of the event. John Reimann -- _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Democrats and Trump
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * Democrats aren't opposed to protests, but on their own terms. Not overwhelming in numbers (because that makes them more difficult to manage). Something like the Kavenaugh protests were ideal. Noisy mass lobbying. Something to get the TV cameras swinging away from the latest Trump tweet to refocus on the designated Democratic spokesperson. And they don't want them repeated. No sooner than Occupy bubbled up, the Democrats sent AFL-CIO officials and others with very sharp pins to puncture them. That they appeared made the point the Democrats were happy to see made, but they didn't want anything aimed at an ongoing mass movement. Let's recall the massive, wonderful potential of those women's marches that greeted Trump's inauguration. Nobody seemed to know who was behind them beyond the usual Democratic front groups. And they drowned that potential no sooner than they revealed it. Democrats didn't want a genuinely independent movement around civil rights or against the Vietnam War and were trying to thwart it continually. At this stage, what forces are there to build such a movement beyond the very limited perspectives the Democrats would find permissible? The various socialist organizations? Militant community organizations? Churches? We are up against a network of institutions and institutional responses the Democrats have been repairing and extending since the 1970s. Solidarity, Mark L. _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Democrats and Trump
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * A centralized demonstration in Washington DC would be positive, but I think that localized protests are more important at this stage. There are all sorts of local movements, some of which actually involve layers of working class people. For instance, I know in Colorado that there is an anti-fracking movement of this nature. Here in Oakland, although working class people, including youth, are largely uninvolved in most protests, still some are. More importantly, having local protests - all on the same day - would make it easier and more natural to actually get out into the working class communities, the working class schools (including community colleges) and actually to the work places to start to at least start a dialog with our class. It might not pay off immediately, but it's the ground work that is absolutely, vitally necessary and - let's admit it - is simply not being done on any serious scale. Then there's another issue: I think socialists should call for the protests to be held during regular work hours and to involve civil disruption. In other words, to call for workers to walk off their jobs. That then indirectly starts to raise the issue of a political strike. This, in turn, will run us head long up against the union leadership... which is purely a good thing. I make this last point having had some experience with this. Back around 2009 or so, there was a call for a one-day protest around education issues here in Oakland. Thousands of students walked out of their schools. In the coalition organizing for this, a debate arose whether to hold the main protest during the day or after work hours. All those who didn't want a conflict with the union leadership supported the second option. At the end of the day, we won out and held it during the day and into the afternoon. But I think it was vitally important to have that debate and to get the majority in favor of calling it during work hours. It was equally important to have Oakland's working class youth (overwhelmingly youth of color) at the center of the event. John Reimann -- *“In politics, abstract terms conceal treachery.” *from "The Black Jacobins" by C. L. R. James Check out:https:http://oaklandsocialist.com also on Facebook _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Marxism] Quick Highlights of 2018 | Solidarity Network - Workers' Center on Patreon
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[Marxism] Uzbek Jews and the Pittsburgh massacre | Louis Proyect: The Unrepentant Marxist
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Re: [Marxism] Democrats and Trump
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * My vote for slogan --- quoting Langston Hughes "Let America be America Again!" I agree any demonstration will be in danger of being hijacked by Dems seeking the Presidential nomination (the speakers' list could be 30 people -- all candidates !!!). That's why the organizers have to make it anti-TRUMP but not pro-Democrat -- it needs to be a warning to the dems to not compomise. Another slogan: "No Retreat, No Surrender!" (Bruce) _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Marxism] Democrats and Trump
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * Lou's idea of a "united front" demonstration against Trump could be a good idea, but what unifying slogan do you think is likely to be used: Out Now! Impeach Trump!? In any case, I think the Democrats and most of their coterie are not likely to be in the mood for demonstrations if they win the house, even less if they win the Senate. If they do win one or both, it's very liked that any demos will take on the coloring of "Impeach Trump" lending themselves to the presidential campaigns of any Demo willing to latch on to impeachment. Anthony _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Marxism] Counties Trump visits in midterms blitz don't reflect the nation as a whole - CBS News
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[Marxism] The Parachutist Lands in Brasilia • Commune
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[Marxism] Mike Davis on the Democrats and the left
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * Davis: Following Bernie Sander's unsuccessful campaign for the Presidential nomination in 2016, the Democratic Party has once more become a site of struggle for socialists. Leading up to the November 6th midterms, could the Democratic Party, in fact, be the best vehicle for social change? In this essay, first published over 30 years ago, Mike Davis warns us about the pitfalls of electoralism, and the passive clientelism that tends to replace popular politics under the bureaucratic guidance of the Democratic Party. https://www.versobooks.com/blogs/4109-the-lesser-evil-the-left-the-democrats-and-1984 Unfortunately, Davis seems to waffle on these questions: With the Democratic establishment in temporary disarray, the real opportunity for transformational political change (“critical realignment” in a now-archaic vocabulary) belongs to Sanders and Warren. We must hurry. https://www.jacobinmag.com/2016/11/trump-election-clinton-sanders-whites-turnout _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Marxism] [SUSPICIOUS MESSAGE] The Bolsheviks and democracy - Weekly Worker
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[Marxism] Has Brazil fallen to fascism?
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[Marxism] Book Excerpt: The Man in the Glass House by Mark Lamster
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[Marxism] New UN Report Warns of Impending Catastrophe as World Warms, Glaciers Melt
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[Marxism] The inexhaustible desire to keep talking about Marx
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[Marxism] Peterloo | Review of *Peterloo*, a film by Mike Leigh| Mike Wayne | Culture Matters
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