Re: [Marxism] [SUSPICIOUS MESSAGE] Re: [SUSPICIOUS MESSAGE] Re: There is a god

2020-03-27 Thread Dayne Goodwin via Marxism
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Harsh is the damage and destruction to working people, humanity and nature
caused by the rationally indefensible perpetuation of the capitalist system
for the last century.

On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 9:17 PM John Edmundson via Marxism <
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> Should sneeze, or am I being too harsh?
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[Marxism] [SUSPICIOUS MESSAGE] Re: [SUSPICIOUS MESSAGE] Re: There is a god

2020-03-27 Thread John Edmundson via Marxism
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Should sneeze, or am I being too harsh?

Cheers,
John

On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 2:47 PM Louis Proyect via Marxism <
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> > Bojo gets the bug:
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> > Now he's self-isolating . . .
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> > Cheers,
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> Like I said in my CounterPunch article today:
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> Ironically, the susceptibility of poor people to the disease through
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[Marxism] [SUSPICIOUS MESSAGE] Re: There is a god

2020-03-27 Thread Louis Proyect via Marxism

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On 3/27/20 8:30 PM, John Edmundson via Marxism wrote:


Bojo gets the bug:
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Now he's self-isolating . . .

Cheers,
John




Like I said in my CounterPunch article today:

Ironically, the susceptibility of poor people to the disease through 
their largely service-oriented jobs working as doormen, janitors, maids, 
security guards, hospital orderlies, etc. threatens the rich as well. 
Viruses, like zombies, are equal opportunity killers. Walking past some 
hedge fund manager on the street, Julio Jiminez might sneeze, after all.


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[Marxism] There is a god

2020-03-27 Thread John Edmundson via Marxism
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Bojo gets the bug:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/27/nonchalant-boris-johnson-accused-of-covid-19-complacency


Now he's self-isolating . . .

Cheers,
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[Marxism] Review: Vanishing New York: How a Great City Lost its Soul (2017) | Insurgent Notes

2020-03-27 Thread Louis Proyect via Marxism

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I mentioned Jeremiah Moss in my CounterPunch article today. Here's Loren 
Goldner's review of Moss's "Vanishing New York".


http://insurgentnotes.com/2020/03/review-vanishing-new-york-how-a-great-city-lost-its-soul-2017/

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[Marxism] Relief Package is neither stimulus nor workers' lifeline, it’s again massive bailout to tottering corporations By Mike Whitney

2020-03-27 Thread Ralph Johansen via Marxism

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The Senate’s Coronavirus Relief Package Must be Stopped!
By Mike Whitney
Global Research, March 27, 2020
Region: USA Theme: Global Economy, Law and Justice, Science and Medicine

The Senate’s $2 Trillion Coronavirus Relief Package is not fiscal 
stimulus and it’s not a lifeline for the tens of millions of working 
people who have suddenly lost their jobs. It’s a fundamental 
restructuring of the US economy designed to strengthen the grip of the 
corrupt corporate-banking oligarchy while creating a permanent 
underclass that will be forced to work for slave wages. This isn’t 
stimulus, it’s shock therapy.


Who can survive on $1,200 for one, two or three months time? And what 
happens to the millions of people who paid no taxes last year? Are they 
supposed to scrape by on nothing? Congress knows that most households 
live paycheck to paycheck. With no savings how will they pay the rent, 
the electric bill, the phone and the cable? Congress is quibbling over 
an extra $600 per month unemployment for those who are lucky enough to 
get it, when most people are just trying to figure out how they’re going 
to survive, how they’re going to pay the mortgage, when they’ll be able 
to go back to work, and whether their job will still be there when this 
nightmare is finally over?


Did you know that “if you don’t already have direct-deposit information 
on file with the IRS from previous tax returns, you won’t get the 
emergency funds for up to 4 months”? That means millions of people will 
have zero income for 4 months! What will become of them? Where will they 
go? Who will provide them with shelter and food? Shouldn’t congress be 
asking these questions?


And what happens to the 50% of the American people who had less than 
$400 saved before the crisis hit? What happens to them when they fall 
between the cracks and lose their apartments, lose their jobs, and lose 
their ability to maintain their tenuous standard of living? These people 
will never regain their financial footing. Never. It’s a death sentence. 
We’re going to see an explosion of homelessness, drug addiction, 
depression, alcoholism, suicide and crime unlike anything this country 
has ever seen before. Are the imbeciles in congress so blind that they 
can’t see that they’re condemning a large part of the population to 
permanent, inescapable, grinding poverty and desperation? Can’t they see 
that?


Do you understand why this bill is being rushed through congress?

It has a lot to do with the falling stock market but more precisely with 
the hundreds of corporations that have been hawking bonds to gullible 
investors who thought they were buying the debt of responsible, 
well-managed companies that used the money to improve their 
product-line, train workers, or build new factories. But instead, greedy 
CEOs have been using the money to buy shares in their own companies to 
boost executive compensation and reward shareholders. It’s a 
multi-trillion dollar scam that blew up in their faces causing a 
complete freeze-over in the corporate bond market. That’s what’s really 
going on, there’s a massive credit crunch that has a stranglehold on the 
bond market and there are only two ways to fix the problem:


Let the failing corporations default and pick up the pieces after the 
dust settles or… Launch a major $4.5 trillion bailout for busted 
corporations that drove their companies off a cliff.


Those are the two choices. Naturally Treasury Secretary Mnuchin chose 
the latter which suggests that the real motive for giving working people 
the $1,200 checks was simply to divert attention from the massive 
trillion dollar bailout to teetering corporations. That’s the real 
objective of the so-called fiscal stimulus bill. It’s another giant 
welfare check for the plutocrats.


The centerpiece of the new legislation is a provision for $425 billion 
giveaway to big business. The New York Times explains what is going on 
in a recent article. Here’s an excerpt:


“Republican senators have suggested creating a fund of $425 billion at 
the Treasury Department that the Fed could use to back emergency lending 
facilities — which would enable such programs to grow far beyond that 
scale.


Because the Fed cannot take on substantial credit risk itself, the 
Treasury Department backs its emergency lending, using money from a fund 
that contains just $95 billion. Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin on 
Sunday suggested that the new money in the Republican bill could be 
leveraged by the Fed to back some $4 trillion in financing.


“We do have limited amounts of money we’re using before Congress passes 
this bill, so we’re not waiting on Congress,” 

[Marxism] ‘For common benefit of all,’ Ireland nationalizes hospitals for duration of coronavirus crisis, sparking demand for US to follow suit

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https://www.nationofchange.org/2020/03/27/for-common-benefit-of-all-ireland-nationalizes-hospitals-for-duration-of-coronavirus-crisis-sparking-demand-for-us-to-follow-suit/
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[Marxism] Instacart workers planning strike

2020-03-27 Thread Anthony Boynton via Marxism
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https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/4agmvd/instacarts-gig-workers-are-planning-a-massive-nationwide-strike
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[Marxism] Manitoba chiefs organization wants Cuban doctor aid on COVID-19

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/indigenous/coronavirus-manitoba-sco-wants-cuban-doctors-1.5511712
 


Southern Chiefs Organization Grand Chief Jerry Daniels said a letter would be 
sent by Friday morning formally asking Prime Minister Justin Trudeau to allow 
Cuban Health Care Brigades into the country to provide medical aid to First 
Nations. 

"We need to move and we need to move quick," said Daniels. 

Daniels said half of his organization's 34 member Anishnaabe and Dakota 
communities want Cuban doctors to help them deal with the pandemic. 
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Re: [Marxism] [SUSPICIOUS MESSAGE] Life and Death in the Epicenter | Louis Proyect: The Unrepentant Marxist

2020-03-27 Thread Ernest Leif via Marxism
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> Stay safe Louis. I'm with you, asthma since a child and pneumonia 2x in 4
> years. The NYC I know and love now appears as a very dangerous place.


All be safe.

Best

Ernest
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[Marxism] Markets v. Lives | Boston Review

2020-03-27 Thread Louis Proyect via Marxism

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The reasoning goes like this. We can’t afford to keep these draconian 
social distancing measures in place much longer because we’re destroying 
the economy. Then come some graphs: lines of sharp cliffs to show us 
that the stock market is in freefall, unemployment is skyrocketing, and 
we’re headed for a new Great Depression—an economic cataclysm. The cure, 
we’re told, might be worse than the disease. An outbreak of armchair 
epidemiology and economics is aiding and abetting the problem, amplified 
by a news media eager for a hot take.


The most egregious cases came in late March in the New York Times when 
diet-doctor David Katz and then Iraq War–monger Thomas Friedman both 
decided they had the “plan” to end the pandemic and get the United 
States back to work within weeks. (Katz’s byline identifies him as the 
founding director of the Yale-Griffin Prevention Research Center, 
implying to many an affiliation with Yale. He actually no longer directs 
the center, and has no academic appointment at the university.) Neither 
half-baked argument makes much sense given the realities of where we are 
now in the pandemic and basic principles of disease control. It sounds 
wonderful to be able to go back to normal life while protecting those at 
high risk. But how? It is as if the men writing these takes—and we have 
not seen one from a woman—really do imagine that we are a world of 
individuals, born naked on a rock as so many philosopher kings have 
imagined.


full: 
http://bostonreview.net/science-nature/gregg-gonsalves-amy-kapczynski-markets-v-lives


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[Marxism] A California Story of a Slave’s Struggle for Freedom - Los Angeles Review of Books

2020-03-27 Thread Louis Proyect via Marxism

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BRIAN MCGINTY IS an enormously talented storyteller and historian. He 
has a journalist’s sense of how to ferret out facts and stories and 
weave them together. His new book, Archy Lee’s Struggle for Freedom, 
cleverly uses the story of the slave Archy as a window into California’s 
first decade as a state.


At one level, this is fine legal history. McGinty has sorted out an 
enormously complicated case involving a Mississippi-born slave, Archy, 
whose master, Charles Stovall, brought him to Gold Rush California, a 
free state. Stovall then tried to ship him back to Mississippi. Friends 
of Archy intervened. There were at least four sets of legal proceedings 
in different courts, with Archy in and out of jail for safekeeping, 
hidden by his friends, seized illegally (kidnapped) by Stovall, and also 
returned to Stovall after a court proceeding. At one point, Stovall was 
formally charged with kidnapping, and was bailed out, while his victim, 
Archy, remained in jail because he was possibly a fugitive slave. 
Confusing? You bet. But McGinty does a fine job of sorting it all out.


full: 
https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/a-california-story-of-a-slaves-struggle-for-freedom/


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[Marxism] [SUSPICIOUS MESSAGE] Life and Death in the Epicenter | Louis Proyect: The Unrepentant Marxist

2020-03-27 Thread Louis Proyect via Marxism

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When it comes to warding off COVID-19, I’ve been ahead of the curve. 
Last October, after a bout with acute bronchitis that lasted most of the 
month, I resolved never to go through such an ordeal again. I started 
using hand sanitizer and avoided touching my face. Like my glaucoma, it 
is a geriatric illness. When I checked the New York Times archives for 
tips on dealing with bronchitis, I was shocked to discover how many 
well-known and powerful geezers came down with it: Konrad Adenauer, 
Boris Yeltsin, Franklin Roosevelt, Winston Churchill, and Paul Robeson. 
None died from bronchitis, but around half were hospitalized, a routine 
treatment for powerful heads of state (except for Robeson.)


While bronchitis is not life-threatening, COVID-19 certainly is. As a 
septuagenarian, I am vulnerable. On top of that, the illness indicated 
that my immune system was compromised, just as you’d expect. Getting 
through this pandemic is a matter of life and death for me, especially 
since I live in New York City, the epicenter.


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[Marxism] THE RAPID DECAY OF WORLD CAPITALISM

2020-03-27 Thread Louis Proyect via Marxism

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From Anthony Brain.

https://anthonybrainapplyingtrotskyismfortodayandtommorw.wordpress.com/2020/03/27/the-rapid-decay-of-world-capitalsm-and-revolutionary-potential-of-large-layers-of-the-working-and-lower-middle-classes-moving-to-the-left-by-anthony-brain/

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[Marxism] Inside Joe Biden’s bizarre coronavirus bunker - POLITICO

2020-03-27 Thread Louis Proyect via Marxism

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“Biden has a thin line,” the outside adviser to Biden said. “As much as 
I dislike Trump and think what a bad job he’s doing, there’s a danger 
now that attacking him can backfire on you if you get too far out there. 
I don’t think the public wants to hear criticism of Trump right now.”


https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/27/joe-biden-coronavirus-bunker-151302

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[Marxism] Perhaps he can keep Lady Thatcher company

2020-03-27 Thread Alan Ginsberg via Marxism
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BBC News
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[Marxism] Must Society be Defended from Agamben?

2020-03-27 Thread Louis Proyect via Marxism

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https://criticallegalthinking.com/2020/03/26/must-society-be-defended-from-agamben/

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[Marxism] Charles Koch Network Attacks Shelter-in-Place Policies

2020-03-27 Thread Louis Proyect via Marxism

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https://theintercept.com/2020/03/26/americans-for-prosperity-cdc-coronavirus/

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[Marxism] Bio-austerity and Solidarity in the Covid-19 Space of Emergency – Part 2 | Lefteast

2020-03-27 Thread Louis Proyect via Marxism

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https://www.criticatac.ro/lefteast/bio-austerity-solidarity-covid-19-part-2/

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Re: [Marxism] How to Beat Coronavirus Capitalism Tickets | Eventbrite

2020-03-27 Thread MM via Marxism
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> On Mar 26, 2020, at 10:11 PM, Mark Lause via Marxism 
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> Need a bit more notice on these things.


Just passing along in case of interest. The recording of the call is available 
at the link provided:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lxwLHRKaB0

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[Marxism] Articles on Western imperialist retreat from Iraq

2020-03-27 Thread RKOB via Marxism

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I tried to send this to the list yesterday but without success.

U.S.-led forces depart Iraqi military base near Mosul in drawdown

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-iraq-security-usa/u-s-led-forces-depart-iraqi-military-base-near-mosul-in-drawdown-idUSKBN21D1UR 



France pulls out military forces in Iraq amid virus demands

https://apnews.com/77a45e7c9a6fb44d6e19c90f9a8ad2c6

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