Re: [Marxism] "Trump comments prompt doctors, and Lysol, to warn against injecting disinfectants"

[Mark Lause via Marxism]

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The bourgeoisie are still something of a diverse lot, though not enough to
matter in terms of what they have to offer.  On the one hand, Bill Gates
has been making the rounds on TV, sharing his medical insights and his
faith that, after all of this is over, we're going to keep all the yummy
online ways of doing business, etc.  On the other, there are still plenty
of entirely detached Trumpnuts among them.

I'm not even going to bother pushing back on this characterization of FDR
as having been good for us, because it's entirely irrelevant.

Right now, the pro-Democratic wing of the ruling class hasn't been able to
do offer anything better than Mr. Biden, more a John W. Davis than anything.

Cheers,
Mark L.

PS:  People need to think less about stuffing a capitalist ballot box and
more about voting with our feet.
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Re: [Marxism] "Trump comments prompt doctors, and Lysol, to warn against injecting disinfectants"

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What I find particularly interesting about this period, is that the
institutions the ruling class created to "make policy" (here I use the Bill
Domhoff model of the "policy planning process") seem to have been totally
ineffective in "convincing" Trump to do right by the ruling class --- which
suggests that in certain situations, a particularly powerful (crazy?  sui
generis??) "leader" can override the class interests of the Bourgeoisie
. for good (think FDR) or evil (think Trump, Hitler)




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Re: [Marxism] "Trump comments prompt doctors, and Lysol, to warn against injecting disinfectants"

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Glenn Kissack asks if anybody has studied whether the US capitalist class
is at all concerned about having this lunatic in as president. I've
actually written about that over and over. The US capitalist class is
somewhat divided. One wing, as represented by the Wall St. Journal editors,
thinks about next quarter's balance sheet - i.e., immediate profits -
first, last and only. Prior to the 2016 elections, the WSJ was entirely
hostile to Trump. Ever since he pushed through his tax giveaway, they have
done a one-eighty and have been unstinting in their praise, despite what
they called his "chaos theory" of government. Occasionally, such as when he
first signalled his pullout of troops from Syira, they were critical, but
overall they have supported him. His support from the more crazed wing
shows in the tremendous war chest he has accumulated for the upcoming
election. Aside from the sports and gambling wings (is there really a
difference?), I cannot discern any particular wing that supports him.

The mainstream, however, is extremely worried. This is reflected in the
in-depth criticisms of him seen in the journal of the Council on Foreign
Relations - "Foreign Policy" - as well as the even harsher criticisms of
him by former top Republican strategists like Max Boot and George Conway
III (husband of Trump representative Kellyanne Conway), as well as in the
editorials of the NY Times and the Washington Post. We also see it in the
number of top generals who cycled through the Trump administration. I think
these military tops are in very close contact with the tops of the
capitalist class.

It is a symptom of the crisis of US capitalism that they cannot as strongly
influence the consciousness of masses of workers anymore and, despite their
opposition to Trump, he may still get reelected.

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Re: [Marxism] "Trump comments prompt doctors, and Lysol, to warn against injecting disinfectants"

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I have a slightly more ghoulish curiosity about how many of them are
actually ignoring social distancing, gathering in large crows with others
who believe it's all a hoax, and basically taking up his most
self-destructrive and lethal kind of advice, including this latest.  I
mean, it's a very big country and a media that gives him a massive
audience, and his followers include a lot of the most gullible bipeds on
the planet.
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[Marxism] "Trump comments prompt doctors, and Lysol, to warn against injecting disinfectants"

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For me the question is what impact this will have among his supporters.
What percentage of them will be inclined to turn away from him?
I expect his supporters are not all the same.
ken h

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Re: [Marxism] "Trump comments prompt doctors, and Lysol, to warn against injecting disinfectants"

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Mark, does anything surprise us anymore? 

I was wondering if there's evidence that a significant section of the U.S. 
bourgeoisie is distressed at having a moron in charge of the executive branch 
at a time of great medical and economic peril. Do we know of anyone studying 
this in depth?

Glenn

> Did any of us ever expect to see a headline like that?
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[Marxism] "Trump comments prompt doctors, and Lysol, to warn against injecting disinfectants"

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Did any of us ever expect to see a headline like that?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/04/24/disinfectant-injection-coronavirus-trump/
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