Re: [Marxism] What an embarrassing article from a Marxmail subscriber

2016-09-12 Thread Gary MacLennan via Marxism 
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I have kept silent on the whole sad Syrian saga.  The suffering of the
people is too much to contemplate. My high hopes for the Arab Spring have
been drowned in blood by the Imperialists and their lackeys.  But to see
Putin constructed as an historically progressive figure is just a bridge
too far.  What have we come to? Can't we spot evil any more?

comradely

Gary

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> We should also seriously interrogate the notion of politicians and look to
> Marx himself for inspiration when dealing with Assad and Putin. He knew
> exactly what Abraham Lincoln was and was not as a white former railroad
> lawyer and son-in-law of a slave-owning family. Yet his journalism for
> Horace Greeley and letters to the president would make you think that the
> Great Emancipator was a premonition of Lenin. That is not because he was
> blind to Lincoln’s many massive flaws. Instead it was because he saw the
> Union Army as an engine of historical progress despite the flaws. Does
> Vladimir Putin have similar flaws? Yes, many, but his challenge to NATO and
> the imperial project is objectively a progressive goal and effort despite
> the flawed engine that delivers it.
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> syrian-war-and-the-meaning-of-empire/
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Re: [Marxism] What an embarrassing article from a Marxmail subscriber

2016-09-12 Thread Clay Claiborne via Marxism 
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Putin as Lincoln? These people are unbelievable!

Clay Claiborne, Director
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> exactly what Abraham Lincoln was and was not as a white former railroad
> lawyer and son-in-law of a slave-owning family. Yet his journalism for
> Horace Greeley and letters to the president would make you think that the
> Great Emancipator was a premonition of Lenin. That is not because he was
> blind to Lincoln’s many massive flaws. Instead it was because he saw the
> Union Army as an engine of historical progress despite the flaws. Does
> Vladimir Putin have similar flaws? Yes, many, but his challenge to NATO and
> the imperial project is objectively a progressive goal and effort despite
> the flawed engine that delivers it.
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> http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/09/12/the-israel-lobby-the-
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[Marxism] What an embarrassing article from a Marxmail subscriber

2016-09-12 Thread Louis Proyect via Marxism 

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We should also seriously interrogate the notion of politicians and look 
to Marx himself for inspiration when dealing with Assad and Putin. He 
knew exactly what Abraham Lincoln was and was not as a white former 
railroad lawyer and son-in-law of a slave-owning family. Yet his 
journalism for Horace Greeley and letters to the president would make 
you think that the Great Emancipator was a premonition of Lenin. That is 
not because he was blind to Lincoln’s many massive flaws. Instead it was 
because he saw the Union Army as an engine of historical progress 
despite the flaws. Does Vladimir Putin have similar flaws? Yes, many, 
but his challenge to NATO and the imperial project is objectively a 
progressive goal and effort despite the flawed engine that delivers it.


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