Re: [Marxism] Hillary Clinton Doesn’t Deserve the Black Vote

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On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Mark Lause via Marxism <
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> He described this as the mechanisms by which the ruling circles remained in
> power and the way in which the toiling masses are left with no alternatives
> but to pick the lesser predator.
>

Please explain why picking the greater predator was not still an
alternative?

Clay


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Re: [Marxism] Hillary Clinton Doesn’t Deserve the Black Vote

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The original analogy was Vilfredo Pareto 1848-1923,
http://media.pfeiffer.edu/lridener/DSS/Pareto/PARETOW6.HTML

He described this as the mechanisms by which the ruling circles remained in
power and the way in which the toiling masses are left with no alternatives
but to pick the lesser predator.
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[Marxism] Hillary Clinton Doesn’t Deserve the Black Vote

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Clay Claiborne said:
95% of the Afro-Americans you see on TV and think flirting with Trump are being 
well paid to fool you. You may not understand how GOP politics is play in the 
US, but I do. 

Googling your Malcolm X quote turns up nothing. If you can rephrase I will try 
again. What I did find was this pro-Trump piece:

"Hillary Is Closer To Mussolini Than Trump Is To Hitler"

www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-13/hillary-closer-mussolini-trump-hitler




Ken Hiebert replies:
Previously I said:
I think Malcolm X once said, "If they want you to vote for Mussolini, they'll 
run Hitler against him."

So far I have found nothing on line that would support my recollection.  The 
closest I came to this was Malcolm X's description of the liberals and 
conservatives as the fox and the wolf.
I did run across an interesting discussion of his stance on the 1964 election.  
He clearly did not support Johnson.  And there is debate over whether or not he 
advocated a vote for Goldwater.
http://www.nytimes.com/1964/09/08/malcolm-x-article-favors-goldwater.html?_r=0

As for some Afro-Americans I have seen on TV advocating support for Trump, you 
could be right.  They might be paid.
But their appeal to black voters is based on the idea that they can get more 
out of the Democrats if the Democrats see some black voters moving to the 
Republicans. 
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