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Louis -- I think I am building a reputation here as a "tired old reactionary" whose revolutionary bona fides are non-existent -- My response on Jefferson and Washington is that everything you said about their behavior is right -- especially as concerns the First Nations of British North America --- but I would not spend a penny nor lift a finger to support actions to get rid of anything celebrating them --- My reason --- dont' go looking for battles that you cannot win, nor enemies that you want as allies --- The communists picked and chose from among the "heroes" of American history with which to hitch their wagons --- political opportunism or genuine mining of tradition, take your pick --- and identified the progress they wanted to make with the progress that had been made in the past. They were clueless about native peoples --- I mean my own father wrote a line celebrating ANDREW JACKSON in The House I Live In (Paul Robeson sang those words in one of his recordings -- but replaced Jackson with Douglass in a different one!) --- What does "our side" gain by taking a unifying struggle -- getting rid of Confederate monuments (which are monuments to white resistance to black progress in the late 1890s and the 1960s!) -- and dividing it by saying -- OH, and while we're at it, in addition to getting rid of monuments to Jefferson Davis, Robert E. Lee and other traitors, let's go after Washington and Jefferson ... (and Lincoln and Grant??) Nope -- let's keep our eyes on the prize as we join in the battle for the THIRD RECONSTRUCTION ... (would Lenin call me a renegade like Kautsky??) [Mike Meeropol] _________________________________________________________ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: https://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com