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Re: [Marxism] Lenin's Tomb on Charlie Hebdo
POSTING RULES NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * Agreed, Joe. Here's Shane's punchline: Exterminate all the brutes! Moderator, do your thing, call an end to it. On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 2:48 PM, Joseph Catron via Marxism marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu wrote: POSTING RULES NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * Yes, yes, Shane. You don't like Muslims (all of whom use the phrase Allahu Akhbar) and consider them scum. We all get it, okay? What I'm curious about is how long the moderators will tolerate this transparent race-baiting. On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Shane Mage via Marxism marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu wrote: By accusing the victims of the allahu-akbarist scum as racists you are solidarizing yourself with the Freedom Fighter Nazis. -- Hige sceal þe heardra, heorte þe cenre, mod sceal þe mare, þe ure mægen lytlað. _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/acpollack2%40gmail.com _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Lenin's Tomb on Charlie Hebdo
POSTING RULES NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * i respect Shane Mage's personal history and contributions as part of the left (take that Shane). i appreciate his acerbic comments when he thinks someone is being irrational, i.e. seeming to confuse a religion with a 'race.' I agree with Louis that Shane doesn't need to repetitively make the same point in responding to every single contribution to a discussion. On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 12:54 PM, Louis Proyect via Marxism marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu wrote: POSTING RULES NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * On 1/7/15 2:48 PM, Joseph Catron via Marxism wrote: What I'm curious about is how long the moderators will tolerate this transparent race-baiting. I am recovering from the flu right now and don't have much energy to rein this in. Shane's Islamophobia is pretty well established at this point. Furthermore, he has never once shown any interest in actually persuading anybody on Marxmail about anything but uses this forum to get attention paid to his snarky, one or two sentence trolling expeditions. What a waste of a Columbia University doctorate in economics, to play the crank on a mailing list of 1500 people looking for in-depth and substantive analysis. Shane: you have posted six times today on this. That is enough. ENOUGH. _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/ options/marxism/daynegoodwin%40gmail.com _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Lenin's Tomb on Charlie Hebdo
POSTING RULES NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * On Jan 7, 2015, at 3:23 PM, John Obrien via Marxism wrote: Opposing religion and religious fanatics - is not racist to many atheists as myself. Why not be open and state you favor Islam, or some other religious superstition and why you favor censorship of atheists on a Marxist List? Who wrote: Religion is the opium of the people Ah, but opium, used right, is a very valuable drug! _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
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POSTING RULES NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * It's nice to read Richard Seymour's post but also distressing to see the kind of garbage that is posted in response both by leftists like Shane and the commentators on the website itself. It's not new to see leftists dismissing the scourge of Islamophobia, or even having difficulty understanding what it is, as though the campaign (crusade?) against Islam in France and in some parts of the United States is anything but a racialized campaign to scapegoat migrants or drum up war propaganda. It is the counter to the campaign by many on the right (and too many on the left) to find anti-Semitism wherever Israel's barbarism is rightfully singled out, or whenever the larger issue of Jewish integration into the West (and Muslim, African, and other exclusion) is brought up. With all the barrage of sentiments about protecting freedom of speech, it's a wonder nobody has brought up the fact that Muslims in France are barred from wearing certain types of clothing on exclusively cultural grounds, that they are targeted mercilessly by police, that hate speech laws are used to target their community rather than to protect it, and perhaps most embarrassingly that the French government had the gall to threaten jail sentences against anyone who dared protest this summer's Gaza massacre of Muslims. Note also how in Norway, few saw the right-wing terror attack on student democracy activists at a political summer camp by Anders Breivik (originally blamed on the Muslims) as an attack on freedom of speech, but instead reduced it to the attitude of a crazy person -- as though his ideas were anything but the result of far-right anti-Muslim activism that one would think threatens the freedom of Muslims, immigrants, left-wing activists, political freedom, etc. Freedom of speech, like terrorism, is not an objective term despite attempts by theorists to come up with objective definitions. Culturally and legally, both terms are used by the dominant classes to frame that which is worth protecting and that which is threatening. And no, I am not criticizing the sympathy with the journalists killed, I think it goes without saying that what was done was atrocious and deserves condemnation from all quarters. I am criticizing the narrative. - Amith On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 12:46 PM, Shane Mage via Marxism marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu wrote: POSTING RULES NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * On Jan 7, 2015, at 3:23 PM, John Obrien via Marxism wrote: Opposing religion and religious fanatics - is not racist to many atheists as myself. Why not be open and state you favor Islam, or some other religious superstition and why you favor censorship of atheists on a Marxist List? Who wrote: Religion is the opium of the people Ah, but opium, used right, is a very valuable drug! _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/ options/marxism/amithrgupta%40gmail.com _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
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POSTING RULES NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * Well that quote goes along with other verbiage - e.g. .sigh of the oppressed creature which changes the connotation. - Original Message -From: John Obrien via Marxism marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu Who wrote: Religion is the opium of the people -- _Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htmSet your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/srobin21%40comcast.net _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Lenin's Tomb on Charlie Hebdo
POSTING RULES NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * i respect Shane Mage's personal history and contributions as part of the left (take that Shane). i appreciate his acerbic comments when he thinks someone is being irrational, i.e. seeming to confuse a religion with a 'race.' I agree with Louis that Shane doesn't need to repetitively make the same point in responding to every single contribution to a discussion. i think this comment by Shane is a contribution to discussion, not just a repetition... On Jan 7, 2015, at 2:54 PM, Louis Proyect via Marxism wrote: Shane's Islamophobia is pretty well established at this point. Since I have never, ever, in my life said anything even implying that islam is in any way more objectionable, or more to be feared, than christianity or judaism, the accusation of Islamophobia is just another insult, nothing more. and Andrew Pollak, who cheers when his Syrian cohorts yell allahu akbar (and who of course was capable of no response to my criticism of his one-liner endorsing Seymour's slander of the victims) instructed him: Moderator, do your thing, call an end to it. and was obeyed: Shane: you have posted six times today on this. That is enough. ENOUGH. No it ain't. A dialogue has gone on long enough only when every point raised has been actually argued. Who has raised an argument that muslims are a race? or that racism is a term with any applicability to people who neither are a race nor are looked on by anybody as such? Who has actually defended the proposition that there is ever anything wrong about ridiculing the fetish figures of a religion? Who has offered any justification for the use of slanderous language against the victims of a monstrous crime? Only those unable to defend their words cry, like an Anytus, for an end to it. _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
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POSTING RULES NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * Actually surpirsed at the poverty of this piece. While, as usual, Seymore manages to say in 500 words what should be said in 20, all he tells us is: I don't like these liberals pretending to be leftists and well the security state is the enemy. Seriously? No shit. But against the security state but for what? Strategic alliances with Islamists? Oh wait, that was tried already and they got George Galloway...how's that working out now? http://www.leninology.co.uk/2015/01/charlie-hebdo.html _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
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POSTING RULES NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * On Jan 7, 2015, at 10:42 AM, Ed George via Marxism wrote: http://www.leninology.co.uk/2015/01/charlie-hebdo.html Seymour makes polite noises deploring mass murder--and then slanders the victims as racist because...because...oh, because they are disrespectful of a reactionary ideology that, though it is professedly a RELIGION, he identifies as a race. Well, Seymour, if Charlie Hebdo is racist then these allahu-akbar-ist Freedom Fighters are antiracists just like you are. So your slander of their victims explains itself, as an act of antiracist solidarity. Shane Mage L'après-vie, c'est une auberge espagnole. L'on n'y trouve que ce qu'on a apporté. Bardo Thodol _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
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Re: [Marxism] Lenin's Tomb on Charlie Hebdo
POSTING RULES NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * Rejection of religious fundamentalism may or may not be a ”left position (depending on what secret definition you have of the meaningless word left) but to call it race baiting is to solidarize with the allahu-akbarist Nazis Yes, but these caricatures (at least the Mohamed ones) aren’t aimed at ”religious fundamentalism” but Islam in general. And given the dominance of Islam in the Arab world such caricatures can’t really be understood as anything else than a more or less blanket condemnation aimed at Arab culture by European ”ex-colonialists”. (Of course, there is a huge difference between the Mohamed caricatures and those of someone like Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi.) _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/daniel.lindvall%40filmint.nu _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
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POSTING RULES NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * On Jan 7, 2015, at 12:49 PM, Daniel Lindvall wrote: Rejection of religious fundamentalism may or may not be a ”left position (depending on what secret definition you have of the meaningless word left) but to call it race baiting is to solidarize with the allahu-akbarist Nazis Yes, but these caricatures (at least the Mohamed ones) aren’t aimed at ”religious fundamentalism” but Islam in general. And given the dominance of Islam in the Arab world such caricatures can’t really be understood as anything else than a more or less blanket condemnation aimed at Arab culture Condemnation of ANY visual depiction of a semi-deified fetish object (iconoclasm) like a Prophet or Savior is THE primary exemplar of ”religious fundamentalism.” What do you mean Arab World or Arab Culture? There are no such things!! This is the logic: by equating a form of *superstitio* to a whole race (the Arabs) you make any satire of that *superstitio* into a form of racism, enabling you to solidarize with the allahu- akbarist Freedom Fighters (using disagreement with their methods as alibi) by slandering their victims. Shane Mage L'après-vie, c'est une auberge espagnole. L'on n'y trouve que ce qu'on a apporté. Bardo Thodol _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Lenin's Tomb on Charlie Hebdo
POSTING RULES NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * on Mittwoch, 7. Januar 2015 at 19:09, Charles Faulkner (Lacenaire!) via Marxism wrote: i question charlie hebdo's motivations in publishing the cartoons and subsequently any claim they have to being of the left. Charlie Hebdo used to have the sub-title bête et méchant, which I translate as stupid and vicious. The copy which I shortly saw on the telly today had the line periodique irresponsable, irresponsabel periodical. They just enjoy to make fun of other people, and to humiliate them. They do (or should we say now did?) know that sex sells, and used it, and they also knew that making fun of the victims of French colonialism sells. Marine Le Pen of the fascist Front National took of course the occasion to assign the responsability for the attack to islamism. Listening to here hate speech on www.frontnational.com or Youtube, hearing her speaking of crimes not committed for so many decades, the massaker came to my ming, the attack on Arabs demonstrating for freedom in the Algerian city of Setif by French colonial troops, on the same May 8, 1945, when in Europe the unconditional capitulation of the German imperialist army was signed. And the torture by the same French colonial troops later during the liberation war for Algeria. And many other crimes. Cheers, Lüko Willms _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
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POSTING RULES NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * on Mittwoch, 7. Januar 2015 at 16:42, Ed George via Marxism wrote: http://www.leninology.co.uk/2015/01/charlie-hebdo.html Thank you. The call to be calm and sober is so much missing on the Corporate News Networks only spreading Faux News. Cheers, Lüko Willms _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
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POSTING RULES NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * On Jan 7, 2015, at 1:57 PM, Tristan Sloughter via Marxism wrote: the cartoons depict a racist caricature. By accusing the victims of the allahu-akbarist scum as racists you are solidarizing yourself with the Freedom Fighter Nazis. It is beyond dumbfounding how someone can not see that when it is so clearly in front of their face. Indeed! Shane Mage L'après-vie, c'est une auberge espagnole. L'on n'y trouve que ce qu'on a apporté. Bardo Thodol _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Lenin's Tomb on Charlie Hebdo
POSTING RULES NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * On Jan 7, 2015, at 1:57 PM, Lüko Willms via Marxism wrote: on Mittwoch, 7. Januar 2015 at 19:09, Charles Faulkner (Lacenaire!) via Marxism wrote: i question charlie hebdo's motivations in publishing the cartoons and subsequently any claim they have to being of the left. They just enjoy to make fun of other people, and to humiliate them. They do (or should we say now did?) know that sex sells, and used it, and they also knew that making fun of the victims of French colonialism sells. Another leftist jumps to slander the victims and thus to justify and solidarize himself with the allahu-akbarists. Shane Mage L'après-vie, c'est une auberge espagnole. L'on n'y trouve que ce qu'on a apporté. Bardo Thodol _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Lenin's Tomb on Charlie Hebdo
POSTING RULES NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * I've lost the place in the thread where there are links to examples of the magazine's Islamophobia. On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 12:25 PM, Shane Mage via Marxism marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu wrote: POSTING RULES NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * On Jan 7, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Charles Faulkner via Marxism wrote: aside from the platitudes to decency in protecting free speech, as richard pointed out, what claim does such a paper have to being left when it engages in rather obvious race baiting? Rejection of religious fundamentalism may or may not be a left position (depending on what secret definition you have of the meaningless word left) but to call it race baiting is to solidarize with the allahu-akbarist Nazis. am i just preaching to the choir? to the choir, no doubt, in the synagogue of Satan. Shane Mage L'après-vie, c'est une auberge espagnole. L'on n'y trouve que ce qu'on a apporté. Bardo Thodol _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/ options/marxism/acpollack2%40gmail.com _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
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Actually it was Richard who made the charge, which is one reason I liked
his column. Because if he's right that amends how we discuss this case.
On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 1:09 PM, Charles Faulkner lacena...@comcast.net
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andrew, if i contributed to a misunderstanding, i apologize. i don't know
if charlie hebdo is islamophobist or not. i don't really even like that
term and try not to use it.
separately, i looked at some of their cartoons and found them provocative
at best. given the large arab muslim population in france, i consider
their publishing of them to be race baiting, just as i would find klan
cartoon depictions of black religious practices race baiting in selma,
alabama. nevermind that i am not religious, believe religion to be a great
blight and might even privately laugh at satiric depictions of religion.
most people are religious and there is little to gain in rubbing their
nose in their folly. at best it's bad manners.
and yes, i question charlie hebdo's motivations in publishing the cartoons
and subsequently any claim they have to being of the left.
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I've lost the place in the thread where there are links to examples of the
magazine's Islamophobia.
On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 12:25 PM, Shane Mage via Marxism
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On Jan 7, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Charles Faulkner via Marxism wrote:
aside from the platitudes to decency in protecting free speech, as
richard pointed out, what claim does such a paper have to being left
when
it engages in rather obvious race baiting?
Rejection of religious fundamentalism may or may not be a left position
(depending on what secret definition you have of the meaningless word
left) but to call it race baiting is to solidarize with the
allahu-akbarist Nazis.
am i just preaching to the choir?
to the choir, no doubt, in the synagogue of Satan.
Shane Mage
L'après-vie, c'est une auberge espagnole. L'on n'y trouve que ce qu'on a
apporté.
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Re: [Marxism] Lenin's Tomb on Charlie Hebdo
POSTING RULES NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * On Jan 7, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Charles Faulkner via Marxism wrote: aside from the platitudes to decency in protecting free speech, as richard pointed out, what claim does such a paper have to being left when it engages in rather obvious race baiting? Rejection of religious fundamentalism may or may not be a left position (depending on what secret definition you have of the meaningless word left) but to call it race baiting is to solidarize with the allahu-akbarist Nazis. am i just preaching to the choir? to the choir, no doubt, in the synagogue of Satan. Shane Mage L'après-vie, c'est une auberge espagnole. L'on n'y trouve que ce qu'on a apporté. Bardo Thodol _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
