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I was about to write something similar to what David wrote. One historic dividing line between the revolutionary left and the reformist left was always their attitudes towards elections. For revolutionaries, elections are a means to mobilize and organize the working class and the oppressed. Getting candidates elected, even electing majorities, does not overthrow the capitalist state. In fact, it only makes the danger greater as history has shown. Remember what happened to the people of Chile and the government of Salvador Allende. IMHO, other kinds of militancy are more important right now than participation in the 2020 election. There is no movement for a third party on the left. At this point I plan to support whomever the Greens run. If they did not run anyone, I would support the awful and irrelevant campaign of Jeff Mackler, but either of these choices is just to add one vote of protest against the capitalist state and its two party electoral system. This does not mean that the mass social democratic electoral movement is unimportant. Bernie Sanders and DSA are both important, but fundamentally flawed by their work building the Democratic Party. Working together with these people inside of protest movements, unions and other non-electoral struggles should be tied to criticism of their electoralism from outside of the Democratic Party. Anthony Anthony _________________________________________________________ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: https://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com