Re: [Marxism] SARS-CoV-2: fear versus data (New Scientific Study)

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To the best of my knowledge, Michael is the only person from his tendency that 
forwards material to this list.  I don’t know what the others are thinking.
It is a feature of small group life that members who may not  be confident of 
their groups public stance, may nevertheless lack the confidence to challenge 
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for some time.
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Re: [Marxism] SARS-CoV-2: fear versus data (New Scientific Study)

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On 3/31/20 5:04 AM, RKOB via Marxism wrote:
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> SARS-CoV-2: fear versus data
>
> A new scientific study to appear in: International Journal of
> Antimicrobial Agents
>
> https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0924857920300972
Yes, data is a good thing. From the month-old article:

"As of 2 March 2020, 90 307 patients had tested positive for SARS-CoV-2
worldwide, with 3086 deaths (mortality rate 3.4%)."
Now those 90,000 are over 800,000, the 3000 deaths are 40,000 deaths. Even
more remarkably:

"As of 2 March 2020, among OECD countries, 7476 patients had tested
positive for SARS-CoV-2, with 96 deaths (mortality rate 1.3%)"
Yeh, and now just a few weeks later, that's over 100,000 just in Italy,
nearly 100,000 in Spain, 164,000 in the US, hundreds of thousands more,
11,000 dead just in Italy in conditions that sound like the Black Death,
likewise Spain, etc. That's before we even get to what awaits people
throughout the poor world when it hits deeper.
Michael, really what is the point of this "data" that has become so rapidly
irrelevant? You're in Austria, right? You don't see what is happening just
across the border?Yes, it is very strange to agree with lockdowns carried
out by capitalist governments, even though, in reality, in most cases they
are being dragged into it kicking and screaming. But stranger things have
happened. I declare myself here and now in support of lockdown.
You might say, this would not be necessary if the government had carried
out massive testing (like in S. Korea, Taiwan, Vietnam etc), if it had
millions of test kits ready, if there were plenty of ICU rooms and
ventilators, if there were plenty of hospital beds, isn't so bad that
capitalism has cut health spending for decades and the catastrophe hitting
the US could have been avoided etc, and lockdowns etc would not be needed.
Yes, agreed. But precisely the fact that there ahs not been much testing
and governments have devastated the health sector is the point. The "if"
statements are good political commentary but make no difference to what
needs to be done given the actual situation.
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Re: [Marxism] SARS-CoV-2: fear versus data (New Scientific Study)

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Regarding that Walton billionaire chairing the Stanford board: "Carrie is the granddaughter of Helen 
and Sam Walton, founders of the Walton Family Foundation and Walmart."

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Re: [Marxism] SARS-CoV-2: fear versus data (New Scientific Study)

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Regarding that Walton billionaire on the Stanford board:

"Carrie is the granddaughter of Helen and Sam Walton, founders of the Walton Family Foundation and 
Walmart." --Walton Family Foundation website

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Re: [Marxism] SARS-CoV-2: fear versus data (New Scientific Study)

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On 3/31/20 5:04 AM, RKOB via Marxism wrote:


SARS-CoV-2: fear versus data

A new scientific study to appear in: International Journal of 
Antimicrobial Agents


https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0924857920300972


All of these articles that make the death rate the overriding statistic 
are missing an essential point. Getting sick is a whole order of 
magnitude more devastating than any flu I've heard of. I say that as 
someone who was sick with the flu in 1964, 1968 and 1973.


NY Times, March 27, 2020
I Am Hospitalized With the Coronavirus
As a generally healthy 45-year-old, I didn’t seem like a probable 
Covid-19 candidate.

By Jeremy Egner

Mr. Egner is the television editor for The Times.

On March 12 I got a fever that didn’t go away.

It hovered around 101 or 102 degrees for the next week, accompanied by 
severe fatigue and body aches. My office was already working remotely, 
so I powered through and kept at it, with lots of breaks and naps. I saw 
a doctor via video who said it was probably the flu — possibly the 
coronavirus, he added, but tests were unavailable and the prescription, 
rest and fluids, would be the same regardless.


I naturally worried about the coronavirus, but I didn’t have respiratory 
symptoms. I’m also a 45-year-old, generally healthy nonsmoker (I quit 
years ago) with none of the high-risk conditions listed by the Centers 
for Disease Control and Prevention. I didn’t seem like a probable 
Covid-19 candidate.


Then, about a week in, I began to cough. Taking deep breaths felt as if 
fire were shooting through my lungs. My primary care doctor, with whom I 
also consulted via video, thought it was pneumonia and prescribed a 
course of antibiotics. New York State set up a coronavirus testing site 
an hour from my home. When I called for an appointment, I waited on hold 
for 80 minutes, after which someone took my information and said someone 
else would call me back. No one did.


Eight days after the fever first manifested, I could barely move. My 
wife took me to an urgent care clinic, where I received a chest X-ray 
and confirmation that I had pneumonia. They swabbed me for the 
coronavirus but their lab was overwhelmed, and they didn’t know when 
they would receive any results. I’ve still not heard from them.


I returned home in terrible shape, chest burning and wracked with 
chills, unable to do anything other than shudder under a blanket. My 
primary doctor urged my wife to take me to the E.R., which she did. 
There, they gave me a coronavirus test and another chest X-ray, but 
blood tests suggested that my oxygen and white blood cell levels were 
decent. They sent me home but insisted that should I feel worse, I 
should call them back immediately.


The next day, my temperature spiked to 103.5 degrees. We called the 
E.R., and they told us to come back. That night I was admitted to 
Northern Dutchess Hospital in Rhinebeck, N.Y.


The first night and day were a literal fever-dream of pricks, prods, 
scans and sweat. I floated in and out of consciousness and 
hallucinations as nurses drew blood from all over and gave me shots of 
blood thinner in my stomach, which became a daily routine. Someone took 
another chest X-ray.


On the second day I was more lucid but still felt horrendous, and a 
friendly doctor came in with two bits of news: The coronavirus test I 
took in the E.R. had come back positive and the latest X-ray wasn’t 
good. He showed me the earlier X-ray from the E.R.: Each lung had a 
cloudy patch near the bottom but was otherwise clear. Then he showed me 
the new X-ray. It looked liked some demented handyman had sprayed my 
lungs with insulation.


It was one of the bleakest moments of the ordeal, surpassed only by the 
moment when I wondered, as I hugged my 9-year-old daughter goodbye on 
the way to the hospital, if I would ever hug her again.


My doctor said we’d stay the course and perhaps add another antibiotic 
to the mix. But if things didn’t start to turn around soon, he added, I 
would need to move into the intensive care unit. I lay back, utterly 
dispirited, and turned on the TV. It was on CNN. President Trump was 
telling someone he wanted to reopen the country by Easter.


A few weeks ago I would have rolled my eyes and made a joke about how he 
should socially distance himself on some Mar-a-Lago golf course. Just go 
away and let the adults figure things out.


But my experience has made this pandemic much less abstract, and left me 
in no mood for jokes. I’m writing this from my hospital bed in 
Rhinebeck, on Day 14 of my Covid-pneumonia saga.


It has been miserable in general, with spikes of both awful 

Re: [Marxism] SARS-CoV-2: fear versus data (New Scientific Study)

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On 3/31/20 7:47 AM, MM via Marxism wrote:


 From the website for the “Investments for the Future’ programme”:

“Created in 2010 and allocated €35 billion, the Investments for the Future 
programme (PIA) aims to stimulate employment, boost productivity and increase 
the competitiveness of French businesses by encouraging investment and 
innovation in priority sectors to drive growth. A second programme was launched 
in 2013 with €12 billion, followed by a third in 2017 with €10 billion.”

https://anr.fr/en/investments-for-the-future/investments-for-the-future/


Can't remember if I posted this here. From my FB post:

Jeez, I wonder if there's any connection between 3 of the highest 
profile medical "experts" who line up with Trump on getting back to work 
and them being Stanford professors. Stanford's board chairperson is a 
Walmart billionaire.


University Administration
Stanford University is a trust with corporate powers under the laws of 
the State of California. The university is a tax-exempt entity under 
section 501(c)3 of the Internal Revenue Code.


Board of Trustees
effective December 1, 2019

Felix J. Baker, Co-Founder and Managing Partner, Baker Brothers 
Investments, New York, NY

Mary T. Barra, Chief Executive Officer, General Motors, Detroit, MI
Aneel Bhusri, Co-Founder & CEO, Workday, San Francisco, CA
Michael C. Camuñez, President & CEO, Monarch Global Strategies LLC, Los 
Angeles, CA
Michelle R. Clayman, Managing Partner & Chief Investment Officer, New 
Amsterdam Partners LLC, New York, NY

Bret E. Comolli, Chairman, Asurion Corporation, Atherton, CA
RoAnn Costin, President, Wilderness Point Investments, Cambridge, MA
Dipanjan Deb, CEO & Co-Founder, Francisco Partners, San Francisco, CA
Henry A. Fernandez, Chairman and CEO, MSCI Inc., New York, NY
Angela S. Filo, Co-Founder, Yellow Chair Foundation, Palo Alto, CA
Sakurako D. Fisher, San Francisco, CA
Bradley A. Geier, Co-Managing Partner, Merlone Geier Partners, San Diego, CA
James D. Halper, Senior Advisor, Leonard Green & Partners, Los Angeles, CA
Ronald B. Johnson, Founder & CEO, Enjoy, Menlo Park, CA
Marc E. Jones, Chairman & CEO, Aeris, San Jose, CA
Tonia G. Karr, San Francisco, CA
Sarah H. Ketterer, CEO, Causeway Capital, Los Angeles, CA
Carol C. Lam, Attorney, La Jolla, CA
Christy MacLear, CEO, Pace Experiential/NewCo, New York, NY
Kenneth E. Olivier, Chairman Emeritus, Dodge and Cox, San Francisco, CA
Carrie W. Penner, Chair of the Board, Walton Family Foundation, Aspen, CO
Ruth M. Porat, Chief Financial Officer, Alphabet Inc. and Google Inc., 
Mountain View, CA

Laurene Powell Jobs, Founder/President, Emerson Collective, Palo Alto, CA
Jeffrey S. Raikes, Co-Founder, The Raikes Foundation, Seattle, WA
Mindy B. Rogers, Atherton, CA
Victoria B. Rogers, President, Rose Hills Foundation, Pasadena, CA
Srinija Srinivasan, Palo Alto, CA
Jeffrey E. Stone, Chairman Emeritus and Senior Partner, McDermott Will & 
Emery LLP, Chicago IL
Gene T Sykes, Global Co-Head of M & Chairman, Goldman Sachs Group, 
Inc., Los Angeles, CA

Marc Tessier-Lavigne, President, Stanford University, Stanford, CA
Jerry Yang, AME Cloud Ventures, Palo Alto, CA
Charles D. Young, Chief Operating Officer, Invitation Homes, Dallas, TX

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Re: [Marxism] SARS-CoV-2: fear versus data (New Scientific Study)

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> On Mar 31, 2020, at 5:04 AM, RKOB via Marxism  
> wrote:
> 
> SARS-CoV-2: fear versus data
> 
> A new scientific study to appear in: International Journal of Antimicrobial 
> Agents
> 
> https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0924857920300972 
> 

From the article link:

“This work was supported by the French Government under the ‘Investments for 
the Future’ programme managed by the National Agency for Research, 
Méditerranée-Infection 10-IAHU-03.” 

From the website for the “Investments for the Future’ programme”: 

“Created in 2010 and allocated €35 billion, the Investments for the Future 
programme (PIA) aims to stimulate employment, boost productivity and increase 
the competitiveness of French businesses by encouraging investment and 
innovation in priority sectors to drive growth. A second programme was launched 
in 2013 with €12 billion, followed by a third in 2017 with €10 billion.”

https://anr.fr/en/investments-for-the-future/investments-for-the-future/

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[Marxism] SARS-CoV-2: fear versus data (New Scientific Study)

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SARS-CoV-2: fear versus data

A new scientific study to appear in: International Journal of 
Antimicrobial Agents


https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0924857920300972

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