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1. From Sungur Savran: http://redmed.org/article/turkey-war-two-coups:

The third question we wish to take up is the excitement caused by the image of people swarming on top of tanks, which to the eye uninitiated in the intricacies of Turkish politics may seem as a great democratic reaction on the part of the people. To pose the question in the most blunt manner, this was not “the people” at large. .... We should also look into the composition of the AKP crowd. A sizeable minority of these people were armed. All men, they had come to “assist the police” according to their own statements. In many buildings that had earlier been taken over by the putschist forces, the fight to drive them out was waged by a combination of police officers and these civilians. Their activity is in our opinion akin to the activity of the paramilitary branch of a political party, such as Mussolini’s or Hitler’s armed militia. This has to be situated within the context of a new orientation on the part of Erdoğan. Ever since the Gezi uprising Erdoğan has systematically been building an array of paramilitary forces, ranging from the so-called “Ottoman corps” through reactionary Kurdish forces being prepared to fight the Kurdish movement to hardly disguised relations with notorious figures of the crime world. The coup pushed these paramilitary currents to test themselves unexpectedly early. ... It is true that there was a larger component of the AKP crowd that did not display characteristics of a paramilitary force. But they were totally committed to a programme that is ideologically and politically reactionary through and through. We are of the opinion that masses almost brainwashed by reactionary or fascist movements cannot be characterised as “people” or “the masses” without further specification. The latter can only be invoked when there is an element of spontaneity in the movement one is looking at (irrespective of whether some may belong to different organisations). The AKP masses were tightly disciplined partisans. ... It is also important to note that the outpour of people was, at least partially, a result of imams calling out from mosques to the people to summon them, in the name of religion and fatherland, to the hotspots of action. The unusual experience of imams calling Muslims to the fight must have acted, in all probability, to increase considerably the numbers participating. Again, this shows that the crowds on the squares were not “the people” at large, but the militants of a political party.

2. From Senay Ozden https://www.facebook.com/senay.ozden.54/posts/10154682419589123
July 20 at 6:16pm · Istanbul, Turkey ·

I was in Taksim square last night- though not for too long. Honestly, since Saturday morning I was avoiding going there since many of my friends described the scene as “scary” especially for a woman. They were talking about how “that crowd” could do anything; they could harass women; they could beat us all up; they could pull out their knives at us. (My friends who told me these are all anti-coup people) What I saw in Taksim last night was obviously not a rally for defending a pluralist democracy. It was obviously a religious, conservative crowd; some more religious than others; some more conservative than others. Obviously it was a crowd who would be against gay pride. Obviously it was a group pro- death penalty. Obviously it was a crowd who would think having pre-marital sex is a sin, etc. I can go on with this list. However, demographically it was not a male dominated crowd for sure. What I saw there were families more than anything else. And I saw many many old people. Old women sitting on the ground and praying. I was dressed the way I usually get dressed in summer: Skirt above knee level. Not a single person turned around to make a comment at me. Actually not a single person even stared at me. I did not feel threatened. I felt out of place, but noone did anything to make me feel out of place. As I left Taksim towards the end of the rally, I was on the metro with many of them also going back home. Especially once we were on the metro, outside of that rally environment, I came to realize that these people are the same people that I share the metro with everyday during rush hour. One thing I am sure of is these women are the cleaning ladies who clean our houses every month; these men are our door keepers, these young people are the workers who work at our fathers’ workplaces for minimum wage, these are the people who clean our class rooms at our universities. I am aware many of my friends will rush to accuse me of being “liberal” and also not being “aware of the danger.” Obviously I am also as scared as you are. Obviously I am aware that this “crowd” was not there to celebrate democracy that we believe in though they were carrying banners with the word democracy on it. Obviously I am aware of what Erdoğan has been doing. And obviously I am aware of what type of hegemony is being established through placing big screens in Taksim square, gathering people there, reading Quran in Taksim square, and- more importantly and what is more scary to me- trying to reach a blend of nationalist and religious identities. Obviously I am not the first person who came up with these question and I am also aware this is not something peculiar to Turkey, yet last night I couldn’t stop asking myself the questions at what point did religious identity and class identity converge so strongly? What political mechanisms were at work that succeeded to scare us to such a degree (and I am not saying this fear is totally unfoundational) that we forgot that the people we are afraid of are indeed working class people?

Ahmet Süner: They're not there for democracy? What kind of a categorical judgment is that? pray, what is democracy, if not what these people did with a lot of grace? You can't dare to name it in the context of these poor people. Despite all your sincerity, can't you see that you are repeating a gesture that you appear to critique at the end by admitting the "humanity" of them. This is called bleeding heart liberalism or leftism, which assumes proprietary rights over what will be called democracy or not. While you question your privilege, you do not and perhaps cannot come to the point of questioning your own epistemological privilege. You know you know you know what democracy is. Yet, chi sa? Who ever knows? Life can surprise you and I have been glad to admit surprise for a while now when it comes to questions of democracy in Turkey. It's so much better to be completely honest, like you otherwise are, and admit the pleasant surprise than to go around it, diminishing its import. I hope you'll boldly move into the direction of letting go of the essential definition you think you are in the know
Like · Reply · July 20 at 6:57pm · Edited

Senay Ozden If you paid attention I said "pluralist democracy" and "democracy we believe in". Also, many people at the squares actually refuse to use the word "democracy", they prefer to use the word "freedom". So, referring to your point about epistemology, I am not sure what exactly you are opposing. Like · Reply · 2 · July 20 at 7:03pm · Edited
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