Re: [Marxism] Vote for Jill Stein - deciphered

[Joseph Catron via Marxism]

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On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 1:29 PM, Clay Claiborne via Marxism <
marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote:

While its true that there is no way she can win and accomplish these tasks
> directly, if she can take enough votes away from Clinton, Trump will win
> and carry out these goals for them. That is the real Green Party electoral
> strategy EXPOSED!


Oh, for God's sake. If this is the point in the election cycle when
everyone hauls out their tinfoil-hat conspiracy theories, I much prefer
this one, which has the advantages of making sense, and also probably being
true:

http://wapo.st/1lQeWjf

Clay, surely it's occurred even to you that Trump's awfulness works to the
advantage of Clinton, who would have much less of a sure thing against
anyone but the second most-disliked presidential nominee in US history?

http://53eig.ht/2cLI6B6

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Re: [Marxism] Vote for Jill Stein - deciphered

[Clay Claiborne via Marxism]

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On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 11:53 AM, Anthony Boynton via Marxism 
> wrote:


   What is different about this election? It is not that Trump is a
   racist or
   a white nationalist, or that he is incoherent. Virtually every
   president of
   the USA has been a racist, and not a few have been incoherent.

Nothing to see here folks, he's just another Repub. This is precisely in 
step with Trump's current message. With his prepared teleprompter 
speeches at black people and everything else, his campaign is working 
overtime to convince voters that he is just like past GOP 
candidates like Anthony claims, so that he can trick enough moderates 
into voting for him so that he can put his extreme program into action. 
Once again we find the so-called "Left" in service of the extreme right. 
At a time when they should be exposing and protesting Trump's extreme 
white nationalism, rallying voters to defeat him and preparing the 
masses to resist if he wins, we have claims, on a Marxist list no less, 
that Donald Trump is no more racist than Barack Obama!


   What should be done? We should stoke the fires of crisis to the
   extent that
   we can.

How better to do that than help Trump win?

   The best thing that could happen for the entire world with the
   exception of the very rich in the United States would be the absolute
   destruction of the two party system.

The quickest way to accomplish that is to let Trump win and institute 
fascist rule.



   You can do a little bit to bring this about. Vote for Jill Stein.


Anthony neglected to explain by how voting for Jill Stein could stoke 
the fires of crisis and bring about the absolute destruction of the two 
party system given she will be lucky to get 5% of the vote, so I saw the 
need to connect the dots. While its true that there is no way she can 
win and accomplish these tasks directly, if she can take enough votes 
away from Clinton, Trump will win and carry out these goals for them. 
That is the real Green Party electoral strategy EXPOSED!


Clay


Clay Claiborne, Director
Vietnam: American Holocaust 
Linux Beach Productions
Venice, CA 90291
(310) 581-1536

Read my blogs at the Linux Beach 

   ​Nothing good will every come out of voting for any Democrat or any
   Republican. The "lesser "evil" left advocated voting for Adlai
   Stevenson,
   John Kennedy, Lyndon Baines Johnson, Jimmy Carter, Walter
   Mondale...and on
   to Barack Obama and now Hillary Clinton.​ What happened when the
   Republicans won? Wars, attacks on the working class, the poor and
   minorities. What happened when the Democrats won? The same thing!

   What is different about this election? It is not that Trump is a
   racist or
   a white nationalist, or that he is incoherent. Virtually every
   president of
   the USA has been a racist, and not a few have been incoherent.

   What is different is that the electoral system is in a crisis. The
   Republican Party is split with half of its leaders withholding
   support from
   their candidate who is a virulently racist and incoherent reality show
   star. Meanwhile the Democratic party has a candidate whom any other
   Republican other than Trump could beat without getting out of bed.

   What should be done? We should stoke the fires of crisis to the
   extent that
   we can. The best thing that could happen for the entire world with the
   exception of the very rich int he United States would be the absolute
   destruction of the two party system.

   You can do a little bit to bring this about. Vote for Jill Stein.

   Anthony

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