Re: [Marxism] a thought on Badiou on the Gilets Jaunes
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * Badiou seems to have forgotten that back at the time of the May-June 1968 events similar criticisms were made of both the student movement and of the workers who joined the general strike. After all, university students back then were, among other things, rejecting the proposed education reforms of de Gaulle's government which was trying to "modernize" French higher education. And the workers who went out on general strike had the temerity to go against the leadership of the PCF. Jim Farmelant http://independent.academia.edu/JimFarmelant http://www.foxymath.com Learn or Review Basic Math -- Original Message -- From: Gary MacLennan via Marxism Subject: [Marxism] a thought on Badiou on the Gilets Jaunes Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2019 11:23:13 +1000 POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * I am far from an expert on France or French politics and so was very pleased to see Badiou's thoughts on that movement. But I cannot say I agree with his conclusions. I suspect that his characterisation of the movement is fairly correct when it comes to their reactive nostalgic nature. But to condemn them for not waving the red flag seems to me to be highly sectarian. Whatever the nuances of their politics the fact is that they are being brutalised each weekend by the State and that moves me to sympathy at least. Clearly they are a contradictory formation, but surely if one was in France one would be supporting them at some level? comradely Gary 1 Cup of This (Tonight) Will Burn Your Belly Fat worldhealthlabs.com http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/5cab84a3f2a884a31e3ast02vuc _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: https://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] a thought on Badiou on the Gilets Jaunes
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * > On Apr 7, 2019, at 9:23 PM, Gary MacLennan via Marxism > wrote: > > Clearly they are a contradictory formation, but surely if one was in France > one would be supporting them at some level? This is from December so a bit out of date but I think it still makes clear how inadequate and irresponsible Badiou’s piece is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54yAOKvWRxk _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: https://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] a thought on Badiou on the Gilets Jaunes
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * Every organisation that ever was was a contradictory formation surely. I think for some people no group or movement will ever be pure enough. Cheers, John On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 1:24 PM Gary MacLennan via Marxism < marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote: > POSTING RULES & NOTES > #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. > #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. > #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. > * > > I am far from an expert on France or French politics and so was very > pleased to see Badiou's thoughts on that movement. But I cannot say I > agree with his conclusions. I suspect that his characterisation of the > movement is fairly correct when it comes to their reactive nostalgic > nature. But to condemn them for not waving the red flag seems to me to be > highly sectarian. Whatever the nuances of their politics the fact is that > they are being brutalised each weekend by the State and that moves me to > sympathy at least. > > Clearly they are a contradictory formation, but surely if one was in France > one would be supporting them at some level? > > comradely > > Gary > _ > Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm > Set your options at: > https://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/johnedmundson4%40gmail.com > -- The law locks up the man or woman Who steals the goose from off the common But leaves the greater villain loose Who steals the common from the goose _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: https://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Marxism] a thought on Badiou on the Gilets Jaunes
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * I am far from an expert on France or French politics and so was very pleased to see Badiou's thoughts on that movement. But I cannot say I agree with his conclusions. I suspect that his characterisation of the movement is fairly correct when it comes to their reactive nostalgic nature. But to condemn them for not waving the red flag seems to me to be highly sectarian. Whatever the nuances of their politics the fact is that they are being brutalised each weekend by the State and that moves me to sympathy at least. Clearly they are a contradictory formation, but surely if one was in France one would be supporting them at some level? comradely Gary _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: https://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
