Re: [Marxism] Reasons to Read the Grundrisse (was to read)

2009-08-25 Thread S. Artesian
Oh come on, Shane. You sound like a cranky alter-cocker. We read the Grundrisse for the same reason we read the economic-philosophic manuscripts, the Theories of Surplus Value, the German Ideology, the 18th Brumaire, etc.-- for the same reason we read Beethoven's sketchbooks; because it gives

Re: [Marxism] K2 study guide

2009-08-25 Thread S. Artesian
I guess that means I better read the book. OK, give me a few days. - Original Message - From: Michael Perelman mich...@ecst.csuchico.edu To: David Schanoes sartes...@earthlink.net Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 9:09 PM Subject: Re: [Marxism] K2 study guide On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at

Re: [Marxism] Red Army and rape

2009-08-05 Thread S. Artesian
This is the point where the discussion becomes more than inane; it becomes downright oppressive. We go from arguing that Russia wanted to keep Germany intact and was trying to make a class, or semi-class distinction, between the people and the fascists; to arguing about whether or not rape was

Re: [Marxism] Red Army and rape

2009-08-05 Thread S. Artesian
Geez you are an insufferable moron. A claim was made and utilized, as an excuse, a rationalization for rape that EVERY Red Army soldier had lost a relative to rape or some other barbaric practice. Every. That was the claim. I don't remember you asking for any documentation of the every.

Re: [Marxism] Korea

2009-08-04 Thread S. Artesian
Indeed, Loren was invited to by the workers to speak during the first days of the occupation. Those interested can hear an interview on Pacifica with Loren re events in Korea at: http://www.suziweissman.com - Original Message - From: Bill O'Connor bill...@gmail.com To:

Re: [Marxism] End of short unhappy lifeofengagementwithIranRe:FredFeldman

2009-08-04 Thread S. Artesian
Sartesian: The central issue for me in the previous round of discussions is those notions that: somehow dialectic means that there is positive and negative in everything; Reply: Correct. Well done. Finally you get it. Reply to the reply: Obviously, you're an idiot. Oh yes, positive

Re: [Marxism] Totalitarianism

2009-08-04 Thread S. Artesian
I understand that you think such assessments are overstated. It's one thing to say that. It's another to show it. This is not at all comparable to somebody leaving the door unlocked. This is not some piece of forgetfulness that allows a nightcrawler to sneak into the house. The role played

Re: [Marxism] End of short unhappy life of engagementwithIranRe:FredFeldman

2009-08-03 Thread S. Artesian
One thing you have certainly mastered, never answer a concrete question. The emancipatory, progressive, element in capitalism is not the dual role of the bourgeoisie as Marx imagined, and only imagined, it to be in 1848,[ as a careful examination of the struggle against the ancien regime and

Re: [Marxism] Queen of the birthers

2009-08-01 Thread S. Artesian
Follow the money. Who's bankrolling her? Bet it's the Mellons. - Original Message - From: Louis Proyect l...@panix.com To: sartes...@earthlink.net Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 8:07 AM Subject: [Marxism] Queen of the birthers

Re: [Marxism] Iran: Whose Side Are You On?

2009-07-31 Thread S. Artesian
J does a masterful job of not providing answers to the questions that I asked. Instead we get an explanation of dialectics. But what J offers has nothing to do with dialectics as expounded by Hegel in the Science of Logic, or as demonstrated by Marx in Capital. And what constitutes the core of

Re: [Marxism] Iran: Whose Side are You On?

2009-07-29 Thread S. Artesian
Bottom line: IMO, we oppose the military, economic, financial ventures of the advanced capitalist countries in the less capitalistically developed countries. That doesn't mean we support the governments, the policies, or any particular group in those less capitalistically developed countries.

Re: [Marxism] About that recovery.........

2009-07-29 Thread S. Artesian
From the Fed's Beige Book: Prepared at the Federal Reserve Bank of Boston and based on information collected on or before July 20, 2009. This document summarizes comments received from business and other contacts outside the Federal Reserve and is not a commentary on the views of Federal

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