Re: M-TH: Re: NATO wins, state caps & basics

1999-06-14 Thread J.WALKER, ILL
Hugh Thank you. I apologies for the mistake you are right I clearly did mean 'State Capitalism' as neil had described it in his original message. I don't agree with the Trotskyist position because I am not a Trotskyist. I think that had the USSR followed Trotsky it would have been defeated

Re: M-TH: Re: NATO wins, state caps & basics

1999-06-12 Thread Hugh Rodwell
John W wrote: >I do not agree with the trotskyist position, I think that they were >(and some still are Socialist countries), but it would be wrong to >accuse them of supporting 'State Socialism' without giving some >examples. If this isn't a misprint for "State Capitalism", then there's somethi

Re: M-TH: Re: NATO wins, state caps & basics

1999-06-11 Thread J.WALKER, ILL
> Trotskyism never defended the Stalinist regimes of these degenerated > (USSR), revolutionary but deformed (Yugoslavia, Vietnam, China, Cuba) and > deformed workers states. It characterized them as counter-revolutionary > regimes and the implacable enemies of the world working class. Which has >

M-TH: Re: NATO wins, state caps & basics

1999-06-11 Thread Hugh Rodwell
>Neil throws a turnip: > >>Trotskyisms shameless defense of state capitalism..., >etc > >Shume mishtake shurely- or does anyone else, apart from Trots, indulge in >this befuddled conceit? > >Russ What befuddled conceit? State capitalism or the idea of degenerated and deformed workers states? T