Re: M-TH: China and law of value.

1999-11-24 Thread Dave Bedggood
Simon wrote: I think that where we are parting company is that I am seeing the productive relationship also as a social relationship, and the purpose of revolution to change the social relationship by qualitatively changing the productive relationship, not quantitatively. Yes SOCIAL

Re: M-TH: China and law of value.

1999-11-22 Thread Dave Bedggood
What I am saying is that the value of something is the amount of labour that goes into it. To replace an arbitrary price based on chance and the market with an arbitrary price based on a commissar's rule of thumb does not suspend this rule. Yes but you are looking through the wrong

Re: M-TH: China and law of value.

1999-01-17 Thread Dave Bedggood
Simon writes, Dear all, Stop me if you've heard this before - but surely, all capitalism plans extensively? To argue that an economy is planned does not stop it from being capitalist. And on the suspension of the Law of Value - you can suspend prices, if you like, and pretend that

Re: M-TH: China and law of value.

1999-01-16 Thread George Pennefather
- Original Message - From: Dave Bedggood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 1999 11:45 PM Subject: M-TH: China and law of value. The point about the law of value is that it is a law. Capital tries its best to accumulate by reducing the value of